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Jun-07-15
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  Annie K.: <cg> Thanks. :) Hey, this "minor tweak" has huge potential! I guess the places where the position diagram/link would be most useful may be: the pages of openings (where typical key positions arising from the opening may be discussed), private chessforums (working on a similar theme), and the intro part of game collections! The collector might use the intro to demonstrate the point of a themed collection with some examples that would act as direct game links as well. Of course also live games and tournament pages where similar positions from previous games can be easily referred to this way...

Hmm. Such diagrams may even work for people with game viewers that can't handle the move trick yet? Not sure - but in any case, seeing the potential of this innovation, I guess figuring out enabling it for as many viewers as possible gets more important. Any luck with that? :)

Jun-07-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  Annie K.: Also: maybe these links should show the move, similarly to how links to specific posts show the post number, i.e.:

chessgames.com chessforum (kibitz #22742)

So a game-with-position link could show as

Ponomariov vs L Bruzon, 2011 (move #37. ...)

Gotta stop and do some work now... ;s

Jun-08-15
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  MissScarlett: <About that Fine game, we'll have to look at it and do the right thing.>

Capablanca vs Fine/McMurray/Schwartz/Ste, 1931 That can't be right - it's inconsistent with all the other entries from that simul. The team name is the <Manhattan Chess Club>. My intention is to list the individual members on the respective team pages.

Jun-08-15
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  MissScarlett: You may notice that I submitted a simul game, Alekhine v James M'Grouther, Glasgow, 1938.

I now discover that this is James McGrouther (aka James MacGrouther).

Regarding the format for game submission, does it matter at all, from your end, if the player name is entered as, say, 'Alekhine, Alexander' or 'Alexander Alekhine'? Or how about 'London, UK' or London UK'?

Jun-08-15  Travis Bickle: Can you please close my Lock 'n' Load (Most Interesting Man) Forum? It's C.I.A. rigged... ; P
Jun-08-15
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  chessgames.com: <Regarding the format for game submission, does it matter at all, from your end, if the player name is entered as, say, 'Alekhine, Alexander' or 'Alexander Alekhine'?>

Not in the least.

Now if you typed "Alexander Alexandrovich Alekhine" it might create a new player record, until an admin merges the player records. And then the system gets smart and learns that "Alexander Alexandrovich Alekhine" is another name for player record #10240 and the next time it sees that it will know how to assign it.

<Or how about 'London, UK' or London UK'?> In that case whatever you type there is what the PGN will show. I guess the Bistro has gravitated toward a "London ENG" (or is it London GBR?) for that city, but as long as it's clear what city you are referring to it's fine. One day we might normalize all of the Londons using some algorithm.

Jun-08-15
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  MissScarlett: But for the name case, it does normalise it, doesn't it?

I'm sure it's been addressed before, but for players with the same name, is there any way of differentiating them upon submission?

Jun-08-15
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  chessgames.com: <But for the name case, it does normalise it, doesn't it?>

Yes, if you send in PGN with this:

[White "Smith, John W."]

it will automatically get converted into this:

[White "John W Smith"]

<I'm sure it's been addressed before, but for players with the same name, is there any way of differentiating them upon submission?>

There is only one: the special tags <WhiteChessgamesID> and <BlackChessgamesID>.

For example, if you send us a game where White is Kurt Richter (and not Kurt Paul Otto Joseph Richter) then you can guarantee the correct association by adding this line to your PGN:

[WhiteChessgamesID "135086"]

Jun-09-15
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  Phony Benoni: <chessgames.com> Sorry, but the diagram in today's puzzle still needs to be changed on the home page. It should be:


click for larger view

Jun-09-15
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  chessgames.com: It's just a cache issue. Refresh the page (or the graphic directly http://www.chessgames.com/puzzles/1...) and all is well.
Jun-09-15
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  MissScarlett: The short version of the Marshall Chess Club needs to be Marshall CC, otherwise a search for Capablanca-Marshall turns up the simul game.
Jun-09-15
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  Penguincw: < SEARCH OVER 751,000 CHESS GAMES >

Damn it! I'm late.

Anyway, I don't know if anyone's said this before, but congrats on 750,000+ games. I think at one point you say that was your goal, and you've reached it. Now what? 1 million?

Jun-09-15  TheFocus: One Million or Bust!
Jun-09-15
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  chessgames.com: <Miss Scarlet> Of course, that was an error.

<Penguin> A long time ago I speculated that there have been about 750K serious games of recorded chess and that's about how big a database should be.

The backdrop was that there was an "arms race" in which one database producer would try to top the other with sheer numbers. This led to gathering games from internet blitz servers, games between computers, amateur games, scholastic tournaments, and even worse. Heck, even duplicates were good for their purposes, because it meant "more games."

