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Oct-14-10
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  LIFE Master AJ: 13: The World - Natalia Pogonina, Chessgames Challenge 2010 Houdini ChessBase Analysis


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Analysis by Houdini 1.03a w32 2_CPU:

23...cxd4 24.Rxc7 Qxc7 25.Nxd4 Ne5 26.Nc6 Nxc6 27.Bxc6 Rd8 28.Rxd8+ Qxd8 29.Bd5 g6 30.Qc4 Qd7 31.Kg2 Kg7 32.a4 Bd8 33.Qd4+ Bf6 34.Qe4 = (0.06) Depth: 6/14 00:00:00 5kN
23...cxd4 24.Rxc7 Qxc7 25.Nxd4 Ne5 26.Nc6 Nxc6 27.Bxc6 Rd8 28.Rxd8+ Qxd8 29.Bd5 g6 30.Qc4 Qd7 31.Kg2 Kg7 32.a4 Bd8 33.Qd4+ Bf6 34.Qe4 = (0.06) Depth: 7/23 00:00:00 6kN
23...cxd4 24.Rxc7 Qxc7 25.Nxd4 Ne5 26.Nc6 Nxc6 27.Bxc6 Rc8 28.Be4 Qc5 29.Qxc5 Rxc5 30.f4 Rc4 31.Bd5 = (0.11) Depth: 8/23 00:00:00 8kN
23...Bxd4 24.Nxd4 cxd4 25.Rxc7 Qxc7 26.Rxd4 Ne5 27.Qe2 Re8 28.a4 Qc5 = (0.08) Depth: 8/23 00:00:00 23kN
23...Bxd4 24.Nxd4 cxd4 25.Rxc7 Qxc7 26.Qd3 Nf6 27.Qxd4 Re8 28.Bf3 a6 29.Qd3 = (0.08) Depth: 9/25 00:00:00 46kN
23...Bxd4 24.Nxd4 cxd4 25.Rxc7 Qxc7 26.Qd3 Re8 27.Qxd4 Ne5 28.f4 Ng4 29.Be4 Nf6 30.Bf3 = (0.08) Depth: 10/27 00:00:00 91kN
23...Bxd4 24.Nxd4 cxd4 25.Rxc7 Qxc7 26.Qd3 Re8 27.Qxd4 Nb6 28.Qd3 Qc5 29.Bf3 Nc4 30.Qd7 Re6 = (0.08) Depth: 11/27 00:00:00 139kN
23...cxd4 24.Rxc7 Qxc7 25.Nxd4 Ne5 26.Nc6 Nxc6 27.Bxc6 Rd8 28.Rxd8+ Qxd8 29.Bd5 g6 30.Qc5 Qb6 31.Qxb6 axb6 = (0.07) Depth: 11/27 00:00:00 148kN
23...cxd4 24.Rxc7 Qxc7 25.Nxd4 Ne5 26.Nc6 Nxc6 27.Bxc6 Rd8 28.Rxd8+ Qxd8 29.Bd5 g6 30.Qc4 Qd7 31.Kg2 Kg7 32.Qe4 Qb5 33.a4 Qc5 34.Ba2 Bd4 35.Qb7 = (0.07) Depth: 12/27 00:00:00 163kN
23...Bxd4 24.Nxd4 cxd4 25.Rxc7 Qxc7 26.Qd3 a5 27.Qxd4 Nf6 28.Bf1 Re8 29.Qc4 Qxc4 30.Bxc4 g6 31.Kg2 Kg7 32.f3 = (0.09) Depth: 13/34 00:00:00 634kN
23...Bxd4 24.Nxd4 cxd4 25.Rxc7 Qxc7 26.Qd3 Nf6 27.Qxd4 Qc2 28.Bf3 Qxa2 29.Kg2 Qa5 30.Ra1 Qb6 31.Qa4 Rd8 32.Qxa7 Qb2 33.Qc7 = (0.10) Depth: 14/34 00:00:00 1309kN
23...cxd4 24.Rxc7 Qxc7 25.Nxd4 Ne5 26.Nc6 Nxc6 27.Bxc6 Rd8 28.Rxd8+ Qxd8 29.Bd5 g6 30.Qc4 Qd7 31.Kg2 Kg7 32.Qe4 Qb5 33.Bb3 = (0.07) Depth: 14/34 00:00:00 1341kN
23...cxd4 24.Rxc7 Qxc7 25.Nxd4 Ne5 26.Nc6 Nxc6 27.Bxc6 Rd8 28.Rxd8+ Qxd8 29.Bd5 g6 30.Qc4 Qd7 31.Kg2 Kg7 32.a4 a5 33.Qc5 Qxa4 34.Qa7 Qe8 35.Qxa5 Qe5 = (0.08) Depth: 15/34 00:00:00 1421kN
23...cxd4 24.Rxc7 Qxc7 25.Nxd4 Ne5 26.Nc6 Nxc6 27.Bxc6 Rd8 28.Rxd8+ Qxd8 29.Bd5 g6 30.Qc4 Qd7 31.Kg2 Kg7 32.a4 Bd8 33.Qd4+ Bf6 34.Qe4 a5 35.f4 = (0.08) Depth: 16/36 00:00:00 1785kN

