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Jan-22-10
 | | Domdaniel: <Annie> I used to visit Harry Harrison's apartment when I was 18. He lived near Dublin and I knew his kids ... I still have a signed first edition of 'Great Balls of Fire: Sex and Science Fiction'. Mike - as in M. John - is a whole nother Harrison. English, wrote some good stuff in the late 60s for New Worlds, then vanished into eccentric 'mainstream' fiction. Light was his SF comeback, and is truly astonishing. I've just reread it. |
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Jan-22-10
 | | Domdaniel: <tech> I've given some thought to this. It is simply beyond comprehension that you - or indeed anyone - could regard your utterances as humorous. This goes way beyond 'cultural differences' or 'highbrow/lowbrow' or whatever. This is perverse. I've decided you're a Situationist. |
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Jan-22-10
 | | Domdaniel: <Annie> There are scenes in Douglas Adams' Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy -- such as a meeting with a planet-builder who dimly recalls being commissioned to 'do' Earth, and having rows with the client about fjord placement etc -- which featured years earlier in 'Dimension of Miracles' by Robert Sheckley. So I know what you mean re Sawyer. |
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| Jan-22-10 | | technical draw: Hey, <Dom> You stick a post to me between two posts to <Annie> and I'M the situationist? You're lucky I don't know what that means. |
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Jan-22-10
 | | Annie K.: I don't know what a "situationist" is either, but then I also don't know how anybody could consider <TD>'s stuff humorous, so that evens things out. Well, I'm going to claim it does, anyway. :p Re.: <Harry Harrison> OK, now I'm... not <impressed>, exactly (I don't like the "fannish" mindset, in general), but perhaps, just perhaps, slightly envious. ;p Re.: <Adams/Sheckley> Yup, we discussed DoM a few pages back here as I recall. :) But, in defense of Adams, "Hitchhiker" is more a parody of SF, than actual SF, which makes the "borrowing" in it somewhat more acceptable. Sawyer, sadly, lacks even that excuse. |
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Jan-22-10
 | | Domdaniel: <Annie> I dislike the fan mindset too. This has caused me to retreat from meeting people even when I had a good reason, and I never *ask* for autographs. But, hey -- I was young, it was social ... <tech> It's OK. I don't believe anyone knows what a Situationist is, especially the Situationists themselves. If they exist. |
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Jan-22-10
 | | Domdaniel: Meanwhile, back at Motel Frogspawn ... somebody posted a pic of what my opponents might look like. This is closer: http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/18001... |
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| Jan-22-10 | | technical draw: That's a good photo gag there <Dom>. Just wait, in about 6 to 8 months, when nobody remembers, I'll steal it. |
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Jan-22-10
 | | Annie K.: <Dom> OK, your youthful indiscretions are forgiven . ;) I will admit to actually having asked for an autograph once myself in my youth... but I have an excuse too. :D I was going to attend a speech by Orson Scott Card at the Israeli SF Convention of 2003, and upon hearing the plan, two friends of mine asked me to get books autographed for <them>. So I took with me 3 books to be autographed... because I knew my friends would feel bad about accepting an autographed book for themselves if they knew I didn't keep one for myself, yes, that's it. ;p Card gave me a funny look at first when I said I would like 3 books autographed, but when I explained I wanted them with 3 different names, he smiled and added a (different) nice comment to each one. Heh. :) |
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| Jan-22-10 | | Red October: Is a situationist something like the equivalent of being a Stauntonist in the 21st Century ? |
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Jan-22-10
 | | Domdaniel: <Red> Yes. Exactly. It's uncanny, the precision with which you nail things down. <tech> If my <Red> friend here ever deigns to give basic funniosity lessons, sign up fast. |
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| Jan-22-10 | | technical draw: Um, <Dom>, you're talking to a threepeat funniest kibitzer award winner. (threepeat=three in a row). Well, anyway, March 31 will probably be my last joke day as I will be moving on. But I'll leave my proxy vote for OD/RO... |
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Jan-22-10
