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Aug-14-11
 | | Domdaniel: This site *is* kingdom daniel.
I'm just a space man. |
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Aug-14-11
 | | Domdaniel: <Ohio> 'G-d' is probably just one of my 18th century affectations. <"By G-d", he said, "this is impossible" -- he would sometimes swear tolerably round oaths ...> OK, that's Aubrey on Hobbes, making it more 17th century, but the principle holds. *Our* society prefers to disguise secular 'swearing'. I sometimes wonder if we choose the words with sufficient care. Like in that piece by Leonard Cohen that goes "don't ever f-word with me, or I will k--l you". Where f-word is spelled out but k-word isn't. Keel? |
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Aug-14-11
 | | Domdaniel: <dak> - <I promise I do not have the intention of piercing you with some rotary cutting instrument, sir!> Is that awl? |
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Aug-15-11
 | | Domdaniel: "I've 'ad the Filth, and I've 'ad the Firm ..."
This line of dialog from the 1970 Roeg & Cammell masterpiece 'Performance' can be loosely translated as "I have already been visited by both the police and the mob". *The Filth* (pronounced 'filf') was perhaps the world's finest generic slang term for 'police' -- better than cops, bobbies, flics, Old Bill, pigs, rozzers, the Man, etc. Or, as an old friend of mine used to say, he was 'somewhat constrained in his movements due to the attention of Aged William'. And yet in 2011 the yoof of England refer to the police as 'the feds'. And it's not short for 'Federales': it's a direct lift from American 'urban' patois. Which leaves only one burning question on the matter of Laura Norder: should the song "Please Police Me" be sung Beatles-style (Won't you puh-lease puh-lease me?) or in the manner of Bert Hump ("Please police me, let me go ..."). Young folk won't remember Bert Hump, no relation to Ms Koneru, a crooner who poshed-up his monicker to Engelbert Humperdink. But all sorts of people have 'covered' his hit song. The filth. That's what Law and Ordure gets you, I suppose. Mr Pynchon's unprintable punk lyric "I'm a Cop" is also worth a nod ... "Eff you mister/ eff your sister/ eff your mother/ eff your brother/ eff your Pop/ I'm a cop" is the cleaned-up version. That's awl for now. If I'm boring you, squeal in pain. Or utter a minced oath, by golly, by gosh, by g-d. |
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Aug-15-11
 | | WannaBe: Dear <Domdaniel>
Here is an attempt, by me, to see if you can find the solution (2 possible answers) 20th century traveler figure meets 26th century traitors. |
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Aug-16-11
 | | jessicafischerqueen: Good points over on the <Travesty v Travesty> game page. I'm done there for now, but as I said in my last post there, you hit the nail on the head with your last comment. No getting around it, that's true what you said.
Anyways, interesting as always. |
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Aug-16-11
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <Dom> interesting. Is today's Pommie yute aware that American doesn't have a "Federal Police Force"? They know the FBI isn't a "police force" like the Bobbles over in Blight eh? I guess they must know this since they got the slang from American TV cop shows. So they'd be commenting on the fact that Britain's police force is a federal organization? In Canada as you also probably know there is a federal police force, but there are also a few provincial police forces, and, horror of horrors, the real "filth"- Municipal Police forces. Notably, the Toronto Police Force is one of the most violent, corrupt, and "filthy" organizations I've ever had the misfortune to witness first hand. |
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Aug-16-11
 | | Domdaniel: <Jess> Oddly enough, my response to the police question is very similar to my attitude to draws in chess. One hears similar complaints from around the world (at least from countries where complaining is allowed) -- LAPD, London Met, Flics in Paris, the old RUC in Belfast ... and people keep thinking the problems are local, eg 'they're racist, they're anti-youth, sectarian' ... whatever. They may well be all these things. They may also be the valiant protectors of the property of the propertied class, and the heroic apprehenders of criminal nasties. But - my point - is that certain things are built into the culture of police forces around the world. A closed us/them paramilitaristic culture. If violence is freelly sanctioned, it tends to get used. Behaviour patterns are just 'cop DNA'. Just like agreed draws emerge from chess DNA.
Excuse me while I petition Mr Dawkins for a fee. |
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Aug-16-11
 | | Domdaniel: <Wannabe> Thanks. I'm, uh, working on it ... Meaning - if it was a real clue in a real comp, somebody else would have zipped past me in the first minute, leaving everyone else going "Eh? Whazzat? Oh. Duh." Now, lemme think ... what was the 26th century famous for? The 26th 'century' scored by somebody in a sport like cricket where scores come in tons? What century is this in China? Israel? Yucatan?
A-googling we shall go ... |
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Aug-16-11
 | | Domdaniel: <The WannaBe Conundrum>
OK, then, howabout: Alekhine vs Ratnovsky / Rosenberg, 1928 Alekhine wrote Nazi propaganda, the Rosenbergs were executed by the US in 1953 for spying, and a rat is a rat ... which covers the 'traitor' bit. I can twist it round to various centuries with some contortions of logic ... Screen didn't light up and say 'jackpot' yet. Hmmm ... "In the Year 2525" - sung by Zager and Evans - that's the 26th century, but did Larry (or Captain) Evans ever play a Zager? Nope. |
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| Aug-16-11 | | mworld: 26th century sounds like a Buck Rogers connection. I'll let someone else do all the oogling though. |
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Aug-16-11
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <Dom> yes, the "inevitable consequence of the structure of police culture." Shouldn't you be asking Roland Barthes for a fee?
