Who are "they?">

Here a black supremacist openly proclaims his advocacy for white genocide.

Who are "they?">

Here a college professor shows he supports white genocide.

<They even have a name for it. The Great Replacement.> The term "Great Replacement" was not invented by these people you imagine are trying to eliminate whites.

On the contrary they are doing a very good job. White people are declining in number and the decline is escalating. The decline is caused by a program of genocide.

<No concentration camps, no systematic isolation and killing, no massive "kill whitey" rallies that I've heard of.>

White Genocide is being accomplished by what is called "soft genocide." Look up the term. Look up the United Nations definition if genocide.

Even so, the things you mentioned are taking place in South Africa today. Black South African leaders hold rallies in which they openly promote killing white people and exterminating them.

Innocent white people are being tortured and murdered in South Africa. The mainstream media refuses to report the truth about what is happening to white people in South Africa. It's genocide. Look up Alice and Helen Lotter. This crime was racially motivated. This kind of crime is now common in south Africa.

Here's a clip showing the murderer and terrorist Nelson Mandela singing the song "Kill the Boer. White liberals worship this criminal.

https://youtu.be/fcOXqFQw2hc

They even have a name for it. The Great Replacement.

<The term "Great Replacement" was not invented by these people you imagine are trying to eliminate whites.>

My understanding is that the term originated with the Muslims who are invading Europe.

<You clearly think that whites are in a battle for their very survival.>

I do.

<What are you doing to fight for the survival of your race?>

One of the things I'm trying to do is enlighten people about what is happening. Unfortunately white liberals are so badly brainwashed they won't even consider the idea that white genocide is real. They been trained to believe that white people are evil oppressors and non-whites are innocent victims. Their minds reject anything that doesn't fit this model.

Hopefully once they're enlightened they will fight White Genocide through legal and non-violent means. I do not advocate or condone illegal or violent acts.

Perhaps you should link to that post, or the first post of that series, in your bio? It's going to be a common topic here, and there's no point in having to rewrite the same thing over and over again, but who wants to scroll back and find that stuff?

And FYI, <GSM> does not identify as white.

He also stated on the Rogoff that it's not objectively wrong to torture babies for the fun of it.

I looked up "soft genocide" and found this article:

https://www.academia.edu/34936383/T...

How much of this do you agree with? Do you consider "ethnic dilution" and "miscegenation" to be forms of genocide?

<GW--And FYI, <GSM> does not identify as white.

He also stated on the Rogoff that it's not objectively wrong to torture babies for the fun of it.>

I supposed if pressed, I would say that I'm "white," based on my external appearance. How else are people identified as "white?"

I have stated that it is my belief that moral standards are made up by humans, are based on subjective criteria, and therefore must be subjective. In the absence of absolute moral standards, any action, no matter how disgusting and repugnant it may be, cannot be "objectively" wrong, although it may be almost universally condemned.

God gives mankind free will. This is why, on the Christian worldview, men are held responsible for their sins and are judged for them.

If God was the one responsible, then he wouldn't judge man for the sins He Himself is guilty of.

<It is this deity who constructed a universe where there is so much suffering, much of which seems to be needless.>

You presuppose that life is about avoiding suffering, feeling good, and being happy. That is your presupposition. Your assumption. You reason off of this unspoken, unacknowledged assumption.

The Christian worldview is that the meaning of life is to know God, and oftentimes suffering brings us to the Lord, so suffering isn't needless.

The Christian may explain that God made a good world and was happy with it, and that everything was just right, but he did give man free will, and it's because of man's free will that man sins, and sin always hurts people and causes suffering.

Finally, the Christian might turn <GSM's> logic upside down and remind him that he's judging God for creating a world that suffers, as though it is <objectively wrong> of God to do so, or that it is <objectively wrong> for there to be so much needless suffering, rather than merely and meekly stating this as his own little opinion.

In other words, not all suffering brings us to the Lord, just "oftentimes."

<...so suffering isn't needless.>

Except for when it is.