Oct-14-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  LIFE Master AJ: 13: The World - Natalia Pogonina, Chessgames Challenge 2010

Houdini ChessBase Analysis (Part II)


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Analysis by Houdini 1.03a w32 2_CPU:

23...cxd4 24.Rxc7 Qxc7 25.Nxd4 Ne5 26.Nc6 Nxc6 27.Bxc6 Rd8 28.Rxd8+ Qxd8 29.Bd5 g6 30.Qc4 Qd7 31.Kg2 Kg7 32.a4 Bd8 33.Qd4+ Bf6 34.Qe4 h5 35.f3 a5 = (0.08) Depth: 17/39 00:00:00 2323kN
23...cxd4 24.Rxc7 Qxc7 25.Nxd4 Ne5 26.Nc6 Nxc6 27.Bxc6 Rd8 28.Rxd8+ Qxd8 29.Bd5 g6 30.Qc4 Qd7 31.Kg2 Kg7 32.a4 Bd8 33.Qd4+ Bf6 34.Qe4 a5 35.f4 = (0.08) Depth: 18/39 00:00:01 2839kN
23...cxd4 24.Rxc7 Qxc7 25.Nxd4 Ne5 26.Nc6 Nxc6 27.Bxc6 Rd8 28.Rxd8+ Qxd8 29.Bd5 g6 30.Qc4 Qd7 31.Kg2 Kg7 32.a4 Bd8 33.Qd4+ Bf6 34.Qe4 a5 35.f4 Bc3 36.Qd3 = (0.08) Depth: 19/41 00:00:01 4927kN
23...cxd4 24.Rxc7 Qxc7 25.Nxd4 Ne5 26.Nc6 Nxc6 27.Bxc6 Rd8 28.Rxd8+ Qxd8 29.Bd5 g6 30.Qc4 Qd7 31.Kg2 Kg7 32.a4 a5 33.Qc5 Qxa4 34.Qa7 Qe8 35.Qxa5 Qe5 36.Qd2 Be7 = (0.06) Depth: 20/41 00:00:02 6750kN
23...cxd4 24.Rxc7 Qxc7 25.Nxd4 Ne5 26.Nc6 Nxc6 27.Bxc6 Rd8 28.Rxd8+ Qxd8 29.Bd5 g6 30.Qc4 Qd7 31.Kg2 Kg7 32.a4 Bd8 33.Qd4+ Bf6 34.Qe4 a5 35.f4 h5 36.h3 Bc3 37.Qd3 = (0.07) Depth: 21/41 00:00:03 9113kN
23...cxd4 24.Rxc7 Qxc7 25.Nxd4 Ne5 26.Nc6 Nxc6 27.Bxc6 Rd8 28.Rxd8+ Qxd8 29.Bd5 g6 30.Qc4 Qd7 31.Kg2 Kg7 32.a4 Bd8 33.Qd4+ Bf6 34.Qe4 a5 35.f4 h5 36.h3 Bc3 37.Qd3 = (0.07) Depth: 22/49 00:00:05 16453kN
23...cxd4 24.Rxc7 Qxc7 25.Nxd4 Ne5 26.Nc6 Nxc6 27.Bxc6 Rd8 28.Rxd8+ Qxd8 29.Bd5 g6 30.Qc4 Qd7 31.Kg2 Kg7 32.a4 Bd8 33.Qd4+ Bf6 34.Qe4 a5 35.f4 Qc8 36.Bc6 Qb8 37.Bb5 Qd6 = (0.06) Depth: 23/49 00:00:08 25409kN
23...cxd4 24.Rxc7 Qxc7 25.Nxd4 Ne5 26.Nc6 Nxc6 27.Bxc6 Rd8 28.Rxd8+ Qxd8 29.Bd5 g6 30.Qc4 Qd7 31.Kg2 Kg7 32.a4 Bd8 33.Qd4+ Bf6 34.Qe4 Qc7 35.Qd3 Qc3 36.Qb5 Qc7 37.Qe8 h5 38.a5 Bd4 = (0.06) Depth: 24/54 00:00:20 61473kN
