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| Jan-30-08 | | technical draw: I stopped listening to pop music after Disco died. The Bee Gees was the last group I remember "wanting" to hear. |
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Jan-30-08
 | | chancho: Staying alive... Staying alive... Ahh... Ahh... Ahh... Staaayiiing Aliiive... |
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| Jan-30-08 | | Open Defence: geez I love 80s music hehehehe, stuff like Depeche Mode... I dont see those bands as artificial or Rybka like.. I see them like Astronauts using technology to go further |
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| Jan-30-08 | | Larsker: <I see them like Astronauts using technology to go further> Sometimes yes. But often it's more like laziness. Somewhere along the way, it was determined that the music video was more important than the music itself. Surface triumphed over content. So now they all have to be very young, very good-looking and very sexy. It doesn't matter much if the music is original. Ray Davies and his tooth gap wouldn't get far today. |
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| Jan-30-08 | | Open Defence: I disagree ... there will always be mainstream and alternative branches.. many of the great Blues and R&B artists never got to a wide audience because of the Radio policies of their time in the USA especially in the Southern States... in fact it took many British Rock N Roll Groups to popularise the Blues roots of their music with White America the methods used for promotion of music have nothing to do with the artistic contribution of using synthesisers ... I feel it unleashed a different creative side.. listen to Pink Floyd, Depeche Mode.. in fact the singer of Depeche Mode looks dorky.. some might even consider him a chess player ;-p the 80s-90s had a lot to say.. Madonna ... she was very visual but the videos also made an impact, listen to songs like Borderline, My Baby's got a secret, Bad Girl etc |
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| Jan-30-08 | | Boomie: The only interesting band I remember from the 80's was the Talking Heads. But they started in the 70's so maybe they don't count. Certainly Pink Floyd can't be listed as an 80's group since all their defining work occurred 10 years earlier. I think that by the time of the 80's, everything that could be done with rock and roll combos had already been done. |
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| Jan-30-08 | | Chess Classics: I cut my hand at work today and it started bleeding on a book. I thought of your biography of me and realized that it was perhaps a more relevant title than I hand originally thought. Regards,
CC |
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| Jan-31-08 | | Open Defence: <Certainly Pink Floyd can't be listed as an 80's group since all their defining work occurred 10 years earlier. I think that by the time of the 80's, everything that could be done with rock and roll combos had already been done.> Boomie my point about Pink Floyd was that synthesisers can be used creatively the "mainstream" artists such as Madonna, Britney Spears etc are no less valid just because they are mainstream.. listen to Britney's new track "Piece of me" very creative loops used there .. you might not like the style and the pop star antics may be nauseating but you can't say its not artistically valid |
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| Jan-31-08 | | achieve: <Jess> How about this Bio.... < I´m from Brazil and I play at ... I´m young, but I guess I have knowledge about a lot of things relationated with chess. I can always talk to everybody, and my favorite chess players are Tartakower, Steinitz and Pillsbury. Sorry about my bad English. I want to make friends here, and talk a lot about... chess, of course! Send me an e-mail! Let´s be friends! Send me an e-mail for we talk a lot about chess and exchange problems... My e-mail is ... > "relationated" (heh - love it..)