<The Christian may explain that God made a good world and was happy with it, and that everything was just right, but he did give man free will, and it's because of man's free will that man sins, and sin always hurts people and causes suffering.>

If "everything was just right," then wouldn't that include "sin?" God did make us that way, after all.

<Finally, the Christian might turn <GSM's> logic upside down and remind him that he's judging God for creating a world that suffers, as though it is <objectively wrong> of God to do so...>

I don't see myself as judging, just drawing a conclusion from the following facts: God created "a good world" which is nonetheless rife with suffering and sin, which "the Christian" currently going by the moniker of <George Wallace> says oftentimes, but not always, brings us to know his Lord.

I suppose he says he knows this because it said so in a book he says is divinely inspired, although there are other books that claim divine inspiration which say otherwise.

Except for when it is. >

You don't have the knowledge necessary to make that judgment. Also, suffering doesn't have to have a need, as it may be the consequence of something else. When a child is born with cancer, it may be because his grandfather did something that caused harm which was expressed genetically in his grandson. You just don't know.

I'm glad we agree so far.

<If "everything was just right," then wouldn't that include "sin?" God did make us that way, after all.>

Correct. God made is with free will, which is what you mean by "that way." Sin is to act against God's will, which is why sin is always bad and always hurtful.

So far so good? Okay, let's move on.

<I don't see myself as judging>

Doesn't matter, because you are judging.

<which "the Christian" currently going by the moniker of <George Wallace> says oftentimes, but not always, brings us to know his Lord.>

Some people are hard-headed and won't allow themselves to be drawn to the Lord, suffering or not. It doesn't mean that suffering is useless or unnecessary.

Your point is now completely busted.

<This brings me back to what <GW> calls "The Christian Worldview"--whatever that is.>

The Christian worldview is built off the fundamental truth that God exists, the God of the bible, the Christian God. Everything flows logically from there, in accordance with that fundamental view.

The rest of your post is mockery and other LEVEL ZERO (Graham's Hierarchy of Disagreement) responses.

I've dealth with your points:

1. You don't have the knowledge to pronounce suffering as needless or unnecessary.

2. Just because it's only oftentimes that suffering leads one to the Lord doesn't mean that the other suffering is needless, because hard-headed people resist the Lord.

3. You were judging as if OMV is reality. You talk the <No OMV> talk, but don't walk the <No OMV> walk.

You have no response to my rebuttals, except for mockery.

Who told you the Lord loves us all equally?

The Lord is a righteous and holy God! He is a morally perfect God and he is a just God. A loving, good, just God does not let evil go unpunished. Sin hurts people, and it hurts God. It causes God to grieve because he sees the full extent of the pain and suffering it brings.

God is going to punish the people responsible for the suffering in the world, the suffering that you care so much about.

If you sin, you declare yourself an enemy of the living God. You take up arms against him. You deserve hell if you sin.

Think about this: a man rapes your mother. You go to court and the judge finds him guilty, but he lets him go free.

Outraged, you demand to know why! He says, "I'm an all-loving judge, so I let him go free."

I guess you think that because you think of yourself as a proper Christian, you have judged that I lack this knowledge. I beg to differ.

Do you believe that all suffering is necessary? From this it follows that nothing should be done to minimize suffering. When you have a toothache, do you avoid going to the dentist, because your pain is part of your God's necessary suffering?

<Think about this: a man rapes your mother. You go to court and the judge finds him guilty, but he lets him go free.

Outraged, you demand to know why! He says, "I'm an all-loving judge, so I let him go free."

That's not right. An all-loving judge must judge righteously. He must give the lawbreaker his punishment, lest justice be perverted.>

In this scenario, God has allowed suffering to be inflicted upon my mother, the same God who turned Lot's wife into a pillar of salt for looking the wrong way. I have always been intrigued by what circumstances are required before divine intervention occurs.

If someone with the power to stop a crime from occurring allows it to occur, especially if they knew in advance that the crime was going to occur, doesn't that make them complicit in the crime?