23...cxd4 24.Rxc7 Qxc7 25.Nxd4 Ne5 26.Nc6 Nxc6 27.Bxc6 Rd8 28.Rxd8+ Qxd8 29.Bd5 g6 30.Qc4 Qd7 31.Kg2 Kg7 32.a4 Bd8 33.Qd4+ Bf6 34.Qe4 Qc7 35.Qd3 Qd7 36.a5 Qc7 37.Qb3 Bd4 38.Qa4 Bf6 39.Qe8 Bd4 = (0.06) Depth: 25/55 00:00:39 122mN
23...cxd4 24.Rxc7 Qxc7 25.Nxd4 Ne5 26.Nc6 Nxc6 27.Bxc6 Rd8 28.Rxd8+ Qxd8 29.Bd5 g6 30.Qc4 Qd7 31.Kg2 Kg7 32.a4 Bd8 33.Qd4+ Bf6 34.Qe4 Qc7 35.Qd3 Qd7 36.a5 Qc7 37.a6 Qc3 = (0.06) Depth: 26/56 00:03:19 614mN
23...cxd4 24.Rxc7 Qxc7 25.Nxd4 Ne5 26.Nc6 Nxc6 27.Bxc6 Rd8 28.Rxd8+ Qxd8 29.Bd5 g6 30.Qc4 Qd7 31.Kg2 Kg7 32.a4 Bd8 33.Qd4+ Bf6 34.Qe4 Qc7 35.Bb3 Qd7 36.a5 Qb5 37.Ba2 a6 38.Bc4 Qc5 = (0.05) Depth: 27/58 00:06:35 1229mN
23...cxd4 24.Rxc7 Qxc7 25.Nxd4 Ne5 26.Nc6 Nxc6 27.Bxc6 Rd8 28.Rxd8+ Qxd8 29.Bd5 g6 30.Qc4 Qd7 31.Kg2 Kg7 32.a4 Bd8 33.Qd4+ Bf6 34.Qe4 Qc7 35.Bb3 Qd7 36.h3 h5 37.Bd5 Qe7 38.Qxe7 Bxe7 39.Kf3 = (0.05) Depth: 28/58 00:12:48 2404mN
23...cxd4 24.Rxc7 Qxc7 25.Nxd4 Ne5 26.Qa4 Rd8 27.Nf5 Rxd1+ 28.Qxd1 Qa5 29.Bd5 g6 30.Nd6 Be7 31.Ne4 Qb5 32.Kg2 Qd3 33.Qxd3 Nxd3 34.f4 Kg7 35.Bc4 Nb2 36.Be2 Bb4 37.g4 f5 = (0.04) Depth: 29/66 00:28:01 5288mN
23...cxd4 24.Rxc7 Qxc7 25.Nxd4 Ne5 26.Nc6 Nxc6 27.Bxc6 Rd8 28.Rxd8+ Qxd8 29.Bd5 g6 30.Kg2 Kg7 31.Qc4 Qd7 32.a4 h5 33.h4 a5 34.Qc5 Qxa4 35.Qc7 Qe8 36.Qxa5 Qe2 37.Qc7 = (0.04) Depth: 30/66 00:56:38 10708mN
23...cxd4 24.Rxc7 Qxc7 25.Nxd4 Ne5 26.Nc6 Nxc6 27.Bxc6 Rd8 28.Rxd8+ Qxd8 29.Bd5 g6 30.Kg2 Kg7 31.Qc4 Qd7 32.Qe4 Qe7 33.Qg4 Qc7 34.a4 a5 = (0.02) Depth: 31/66 02:14:10 25116mN
23...cxd4 24.Rxc7 Qxc7 25.Nxd4 Ne5 26.Nc6 Nxc6 27.Bxc6 Rd8 28.Rxd8+ Qxd8 29.Bd5 g6 30.Kg2 Kg7 31.Qc4 Qd7 32.Qe4 Qe7 33.Qg4 Qc7 34.Qb4 Qe7 35.Qxe7 Bxe7 36.f4 Bc5 37.h3 f5 38.a4 Bb6 39.Kf3 = (0.02) Depth: 32/68 03:25:10 38626mN

