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Dec-19-10
 | | Domdaniel: <dak> Been a long wait since E J Diemer vs NN, 1949, if you recall that one ... ... still room to grab a few more this year, no? |
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Dec-19-10
 | | Domdaniel: <Annie> - <obsessive perversity>
Why, that's the nicest thing anyone has said about me all year. ;) |
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Dec-19-10 | | dakgootje: Certainly has! I shall try for more but the luck-factor [namely whether you are paying attention] appears to be fairly big this year. Come to think of it, I think this is only the second year I really compete in the clue hunt.. [look annie, no complaint yet, but certainly a custom-made excuse for low solve-count!] Perhaps I will be incredibly lucky and even get to the limit of 5 this year! ;) We can dream.. speaking of dreaming,
♘! |
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Dec-19-10
 | | Domdaniel: OK, after two clues in just over an hour the randomizer may rest for a bit. Not that it would, if it were random... So I'll go to bed early. Congrats again <dak>, g♘ <Annie> ... if another one turns up I expect to see your name on it. |
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Dec-19-10
 | | Domdaniel: Before I go -- I think dear old CG is getting a tad confused. dak's clue features yet another slightly screwed-up explanation ... something about fingers "two rows" too low? I make it three. |
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Dec-19-10
 | | Annie K.: <I make it three.>
Yeah... I was just wondering what happened to ceegee that they can't even count to 3 this year. ;s Luckily, this time they only screwed up the explanation, not the clue. :p <dakkie: <Gonna take me at least 11 months to prepare ;)>> Correct. Must not rush things. ;)
<Dom: <There's a similar, but easier, quiz every week in The Guardian. I usually get a phone call from my brother to ask how many I got right, and then he refuses to tell me his score.>> I missed that one. Congrats, that's a good sign!
<Dom: <<Annie> - <obsessive perversity> Why, that's the nicest thing anyone has said about me all year.;)> >
Yes, it was meant that way, sweet. :) I know your value system. ;) ♘ <dakkie>! :)
<Dom>, I thought you sed no more sleep till the solstice? ;) Heh. ♘e6! :) |
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Dec-19-10
 | | Domdaniel: < I thought you sed no more sleep till the solstice?> I did, didn'I?
Clearly *at least* one of my statements was false.
But I *am* gonna try going to bed (warm) with a book (warm-ish, maybe) ... ♘e6!!  |
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Dec-19-10
 | | Domdaniel: This habit of lingering after I've gone reminds me of a John Cooper Clarke line ... <"Like the scent of last year's cabbage
and the ghost of last year's wife...">
Heh. ♘e♘ |
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Dec-19-10 | | MostlyAverageJoe: <Domdaniel: ... got any custom search engines for quizzes with real prizes?> For example? I never really looked for quizzes much... |
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Dec-19-10
 | | Annie K.: "I'll just wait a bit to see if anyone replied to my last posts, and maybe there'll be a new clue meanwhile... just a bit..." ;) Enjoy your book. :)
G'♘! |
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Dec-19-10 | | MostlyAverageJoe: <Domdaniel: ... I see you believe others have developed MAJ-estic software. No need to name suspects, obviously - and there's nothing wrong with it anyway - but is that suspicion based on average solution times, or something more?> I only mentioned zipfile downloads -- but from there to implementing specialized searches (that Chessbase cannot do) is a short path. Doing these efficiently is a different story -- my first implementations took several minutes to complete the full scans. |
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Dec-20-10
 | | Domdaniel: <MAJ> (a) No, I didn't have any quizzes in mind - suitable ones are perhaps not so common. I know people make a living as professional competition entrants, but the main element seems to be the art of composing promotional verses. Hmmm. Maybe I should look into that sometime.