 | | Domdaniel: Maybe this humour lark is culturally specific after all. Without bringing names into it, I think the most humorous kibitzers here are four women and two Dutchmen. Hang on, two of the women are the same person ... I'll have to jiggle the numbers ... It sounds like a Peter Greenaway film: <Three-and-a-half Women and Two Dutchmen> Released in the southern hemisphere as <Three-and-a-half Women, some Dutchies, and a hatful of Aussies> |
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Jan-22-10
 | | OhioChessFan: <Meanwhile, back at Motel Frogspawn ... somebody posted a pic of what my opponents might look like. This is closer: > Was that upon seeing you at the table in your Morphy shirt or after your exchange sac? |
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Jan-22-10
 | | OhioChessFan: I wouldn't dream of asking anyone for an autograph. Unless maybe it was John Fogerty. Probably not. |
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Jan-22-10
 | | Domdaniel: Chessic note: I've uploaded my loss to Keogh (2010) and a game won by Hilary Healy at the 1976 olympiad in Israel. Give 'em a few days to appear. Since I have a collection of chess magazines from several countries dating back to about 1950, I'm planning to exhume some of their games for posterity. |
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| Jan-22-10 | | technical draw: <Ohio> If you already have Elvis' autograph you don't need any other. |
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Jan-22-10
 | | Domdaniel: <Ohio> I'm reserving the Morphy shirt for summer. Somebody told me we had one in 1995, but I missed it. |
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Jan-22-10
 | | Domdaniel: <Ohio> I spent a couple of years interviewing movie stars on a weekly basis. Not *all* household names, and sometimes just a press conference or a group interview, but it was always possible to ask the star to scribble their name on a photo. I never did, and I looked loftily down my nose at those fellow hacks who did. Until, after two years or so, one such hack showed me a list of his acquisitions along with their current market values. Tom Cruise, Nicole Kidman, Mel Gibson, Dustin Hoffman, Robin Williams, and so on. The bottom line ran into thousands of $$ or ££. I'd 'met' the same people and had nothing to show for it. I still looked down my nose at him, of course. But it gets harder. Almost like refusing a signature on a check. Sorry, cheque. 'Check' is a chess word, innit? |
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| Jan-22-10 | | Red October: Summer is gone since 1967... |
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Jan-22-10
 | | Domdaniel: Jacques Derrida - or somebody from the deconstruction gang - called it 'the metaphysics of presence' ... the magical feeling we get from objects associated with famous people. I try to resist it. I admit I once put in a bid for a book from Nimzowitsch's personal library, but I failed to get it. And I have 5 or 6 signed books, mostly given to me as gifts. But I don't give them special treatment or check their market prices or anything -- apart from the Pynchon one. If it turns out to be real it's probably worth more than my house. |
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Jan-22-10
 | | Domdaniel: Come to think of it, there's even a market in signed chess scoresheets. I almost never remember to get my opponent's signature ... |
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Jan-22-10
 | | OhioChessFan: <Until, after two years or so, one such hack showed me a list of his acquisitions along with their current market values. Tom Cruise, Nicole Kidman, Mel Gibson, Dustin Hoffman, Robin Williams, and so on. The bottom line ran into thousands of $$ or ££. I'd 'met' the same people and had nothing to show for it. > Without getting too metaphysical about it, the people I know who'd do that for money never seem to get ahead in money terms. And what you have is your self respect for not trying to profit off of someone else's kindness. |
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Jan-22-10
 | | Domdaniel: <Ohio> Thanks. I can console myself with the thought that once, maybe, just maybe, back when they were happily married, Tom and Nic went back to their suite and said "That one with the funny glasses who didn't ask us for anything was kinda nice, wasn't he, hon?" ... hmmm. I guess it works on the karmic level. Without getting too metaphysical about it. |
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Jan-22-10
 | | Annie K.: <Dom: <Maybe this humour lark is culturally specific after all. Without bringing names into it, I think the most humorous kibitzers here are four women and two Dutchmen.>> Waitaminit there, gender is considered a culture these days? :s <OhioChessFan: <Without getting too metaphysical about it, the people I know who'd do that for money never seem to get ahead in money terms. And what you have is your self respect for not trying to profit off of someone else's kindness.>> Well said. :) |
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