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Jun-21-15
 | | chessgames.com: About ways to filter the Opening Explorer by rating, year, etc: It's a great idea but also a good technological challenge, and that's the only reason why it's never been implemented. We've created one filter so far, the player-filter, which allows us to offer the Repertoire Explorer. One day I'd love to see the same type of filters work on years and ratings. By the way, who is <M> ? |
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| Jun-21-15 | | crawfb5: <By the way, who is <M>> Mariano Sana
We have a mutual friend (hms123). |
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Jun-21-15
 | | Fusilli: <L>, I mean, <crawfb5> :) ... probably better to refer to me by my nom de guerre here. http://www.condenaststore.com/-sp/F... |
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Jun-21-15
 | | WannaBe: <CG.com> The current advanced search have year delimiter, is it very server CPU intensive, if year is included each half-move search? I know the SQL query is possible, but how much extra load would it be? How about:
1. Limiting it for premium members only.
2. Only have the year option after a certain number of moves? (Like, at the current cut-off point of Opening Explorer for free members) No sense to include Ruy or Sicilian before move 30 anyway, after move 34, it's a technical draw!!! |
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Jun-21-15
 | | Phony Benoni: Just noticed a couple of empty ECO codes: King's Indian, Samisch, Panno Main line (E84) and King's Indian, Orthodox, 7...Nbd7, 8.Re1 (E95). |
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Jun-21-15
 | | chessgames.com: Thanks Phony, I think I understand why and what to do. E84 was not properly defined even though there are 500+ games that fit the definition. I'm sure the KID page is similar. |
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| Jun-22-15 | | zanzibar: <Fusilli> (and d'autres): <SCID> is very easy to install and unpack: http://sourceforge.net/projects/sci... (windows) http://sourceforge.net/projects/sci... (mac) Then I'd recommend <MillBase> https://www.dropbox.com/s/snheiyyxq... (direct download) http://katar.weebly.com/blog/millba... (blog page) <MillBase> involves 7-zip if you don't have it: http://www.7-zip.org/a/7z920.exe (windows only)
<MillBase> is ~135 Mb download, expanding to ~210 Mb SCID db's. <SCID>'s download is only ~15Mb, and that includes Stockfish and various Opening Books. * * * * *
If you do try it (and I 2nd <crawfb5>'s recommendation, unsurprizingly), the <Opening Tree> feature is just what you want. It will tell you Avg Year of different branches, etc. And you can always just copy a slice by years into the clipboard (via a filter search) and run the Tree analysis on that. The nice feature here is you can do any kind of filtering, and then redo the analysis (e.g. only Soviet ch games from 1955-1965, etc.) I also like the <Book Window> feature - standard stuff showing you leading variations with percentages. Etc., etc. |
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Jun-22-15
 | | Domdaniel: One other long-standing database offers a choice between pre- and post-1991 game selections. Such an option might only go a little way towards the kind of filtering that Fusilli spoke about, but it'd be something. |
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Jun-22-15
 | | chessgames.com: <The current advanced search have year delimiter, is it very server CPU intensive, if year is included each half-move search?> No not at all, the games are well indexed on year. But the advanced search and the Opening Explorer are two different animals. It's one thing to ask for "games after 2000" but a much more complex thing to ask "What moves were played in this position, and how well did they fare, in games after 2000?" <I know the SQL query is possible, but how much extra load would it be?> It's hard to say, but it's out of the question to provide an inefficient solution, even if it's restricted to premium members. It has to be done right or not at all. And what is "doing it right"? It's the classic tradeoff between storage space and speed. The Opening Explorer is a fine example: it's accomplished with a gigantic table called PositionGame which keeps track of which positions occurred in which games. Current count = 23,584,930 rows. To make the Repertoire Explorer I added two redundant fields to PositionGame: pid_white and pid_black. (They are redundant in the sense that the information could be looked up by the game ID which is already in the table, but it works faster if the data are duplicated.) That doesn't sound like a big deal, but when you add two tiny fields to 23 million rows, and index each field two different ways, it turns into a monster. To keep things under control I limited the Repertoire Explorer to "notable" players. So in short, it's not that I don't know how to do it, it's just that it would require a lot of testing and tweaking. In the best case scenario I'd end up maintaining enormous tables to cater to this kind of search. Some day I'll do that experiment, and hope to report back with good news. |
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Jun-23-15
 | | MissScarlett: How about uploading a Confederate flag to the avatar menu? I wish to express solidarity with a racially persecuted minority. |
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| Jun-23-15 | | Alien Math: <MissScarlett> (3) If you know how to make GIF graphics, you can submit a custom avatar for your account. Just email a 48x48 pixel GIF (not animated) to chess@chessgames.com. We will add it to the set of avatars as soon as possible. One custom avatar per account, please. From Avatar Area |
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Jun-23-15