There are local differences though, at least within Canada. Take the local RCMP detachment in my family's small farm village. Please.
No seriously I actually know the officers personally at this branch, to the extent that I was able to get them to give me details about my Police "sheet" over the telephone from Korea. They are not allowed to do this, but the Constable not only recognized my voice, he remembered the details of when I got my last Police record check in person last year. Contrast this with the rather frosty attitude of the nameless faceless Vancouver police force. But there are still "small towns" in Canada where there's almost no crime, and the local police- who are always federal in these locations- are not only trusted, they are considered a friend to the community. Could this be an "inevitable consequence of the structure of small town culture?" You may be pleased, or horrified, to learn that I've taken to using your phrase and telling everyone I coined it. Im fact I'm thinking of copyrighting it, after consultation with my laywer <hms123>. I hope that's ok. |
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| Aug-16-11 | | hms123: <jess> It's fine to use that phrase (or any other) as your own and as freely as you wish. The only exceptions are phrases that include the term <maths>. Those are all mine. |
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Aug-16-11
 | | Domdaniel: <Jess> That's fine, and better than fine (to quote Federal Agent Clarice Starling, after she shacked up with a mass murderer). The truth is true, and often beautiful. Either way nobody owns it. I may well bequeath you - one day - my entire oeuvre of bon mots. So you can tell folk that you're directly descended from Bobby Fischer, Oscar Wilde, and Myles na Gopaleen. I got a small town policeman to authorize my passport application once, declaring that he knew me to be an upstanding member of the community. He'd never clapped eyes on me before. However, he knew my aunt and I'd been out drinking with his daughter, and these are what counts in small communities. I'd almost go and live in one again. Not being able to drive is a big disadvantage, though, so I'll stick to my inner-city ways until some mindless youth burns me out. |
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Aug-16-11
 | | OhioChessFan: My first take was 20th century traveler = Blues Traveler and 26th century traitors is a sci fi reference. I've been thinking........what if I put up the prizes for my clues? And what if other people, cough cough, did the same? |
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Aug-16-11
 | | OhioChessFan: Robert E Lee and his horse Traveller were a touch early for the 20th century, but as a Californian, <wannabe> is quite aware the horse mascot of USC is named Traveler. So, is there a player named USC? |
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| Aug-16-11 | | mworld: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0533112/
might have missed by a century, but pretty close. |
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Aug-17-11
 | | WannaBe: My dear friends, You cannot imagine the grin, and the laughters that I enjoy; while reading them posts.... Yes, the facts, that only 'not' is <THE> queen herself involved, but the <KING> hisself is also involved. Interestig, "I must say Mr Spock,..." |
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Aug-18-11
 | | Domdaniel: Geurgle actually has a page on the 26th century (AD or CE). It lists eclipses - total solar eclipse in London in 2501, folks, I must remember to book a seat in the village horsecart. It also lists, heh heh, science fictional events from the 26th century, including some from Star Trek. I know he was briefly taken in by the Romulan Peace Process, but I wouldn't call Mr Spock a *traitor* ... Any traitor names among chessplayers? Benedict Arnold and Arnold Denker? Or Robert Hess (GM) vs Rudolf Hess -- the one who flew from Germany to Scotland during WW2 and got locked up in Spandau for his pains ... but does that count as traitorness? Traitority? Traitorhood? Or treason, even? *Treason's bleatings*, as <mack> sez. The King and the Queen? But I've never even *played* Jessica .... |
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Aug-18-11
 | | OhioChessFan: When I die, I'm leaving my body to science fiction. Steven Wright |
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Aug-18-11
 | | WannaBe: If no one can come up with one of the two possible answers, when should I post the answer/explanation? |
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Aug-19-11
 | | OhioChessFan: Maybe give it a try on the Stumpers page first? |
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Aug-19-11
 | | Domdaniel: <WannaBe> Not yet, please. I'm a slow thinker. |
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Aug-19-11
 | | Domdaniel: I saw (and, well, solved) a beautiful cryptic crossword clue yesterday: Eponymous songbird suffered distress (5,5)
To crack it, I had to break the word 'songbird' in two -- 'song' is part of the meaning of the answer, and 'bird' belongs to the cryptic bit. I already had a 'T' at the start, which got me thinking of tits. As they do. And from tits to titles ... voila: <title track> A 'title track' is an eponymous song. It also breaks down into 'tit let rack' which is equivalent to 'bird suffered distress'. Neat, innit? And not a songbird anywhere. |
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Aug-20-11
 | | Domdaniel: Still musing on conundrums. I thought I hit the mother lode with <M. Lode> but the M is for Marius. Though he played G Suez Panama vs M Lode, 2008, and that's a lot of digging. Canal Variation, I guess. If 20th and 26th were letters of the alphabet, we get T and Z. There's a played named Zagema - Z for 26th, age for century, Ma for traitor. I don't know why Ma is a traitor, but the Chinese probably do. Is Marco (Polo) the traveler?
Another angle: traitors are 'turncoats' and if you turn the letters in 'coats' you get Costa. Getting nowhere, in other words. |
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