(b) A key element here seems to be a search that produces a clickable link to a CG gid. In the past, I used Chessbase's somewhat better search routines, but obviously had to return here and type in the names if I found anything. (c) I suppose very few clues are now beyond the reach of google. Even that Borges poem I got last year, which was different from either of the official translated versions, and was recognizable because I'd also read it in Spanish -- I suspect it wouldn't survive long now, using online translation+search ... (d) CG are going to have to work harder if they want not-easily-googled cryptic clues. But maybe they don't. (e) And they *do* seem a little accident-prone just now. The Anastasia game as Puzzle of the day? Odd. The confusion between 'two' and 'three' lines of keyboard in the clue <dakgootje> solved? Plus earlier gooferies. |
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Dec-20-10
 | | Domdaniel: <Annie> G'day. Ra knows what kinds of hours you keep, but ain't ya supposed to be a couple of hours *ahead* of me? Yes, dear, I know it's not really measurable in hours. Is this the part of the day when you earn your shekels by turning cherubim into kerubok? |
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Dec-20-10 | | dakgootje: Well, for instance clues 42 and 45 are still fairly unsolvable with google. Used a number of What-song-is-this sites and programs for 42 but none of them got close. Equally, the still from the movie Arthur [#3] is as of yet unfindable if you don't know the film or actors :P However, I suppose general knowledge will only help for the quickly-solved clues where google is slower and the very-hard ones where google is clueless.. Anything in between and it's anybody's game. There indeed are a remarkable amount of goofs this year though. |
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Dec-20-10
 | | Domdaniel: <Dak> Bill Wall has a site listing chess in movies, which has Arthur, plus character names. I recognized it anyway, tried Hobson, looked at Bach, saw 80 games and went "Nah, too early for this". Failing, idiotically, to see that just one of 'em was by A.Bach. As for Koshy, aargh. RL picked a bad time to distract me. Sometimes I ... hate is too strong a word ... sometimes I am *not fond of* RL. |
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Dec-20-10 | | dakgootje: hehehe
I actually spend a fair amount of time on Koshy; e.g. Kosintseva vs Kosintseva, but expected names like Koshy and derivatives thereof were in the DB so spend a fair amount of time on that. Besides that, I played with the idea the clue might be a red herring and that the actual clue would be the date itself; this because it would be 10/11/12 in the completely illogical dd/yy/mm notation. So that clouded my eyes for quite some time. I had actually checked very quickly for cryptograms but then the self-censor came with "It is a future GOTD-title, cryptograms are way too obscure for that." Otherwise I might've found the clue.. an hour earlier? Got to find the menu where I can uncheck my second-thoughts - this has happened before that I thought "Hold on, realistically they would never mean this". Live and learn. I'll have a look for the site -- had used a wikipedia-list but that was apparently fairly incomplete. |
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Dec-20-10 | | mack: <As for Koshy, aargh.> I spent half an hour on this one and really should have got it. Pretty basic stuff, but I was distracted by the RL Koshy (Varugeese Koshy) and the relevance of 10 December 2011 being CG's tenth birthday. |
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Dec-20-10 | | dakgootje: Ahhhh of course, that was the relevance of 10 december! Could only come up with the Nobel Prize but that did not feel right. Also, you completely forgot about the 3 persons called Koshnitsky :P Quite tricky clue all in all. |
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Dec-20-10 | | mack: <Could only come up with the Nobel Prize> Yeah, went down that path too. |
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Dec-20-10
 | | Domdaniel: <mack> Yeah, CG's 10th was the obvious one -- I spent a few mins on, eg, a computer called <NowX>, various Dutchmen called <ten-something>, Tennison, Diez, Dix ... The proximity of Nakamura's birthday (9 Dec) and Anand's (11th) might also have distracted me. Before the world did. Sigh.
Part of me -- well, most of me -- was hoping "this'll be really devious and cryptic, all the obvious attacks will fail, and it'll still be here in a couple of hours when I return with the advantage of having it percolated through my infinitely lateral subconscious mind". No go, though. |
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Dec-20-10 | | dakgootje: <The proximity of Nakamura's birthday (9 Dec) and Anand's (11th) might also have distracted me.> The former would've distracted you even more if you had known there was a city called Nakamura in the <Kochi> prefecture. Then you might've done some stupid things. Like scrolling through his games looking for any games he played in Japan. |
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Dec-20-10
 | | Domdaniel: <dak, mack> That self-censor thing? It's called *intelligence*. Sometimes some innocent blurts something out in the kib caff, but here we're just too smart for our own good. btw, I'd always assumed that one of the unwritten rules of the klu hunt was that games by members -- the immortal efforts of McCarthy, Daniels et al -- would not feature as solutions. Dunno *why* I thought that. Unfair advantage, maybe. Anyhoo, of course Dylan McClain features in mack's collection of games by CG members ... but you knew that. I'll go play *Idiot Wind* again now. |
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Dec-20-10 | | mack: <... but you knew that.> Piss off |
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Dec-20-10
 | | Domdaniel: <Then you might've done some stupid things. Like scrolling through his games looking for any games he played in Japan.> Yep. I did.
<Piss off>
That too. |
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Dec-20-10
 | | SwitchingQuylthulg: <Domdaniel: I'd always assumed that one of the unwritten rules of the klu hunt was that games by members -- the immortal efforts of McCarthy, Daniels et al -- would not feature as solutions. Dunno *why* I thought that. Unfair advantage, maybe.> They had a <tpstar> game back in '08, didn't they? (T Palmer vs R Present, 1986, which later also made GotD) And in fact, the very first clue game ever (Koltanowski vs M Stobbe, 1994) was apparently played by <endocore>. |
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