 | | WannaBe: <Chessgames.com> Thank you for the explanation. I now have a better picture of the backend operations. =) |
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| Jun-23-15 | | gauer: <Fusilli>: Not sure whether the "find similar" (which sorts approximately chronologically, up to the year - not reverse chronologically - and doesn't report all the node choices that had been tested in games; only the list of games) output changes from a certain common node of 2 or more distinct gid games, but Games Like Hampyuk vs Karpov, 1965 (for some lines after Na5) or Games Like B Savchenko vs V Sanal, 2015 (for some lines after Nb8) might be a type of http://www.chessgames.com/perl/addn... that a kibitzer could refer to at certain nodes, and then report a score (like +20-18=61) or recent popularity of a line there. Perhaps that's one way around your problem, if you're comfortable using the opening explorer notes. It doesn't seem, though, that there is any easy way to share whatever contents of your note to your Favorites List or export them to a notes files (for windows or Mac notes apps) as an openings skeleton tree in some sort of RAV-like format. |
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Jun-23-15
 | | chessgames.com: <gauer> The "Find Similar Games" feature is on the way out, to be replaced with a newer better handling. You can see a demo here: http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches... |
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| Jun-24-15 | | zanzibar: I see the job for the most interesting man in the world is available: http://www.chessgames.com/av/face_2... |
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Jun-24-15
 | | Tabanus: <I am hoping that <CG> can continue to be my all-purpose resource.> To achieve that, it may better to upload to it rather than download from it. Unus pro omnibus, omnes pro uno. |
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Jun-24-15
 | | WannaBe: <CG.com> Interesting thing I found: Home page, doing a game/player search, on the drop down I chose 'Anand', and left hand side I specified 'Black'. The search took me to his players page with all games, but I only want to see a list of the games where Anand played black. At the bottom of game list, there are choices, but it have "White wins", "Black wins" "Draws", "Anand Wins", "Anand Loses". Did something got broken in the system? |
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Jun-25-15
 | | FSR: <chessgames.com> Did you overlook that Walter Browne just died? http://www.vegaschessfestival.com/2... Surely he ought to be POTD? |
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Jun-25-15
 | | WannaBe: <FSR> Man, go easy there, I understand that in the age of internet that when Miley Cyrus drops her pants are know in seconds, but this is not the case. CG probably had puzzle, player, game of the day scheduled (days) ahead of time. Just a few weeks ago, we had another: Nigel Short, had a birthday, and it wasn't player of the day. And Nigel's still alive, competed for the World Championship, not like he kick'd the bucket 6 hours ago. Chill, give CG.com to have time with a proper in-memorium. |
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Jun-25-15
 | | chessgames.com: <Walter Browne just died?> Oh that's awful, I hadn't heard the news until just now. Of course we should honor him today. |
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Jun-25-15
 | | chessgames.com: <The search took me to his players page with all games, but I only want to see a list of the games where Anand played black.> I'm sorry I'll have to look into that. The only way I was able to get the search to work was to add an extraneous clause, like "year>1970", e.g. http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches... There's a feature that automatically redirects people to a player page when they do a "null search" on a player, but if you chose his color then it's not a null-search. |
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| Jun-25-15 | | Abdel Irada: <MissScarlett: How about uploading a Confederate flag to the avatar menu? I wish to express solidarity with a racially persecuted minority.> If you use the Confederate flag as an avatar, I will immediately ignore you and encourage everyone who doesn't approve of racism, slavery and treason to do the same. Of course you have the right to use whatever symbol you like. You can use the flag of the Third Reich if you like. But the rest of us have the right to express our disapproval of such symbols, and I suspect I'm not the only one who will do so. ∞ |
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| Jun-25-15 | | Jim Bartle: <How about uploading a Confederate flag to the avatar menu? I wish to express solidarity with a racially persecuted minority.> How does the Confederate flag support a racially-persecuted minority? |
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| Jun-25-15 | | Abdel Irada: <How does the Confederate flag support a racially-persecuted minority?> In the same way that the crucifix represents a religiously persecuted minority in the United States, or the crescent moon in Turkey. ∞ |
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Jun-25-15
 | | chessgames.com: <You can use the flag of the Third Reich if you like.> No, he can't. There are some lines that can't be crossed. This is exactly why we don't have an upload-avatar feature. We want some editorial control over what people use. We've had a few avatars banned in the past. Albert Artidiello (a child of Cuban refugees) was deeply upset with somebody's choice of Fidel Castro. <How about uploading a Confederate flag to the avatar menu?> Miss Scarlet, it's sometimes hard to tell if you are serious. In any case, given the recent political hullabaloo on that very topic, I'd appreciate it if you don't poke the hornet's nest. |
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