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| Oct-22-13 | | Thanh Phan: That was not deliberate, at the time I was frustrated by their actions, I just wished to post and attempt to relax after, How many insults appear in the English language? Seems like there are many ways to express the wrong thought |
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Oct-22-13
 | | Domdaniel: <Thanh Phan> There are words and phrases in all languages, I think, which can be insulting. But maybe there is a difference with English -- because it is used across the world, in many different societies, there is always a danger that one speaker's vocabulary will inadvertently insult somebody from a different background. <How many insults in English?>
23,809 (preliminary estimate!) |
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Oct-22-13
 | | SwitchingQuylthulg: <Thanh Phan: That was not deliberate, at the time I was frustrated by their actions, I just wished to post and attempt to relax after> Don't worry about it. It's not important :-) |
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Oct-22-13
 | | Annie K.: <Switch> context aside, please don't confuse Thanh about this - referring to a person as "it" is very insulting (<Thanh>, it implies that you consider them less than human) so she should know not to do that, unless she means to. ;) <Thanh> another expression you or your sister often use, that I sometimes have trouble figuring out what you mean by, is 'gather'. :) |
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Oct-22-13
 | | Domdaniel: <Annie> -- Thanks.
< it implies that you consider them less than human> was exactly what concerned me. |
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Oct-22-13
 | | SwitchingQuylthulg: <Annie K.: <Switch> context aside, please don't confuse Thanh about this - referring to a person as "it" is very insulting (<Thanh>, it implies that you consider them less than human) so she should know not to do that, unless she means to. ;)> I wasn't talking about the insult, but then I'm sure you knew that :) Your advice to both her and me is, of course, valid. Curiously, in everyday Finnish everybody's an it. |
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| Oct-22-13 | | Thanh Phan: Thank you for clarity on the use of "it" and individuals, Had to look up the word "gather" and I confess to not knowing if I use the term correct, possible I could find a more direct word in place of "gather" I gather saying no it for it unless it is needed would gather eyebrows raised? clarity gathers ^.^ joking lol |
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| Oct-22-13 | | Thanh Phan: Seems the English language works best if a thesaurus is used, some words are closer to intent of the meaning people are attempting to express |
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Oct-22-13
 | | SwitchingQuylthulg: <Thanh Phan: I gather saying no it for it unless it is needed would gather eyebrows raised? clarity gathers ^.^> As in <The Gathering Clarity: Book 12 of A Whale of a Time>? |
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Oct-22-13
 | | Domdaniel: There's an ongoing event in Ireland this year, called 'The Gathering'.
I *think* the idea is something like a diaspora in reverse, ie persuading people of Irish ancestry to return for a visit. A marketing strategy, in other words. |
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| Oct-23-13 | | Thanh Phan: Most of the time the term I use 'gather' is from actual dictionary usage, collected, the act of gathering, to collect by making a selection, to learn from information given, After some reflection when <Annie K.> requested some feedback on my usage, I see that maybe I could have 'gathered' <lol> collected some alternate terms to use from the poor thesaurus that I bought from someone earlier today, <SwitchingQuylthulg: <Thanh Phan: I gather saying no it for it unless it is needed would gather eyebrows raised? clarity gathers ^.^>
As in <The Gathering Clarity: Book 12 of A Whale of a Time>? Um, Adds another subject to look up ^.^ Dang I missed a chance to add to the sentence <I gather saying no it for it unless it is needed would gather eyebrows raised? clarity gathers ^.^ joking lol> a 'her', would have been perfect, Maybe, <I gather her saying no it for it unless it is needed would gather eyebrows raised? clarity gathers ^.^ joking lol> :) just for lols |
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| Oct-23-13 | | hms123: <Thanh Phan>
I find <clarity gathers> to be quite poetic. I may start using <it>, with your permission, of course. |
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| Oct-23-13 | | Thanh Phan: <ms123: <Thanh Phan>
I find <clarity gathers> to be quite poetic. I may start using <it>, with your permission, of course.> Grants with pleasure if you don't mention my/our? constant misuse of the English language as it's form of birth lol |
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| Oct-23-13 | | Thanh Phan: amg i cant even typo a copy paste right! lools :x |
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| Oct-23-13 | | hms123: <Thanh Phan> thanks--check my banner. |
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| Oct-23-13 | | Thanh Phan: <hms123: <Thanh Phan> thanks--check my banner.> Nice :) Harbors much expression for thought |
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| Oct-23-13 | | Thanh Phan: clarity gathers, the rest eat dust and hope it's cookie dust and not <something else> lol |
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Oct-23-13
 | | WCC Editing Project: My dear <Dom>
"The Gathering" is a middling horror film starring <Christina Ricci>. It may, however, be based on an earlier work, possibly by Proust or the people who wrote "Are you Being Served"? Here is an audiovisual aid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XP2T... |
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Oct-23-13
 | | Domdaniel: < possibly by Proust or the people who wrote "Are you Being Served"?>
I remember that one ... "Au cote de chez la chatte de Mrs Slocombe" ... |
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Oct-23-13
 | | jessicafischerqueen: If you lived in Vancouver you wouldn't need to remember, because it's on continuously, along with "Bennie Hill" and "On the Buses." It's like a frozen moment in time that's lasted 30 years and counting. I have to say I'm fond of Mrs. Slocum, the old bat. The gay fellow was good as well, ahead of his time by some standards. I wonder if anyone ever wandered into a pub and said "I'll have a pint and a packet of Quentin crisps"? |
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Oct-23-13
 | | Domdaniel: <Usually they let her speak Vietnamese, German or Korean, expressed her sadness for her to defeat the English translation.> O-okay... |
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| Oct-23-13 | | Thanh Phan: The usual and primary usage is to ask or allow, "let her" also works in our language interestingly enough, and the main thought is asking her for, not just ask or allow, In English it does appear different, they decide she is Enabled or Allowed to speak the languages she has learned, Adding to the translated text, she is sorry for allowing the machine to express her own words wrong in this language |
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Oct-23-13
 | | Annie K.: Heh!
<Thanh> actually, saying 'I gather' for 'I understand' is good usage. The other instances need a little work. ;) No need to be sorry about anything, of course. :)
<Switch> of course, that's what 'context aside' meant, as I'm also sure you know. ;) Hungarian doesn't have any gender separation in its syntax either. <Dom: <<How many insults in English?> 23,809 (preliminary estimate!)>> English is an impoverished language. ;p |
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Oct-24-13
 | | SwitchingQuylthulg: <Annie K.: Hungarian doesn't have any gender separation in its syntax either.> Isn't that another matter entirely, though? A lack of gender separation doesn't preclude having different pronouns for people and non-people. |
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Oct-24-13
 | | Domdaniel: <Thanh> Thank you for the glosses and clarifications. As Annie said, there is no need to be sorry about anything. I did not raise the issue of clarity with the intention to criticise your English (which is much better than my grasp of most languages). All that is intended, from my perspective, is a friendly effort to help improve your English even more. |
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