Your God has fashioned the souls of all of us knowing full well what is going to happen. You yourself have said that that this is a good world, and that all suffering is necessary. If something happens, then it must be good, and if any suffering occurs, it must be necessary. At the same time, you fulminate against all the sin that occurs, even though God has allowed it to occur, sometimes intervening, sometimes not. This same God of yours is allowing "white genocide" to be happening even as we speak. It's all okay to you because practitioners of homosexuality and witchcraft are going to be roasting in all eternity somewhere down the line, and you won't be one of them.

Perhaps you should link to that post, or the first post of that series, in your bio? It's going to be a common topic here, and there's no point in having to rewrite the same thing over and over again, but who wants to scroll back and find that stuff?>>

Wow. I went back to do as GW suggested, provide a link to my posts about White Genocide. I found that my extensive posts about White Genocide in this forum were gone, they're no longer there.

I laid out the case explaining White Genocide and showed proof. I spent a lot of time and effort doing so. I made numerous posts. Those posts are now gone.>

You posted them on <Big Pawn>'s forum:

Big Pawn chessforum (kibitz #6054)>

Wow. Thanks for the info. My memory is playing tricks on me.

Apparently I posted them on Big Pawn's forum before I started my own forum. I thought I had posted them on my own forum.

White Genocide is real and is in no way "ridiculous" as claimed by some.

Here is the UN definition of genocide. This is a well thought out and good definition. What is being done to white people meets the first four points (out of five.) Anyone who can't see this is happening to white people is blind, brainwashed or stupid.

"The United Nations (UN) Defines genocide as any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

1) Killing members of the group;

2) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

3) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

4) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

5) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group."

These are just some ways White Genocide is being effected. White Genocide is worldwide and white people are attacked in every way the anti-whites can think of. White Genocide is real. The goal is the massive reduction in the numbers of white people and the eventual elimination of the existence of white people.

I will continue my exposition of White Genocide. First I will explain the difference between hard genocide and soft genocide.

A hard genocide involves physical violence. For example large numbers of the victim group might be shot and murdered. Racially motivated violence is escalating toward white people. We are seeing the beginnings of a hard genocide of white people.

In some places, such as South Africa, the hard genocide of white people is more advanced. In South Africa white people are routinely tortured and murdered. For example the torture murders of Alice and Helen Trotter. Black leaders openly call for killing all white people in South Africa. The liberal media won't report any of this because they're complicit in White Genocide.

Many people think hard genocide is the only kind of genocide there is. So when these people don't see a hard genocide taking place they dismiss White Genocide. This is a mistake.

Soft genocide is genocide is effected by means other than a hard genocide or physical violence. The genocide of white people has mainly been a soft genocide. There has been a campaign to persuade white people not to have children. Even though over-population is not a problem in predominantly white countries many whites won't have children for this reason.

There has been a concerted effort to persuade white girls and women to have children with non-whites, particularly black males. Here's some examples.

The status of white men is torn down in every way possible while the status of black males is built up in every way possible.

Black male female couples are shown in advertisements, TV shows, movies, etc. They are always shown as being happy.

White men are shown as inferior to or subordinate to black males in advertisements, TV shows, movies, etc.

Another way is to take away the means for white men to support a family. White men are heavily discriminated against in all areas of society.

White men are dehumanized and demonized so
they will be looked down at. Non-white men are made to seem to be superior.

The soft genocide of the white race has been very successful. The births of white children has been reduced. Whites are reproducing at below replacement level. As older whites die off the population of white people is shrinking. If current trends continue the complete elimination of white people is a mathematical certainty. This has all been planned and done intentionally.

Here are the 10 stages of genocide. These stages can be seen in both hard genocides and soft genocides. Genocides can contain elements of both. 1. Classification
2. Symbolization
3. Discrimination
4. Dehumanization
5. Organization
6. Polarization
7. Preparation
8. Persecution
9. Extermination
10. Denial

of the 10 stages of genocide I believe that all but number 2 are being done to the white race, to varying degrees. If an honest observers looks to see if these things are really happening they will realize they are.