(LIFE Master A.J. 14,10,2010.)

Oct-14-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  LIFE Master AJ: The World - Natalia Pogonina [E00]
Chessgames Challenge chessgames.com (1), 31.08.2010
[A.J.G.]

Houdini analysis

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 d5 4.g3 Bb4+ 5.Bd2 Be7 6.Bg2 c6 7.0-0 0-0 8.Qc2 b6 9.Rd1 Nbd7 10.Bf4 Ba6 11.Nbd2 Rc8 12.Rac1 Nh5 13.Be3 Nhf6 14.Bg5 h6 15.Bxf6,


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This is the current position.

[15.Bf4!?]

15...Bxf6; Looks best.

[15...Nxf6 16.Ne5 Bb7 ▢ (Inferior would be: 16...c5?! 17.Qa4 Bb7 18.Qxa7, , maybe ) 17.e4 Nd7 18.Nd3 a5 19.Qc3, "="]

16.e4 Bb7 17.b4! c5 18.bxc5 bxc5 19.cxd5 exd5 20.Qb3 dxe4 21.Qxb7 exf3 22.Nxf3 Rc7 23.Qb5, ∞


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This is probably close to equal, although I like White here. Line

This line ran all night, below is some of the analysis. (I will post this both in Engine Room 2 and the main forum.)

[23...cxd4 24.Rxc7 Qxc7 25.Nxd4 Ne5 26.Nc6 Nxc6 27.Bxc6 Rd8 28.Rxd8+ Qxd8 29.Bd5 g6 30.Qc4 Qd7 31.Kg2 Kg7 32.a4 Bd8 33.Qd4+ Bf6 34.Qe4 Qc7 35.Bb3 Qd7 36.h3 h5 37.Bd5 Qe7 38.Qxe7 Bxe7 39.Kf3 = (0.05) Depth: 28/58 00:12:48 2404mN

23...cxd4 24.Rxc7 Qxc7 25.Nxd4 Ne5 26.Qa4 Rd8 27.Nf5 Rxd1+ 28.Qxd1 Qa5 29.Bd5 g6 30.Nd6 Be7 31.Ne4 Qb5 32.Kg2 Qd3 33.Qxd3 Nxd3 34.f4 Kg7 35.Bc4 Nb2 36.Be2 Bb4 37.g4 f5 = (0.04) Depth: 29/66 00:28:01 5288mN

23...cxd4 24.Rxc7 Qxc7 25.Nxd4 Ne5 26.Nc6 Nxc6 27.Bxc6 Rd8 28.Rxd8+ Qxd8 29.Bd5 g6 30.Kg2 Kg7 31.Qc4 Qd7 32.a4 h5 33.h4 a5 34.Qc5 Qxa4 35.Qc7 Qe8 36.Qxa5 Qe2 37.Qc7 = (0.04) Depth: 30/66 00:56:38 10708mN

23...cxd4 24.Rxc7 Qxc7 25.Nxd4 Ne5 26.Nc6 Nxc6 27.Bxc6 Rd8 28.Rxd8+ Qxd8 29.Bd5 g6 30.Kg2 Kg7 31.Qc4 Qd7 32.Qe4 Qe7 33.Qg4 Qc7 34.a4 a5 = (0.02) Depth: 31/66 02:14:10 25116mN