"I want to make friends here, and talk a lot about... chess, of course! Send me an e-mail! Let´s be friends!" - It's that simple. (Just had to share this one) |
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| Jan-31-08 | | Boomie: <Open Defence: <Certainly Pink Floyd can't be listed as an 80's group since all their defining work occurred 10 years earlier. I think that by the time of the 80's, everything that could be done with rock and roll combos had already been done.> Boomie my point about Pink Floyd was that synthesisers can be used creatively
the "mainstream" artists such as Madonna, Britney Spears etc are no less valid just because they are mainstream.. listen to Britney's new track "Piece of me" very creative loops used there .. you might not like the style and the pop star antics may be nauseating but you can't say its not artistically valid> Oops. I messed mixaphores again. I'm not at all disturbed by pop star antics today. Even that was well covered in the 60's and 70's. David Bowie was a favorite of mine for his terrific R and R. His stage show was totally X-rated. No synth sounds there, though. His bands were too good to gloss over with taped noise. One of my pet theories is that humanity is devolving and that is certainly reflected in popular music. Nothing can touch the late 60's and early 70's by any measure chosen. Maybe I'm prejudiced because that was my time for pop. I saw Bowie live and was at Hendrix' last concert. Jimi was the real deal who needed no help from the studio. Jethro Tull concerts were also great fun before Aqualung, which I saw as a collection of great songs which together made an indigestible meal. But I digress... |
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| Jan-31-08 | | Larsker: <you can't say its not artistically valid> I thought that was what discussions are all about :-) |
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| Jan-31-08 | | Open Defence: <Larsker> absolutely which is why we have a Fischer page :-) seriously though, there are many who are dimissive of Rap, Techno, House, etc citing monotony as the main reason well from my perspective I find some Techno and House especially Electro-House sounds very interesting especially the different textures and sound scapes coming back to the 80s .. let's take for example The Pet Shop Boys I really liked their cover of You Were Always on My Mind.. it took guts to cover a song like that the way they did and did put a different perspective on it this is all just my opinion anyway .. Art is in the mind of beholder ? |
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| Jan-31-08 | | Larsker: <Open Defence> True, true. I love the Pet Shop Boys too - but still, some of it sounds a bit metallic today. Here an example of what I mean (Prefab Sprout):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Swv...
Wonderful song (in my opinion) - but how I wish they'd used real horns and not some cheapo synthesizer (03:31-03:53). (The album version is about a minute longer). The Internet has changed the way I listen to music. I can let <time> sift the good stuff from the not-so-good - and in 10 years I can say: "Oh - they made good music in 2008? Let me have it." |
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| Jan-31-08 | | Open Defence: if you talkin' Prefab Sprout then this is the stuff!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vH0H... that synthesiser intro made this song very distinctive than if a guitar or Tuba played it |
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| Jan-31-08 | | Larsker: On the song <Nightingales> they luckily chose Stewie Wonder instead of the synthesizer. There's something endaring about those old music videos. Not too much going on. As swimming pool videos goes, <Falco> was more like <Hieronymus Bosch>: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToYW... |
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| Jan-31-08 | | Open Defence: I know... it's only rock n roll.. but i like it :) |
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Jan-31-08
 | | jessicafischerqueen: Dr. Zaius Dr. Zaius!
Dr. Zaius Dr. Zaius!
Rock me Dr. Zaius! |
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| Jan-31-08 | | achieve: heh - FALCO |
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Jan-31-08
| | jessicafischerqueen: FALCO better than MOZART?
Believe!
(greatest video ever)
ROCK ME AMADEUS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b20U... |
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| Jan-31-08 | | Open Defence: <who needed no help from the studio> well there is a difference from genuine studio creativity e.g. Pink Floyd again.. and the studio being used to cover up mediocrity e.g. Milli Vanilli perhaps ? |
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Jan-31-08
| | jessicafischerqueen: why would <Austria> boast about <Kurt Godel>, maybe the most brilliant mathemetician in the history of civilization, when they can boast about A) Falco
B) Arnold Svcharzenegger
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Jan-31-08
| | jessicafischerqueen: <deffi> I'm with you on the great <Deff-larsker> debate. However, I keep posting <Joy Division's> ATMOSPHERE, which <Phil Specter> turned into a GROUNDBREAKING fusion of instrument and studio synth tinkering in the early 80s, AND NO ONE WILL LISTEN TO IT!!!
Don't walk away....
(TINGLY LITTLE GLASS SILVER RAIN SOUNDS)
whoooo |
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Jan-31-08
| | jessicafischerqueen: <Larsker>
Hey ho, by the way.
I've heard legends about you from <Dom Daniel> and others, it's certainly interesting to have you set up shop here. You are welcome.
Who knew you would be so crabby about pop music?
I have a theory that the pop music I like is brilliant, and all the rest of it is crap. What do you think of my "argument"? |
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| Jan-31-08 | | Open Defence: <B) Arnold Svcharzenegger > well they disowned him since he became a Kennedey ... he is now the lead singer of the <Red Kennedeys> btw Phil Spector another creative genius of the studio so we are only left with Falco now.. c'mon and Rock me Amadeus! you vill obey ya?!!! |
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Jan-31-08
| | jessicafischerqueen: Red Kennedys...
choke, sputter..
HAHAHAHAH
heh |
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