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| Jul-27-09 | | Open Defence: <The Declaration of Independence is therefore modeled on <Euclid>.> The realpolitik seems to be on the lines as discovered by Archimedes... when one discovers something one is most likely to run through the streets naked shouting about it... |
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| Jul-27-09 | | twinlark: <Deffi>
I'd've thought that realpolitik was about the pragmatic use of power that serves the elites rather than about discovery or knowledge. |
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| Jul-27-09 | | Open Defence: <twinlark> yes, just as icebergs have always floated, displaced their mass and knocked ships sideways.. like Archimedes and the Titanic discovered.. its just a matter of when, but then the icebergs are melting... |
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| Jul-27-09 | | twinlark: Interesting image. That of the good ship <Human Rights> being shipwrecked or shunted by the realpolitik iceberg. |
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| Jul-27-09 | | Open Defence: or the buoys of natural justice melting, allowing the cold steel ships to sail on... |
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| Jul-27-09 | | twinlark: That bad, huh? |
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| Jul-27-09 | | Open Defence: depends on which side of the ice berg you are... |
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| Jul-27-09 | | twinlark: ...or whether you're on the iceberg... |
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| Jul-27-09 | | twinlark: ...with a polar bear...named <Opportunism> |
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| Jul-27-09 | | Travis Bickle: Hmm <Opportunism> reminds me of an old Elvis Costello song.
http://www.imeem.com/people/m9dUQy/... |
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Jul-27-09
 | | Domdaniel: <twinlark> Not to mention the mental anguish endured by Gauss, Lobachevsky and Bolyai when they discovered that Euclidean geometry was *not*, in fact, a description of reality. Other geometries were possible. Our minds had latched onto this one, but ... minds have a tendency to latch, don't they? I'm with Jess. Human rights are a very good idea, but they're just something we invent and agree to worship, like money and fertility gods. |
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| Jul-27-09 | | Travis Bickle: hey Dom can I borrow a few of your comic books? ; P |
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Jul-27-09
 | | Domdaniel: <Travis> Happily, but some guy beat you to it. I gave 'em away to this person, said he was making a movie and needed 'em for research. So now I got mental furniture. Harder to lend, but I try. |
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| Jul-27-09 | | Travis Bickle: Thanks anyway Zues. |
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| Jul-27-09 | | Travis Bickle: <twinlark> I really appreciate your enthusiasm but did you know plagiarism
is against the law LOL! |
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| Jul-27-09 | | twinlark: <Travis>
Hi buddy. What are you referring to? |
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| Jul-27-09 | | Travis Bickle: <twinlark> I basically was referring to you as this wannabe blabbering intellectual in this Woody Allen film that loses the point of reality in over analysis and misunderstanding of other people's literary works. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpIY... |
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| Jul-27-09 | | twinlark: <Travis>
Plagiarism and "blabbering" are two different things. Plagiarism is ripping off another person's work word for word without acknowledging it. "Blabbering" is verbal diarrhea.
So put your money where your mouth is and tell me where I've lost <the point of reality in over analysis and misunderstanding of other people's literary works.> |
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| Jul-27-09 | | twinlark: <Domdaniel>
<Not to mention the mental anguish endured by Gauss, Lobachevsky and Bolyai when they discovered that Euclidean geometry was *not*, in fact, a description of reality. Other geometries were possible.> And there are other non-Euclidean forms of geometry too, including <elliptical geometry> and <spherical geometry> (which is two dimensional geometry??). But both the G-L-B and the elliptical systems are based on the first four of Euclid's postulates, and are all logically consistent, aren't they? So maybe <Euclidean geometry> is not the <only> description of reality, or perhaps it's only a partial description. Are there any geometricians in the house? My angles are swollen. |
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Jul-27-09
 | | jessicafischerqueen: There's a <trigonometrist> but he's not in the house at present. |
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| Jul-27-09 | | twinlark: My rectangles are in even more trouble. |
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Jul-27-09
 | | jessicafischerqueen: OUCH
Unfortunate mental image |
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Jul-27-09
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <Doggimus>
On a rare serious note, I know there are a bunch of <actual mathemeticians> at this website but I think only <DomDaniel> knows who they are. Perhaps we should ask him for a Map to their Houses.
I think we should always involve mathemeticians in discussions of philosophy. Like <Bertand Russell>, for example. |
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| Jul-27-09 | | Travis Bickle: Jess, well at least it didnt take you two weeks to answer about him! <Twinlark> I should have kept my mouth (typewriter), shut as to you and Dom's discussion. It was my weird sense of humor and sacrcasm that I unfortunatley led me to write that B.S. You and Dom probably have read 1,000 books more than I have and I found it funny that I didnt understand a thing of what you were saying. It's your discussion I wont bother you or jessica's forum again. |
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| Jul-27-09 | | Boomie: <jessicafischerqueen: <Doggimus> On a rare serious note, I know there are a bunch of <actual mathemeticians> at this website but I think only <DomDaniel> knows who they are.> I believe our very own Howard the Duck may have mathematical insights. Or was that metamagical? Russel's attempt to embrace "everything" with mathematics was cruelly shot down by Goedel's neat little logical argument. That's science in general where a lifetime of work can be erased in one afternoon. One of the great blunders in science resulted in 10 years of erroneous cancer research. A great little book, A Conspiracy of Cells, describes that sad chapter in science history. As for geometries, there have been many fashionable theories created to make particle theories work. At last count, I think 11 dimensions are needed to make superstrings work. But that is more philosophy than science. They will never be able to observe strings so they fall outside of science as I understand it. |
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