Chessgames did not want to go down that path.

Maybe 750K was actually a good guess in 2001, but with better technology, we now have an enormous number of new games coming in every year. We'll never reach 1,000,000 by filling in gaps in the pre-internet era, but I think we'll reach it with the new influx of DGT-generated game scores.

Jun-11-15
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  Annie K.: <cg>, could you please add a counter to the http://www.chessgames.com/audio/ directory? I'd just like to be able to check how many audios we have, without counting all, uh, somewhere well over 200, of them every time... ;s

BTW, there will be more coming in soon, courtesy of <WannaBe> and Liping! :)

Jun-12-15  zanzibar: Till you get your counter...

there's 264 of 'em, by my quick count.

Jun-12-15  shivasuri4: Norway Chess 2015 – Stavanger, Norway, June 15 – June 26, 2015. Could we please have a page for this, CG?
Jun-12-15
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  MissScarlett: This game score (http://www.chessgames.com/perl/nph-...) I submitted inadvertently has a text insertion after move 17. It means the game is wrongly attributed as being annotated.
Jun-12-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  Penguincw: Thanks <cg> for the So-Navara page, but how about Norway as well (like <shivasuri4> mentioned above)?

http://norwaychess.com/

While on that topic, are you going to broadcast those games live? :)

There's also one more major tournament: the Capablanca Memorial.

http://torneocapablanca.inder.cu/

(busy time, I know)

Thanks for all your hard work! :)

Jun-12-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  Annie K.: <zanz> thanks. ;)
Jun-12-15  zanzibar: <chessgames> Try this link:

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches...

It got me wondering how there's this:

<LIFETIME RECORD:

Classical games:
Edward G Sergeant tied Reginald Pryce Michell 1 to 1, with 1 draw.

*The figures above are based only on games present in our database which may be incomplete.>

and simultaneously this:

<Sorry, no games at this time.>

Jun-12-15  zanzibar: <chessgames> there's a special category of corrections that, once reviewed, could and should be done automatically.

Let's call it <Date Rounding>, i.e. the tournament's <Round Numbers> can be determined simply by looking the the game's <Date>.

This assumes the tournament is a simple match, Swiss or RR, that doesn't need compound round numbers, and that all games are properly dated, with at most one round/day.

I'm belaboring the point to be explicit, but I think this is fairly familiar stuff.

Now, I have some, let's say, "candidate" tournaments for experimentation:

<
61997 2 12 ? Candidates Match: Aronian - Carlsen (2007)

61998 2 4 ? Candidates Match: Leko - Gurevich (2007)

61999 2 6 ? Candidates Match: Ponomariov - Rublevsky (2007)

62000 2 9 ? Candidates Match: Gelfand - Kasimdzhanov (2007)

62001 2 4 ? Candidates Match: Bacrot - Kamsky (2007)

62002 2 5 ? Candidates Match: Grischuk - Malakhov (2007)

62003 2 6 ? Candidates Match: Polgar - Bareev (2007)

62004 2 9 ? Candidates Match: Shirov - Adams (2007)

62061 2 6 ? Candidates Match: Aronian - Shirov (2007)

62061 2 6 ? Candidates Match: Aronian - Shirov (2007)

62062 2 5 ? Candidates Match: Bareev - Leko (2007)

62063 2 5 ? Candidates Match: Gelfand - Kamsky (2007)

>

Now, not every game is lacking a <Round Number>, but an automatic update could just save time and overwrite them all.

There is another tournament:

<62064 2 9 ? Candidates Match: Grischuk - Rublevsky (2007)>

which shows the way dangers can lurk...

Here there are multiple games on the same day (not allowed for a M-2), and there is also a "non-conforming" round number <R2 TB1> (or <RR2 TB1> using my typical notation).

The software could do additional safeguard checks, which I could elaborate on, but let's start with the quick updates.

Jun-12-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  chessgames.com: <zanzibar> I have some comments about that but I am going to follow Annie K's suggestion and take it over to the CG Librarian chessforum. Look for my reply there.

About the search http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches..., somebody brought that up earlier this year. It's behaving as intended. The logic is "If you are doing a search between two specific players, display the head-to-head matchup statistic, and then show the search results." So if you search for "Fischer vs Spassky, Grob's Attack" you'll get zero games but also see their lifetime record (including the games which were not Grob Attacks.)

Jun-12-15  zanzibar: <chessgames> ok, code-followup posted.

I don't understand the head-to-head search.

I didn't specify anything beyond the two player's names. So the lifetime record should have been displayed.

Or maybe not?

If not, then why not?

(Is there some hidden default? How do I get to see the "1 to 1 with 1 draw" games? )

Jun-12-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  Annie K.: <zanz> your search has a 'year=1927' specification in it.

Here's the search without that:

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches...

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