23...cxd4 24.Rxc7 Qxc7 25.Nxd4 Ne5 26.Nc6 Nxc6 27.Bxc6 Rd8 28.Rxd8+ Qxd8 29.Bd5 g6 30.Kg2 Kg7 31.Qc4 Qd7 32.Qe4 Qe7 33.Qg4 Qc7 34.Qb4 Qe7 35.Qxe7 Bxe7 36.f4 Bc5 37.h3 f5 38.a4 Bb6 39.Kf3 = (0.02) Depth: 32/68 03:25:10 38626mN

(LIFE Master A.J. 14,10,2010.)

Oct-14-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  LIFE Master AJ: The World - GM N. Pogonina [E08]
CG Challenge (Fritz analysis), 14.10.2010
[A.J.G.]

For Garech.
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 d5 4.g3 Bb4+ 5.Bd2 Be7 6.Bg2 c6 7.0-0 0-0 8.Qc2 b6 9.Rd1 Nbd7 10.Bf4 Ba6 11.Nbd2 Rc8 12.Rac1 Nh5 13.Be3 Nhf6 14.Bg5 h6 15.Bxf6,


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This is the current position.

15...Bxf6 16.e4 g5!?;
I think ALL of my engines prefer 15...Bb7; in this position. (Pushing the g-pawn to g5 looks risky to me.) 17.h3 , one of the first choices of Fritz. It makes a certain sense, as it prevents the WN on f3 from getting kicked.

[Also possible was: 17.e5!?; but not: 17.b4? g4; ]

17...Bb7 18.e5,
The choice of Fritz after 10-15 minutes.
(Gains space, kick's the Bishop on f6, locks down the dark squares, leaves Black's K-side a little weak, etc.)

[18.Qa4 , - Stockfish ]

18...Be7 19.Qd3!,
Prolly a good idea to get the WQ off the c-file with ...c5 coming.

[19.Qa4!?]

19...c5 20.Qe2, (Qe3 - Stockfish / cxd5 - Houdini) [Line] I rate this position as just a little bit better for White. (Fritz 12 agrees, going to let Fritz run for at least 30 minutes here.)


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***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** *****

Below are just a few of the lines:

20...Ba6 21.Qe3 dxc4 22.Ne4 cxd4 23.Nxd4 Qc7 24.Nd6 Bxd6 25.exd6 Qxd6 26.Nf5 Qc5 27.Nxh6+ Kg7 28.Rxd7 Qxe3 29.fxe3 Kxh6 30.Rxa7 Bb5 (0.38) Depth: 17/41 00:00:47 111mN

20...Ba6 21.Qe3 dxc4 22.Ne4 cxd4 23.Nxd4 Nxe5 24.Nxe6 fxe6 25.Rxd8 Rcxd8 26.Nc3 Rf5 27.Qe2 Bc5 28.Ne4 Bb4 29.Rd1 Nd3 (0.38) Depth: 18/42 00:01:09 161mN

20...Ba6 21.Qe3 dxc4 22.Ne4 cxd4 23.Nxd4 Nxe5 24.Nxe6 fxe6 25.Rxd8 Rcxd8 26.Qe2 Nd3 27.Rd1 Rf5 28.b3 Bb4 29.bxc4 (0.38) Depth: 19/45 00:02:00 282mN

20...Re8 21.dxc5 bxc5 22.Ne1 Ba6 23.Nd3 Bf8 24.Qe3 Bg7 25.b4 cxb4 26.Nxb4 Qa5 27.Nxa6 Qxa6 28.cxd5 Rxc1 = (0.16) Depth: 19/48 00:10:05 1418mN

20...Re8 21.a3 Bf8 22.dxc5 bxc5 23.Ne1 Ba6 24.Nd3 Bg7 25.Re1 Qb6 26.Bf3 Qc7 27.Rc2 Rb8 28.Kg2 = (0.09) Depth: 20/53 00:33:30 4747mN

20...Re8 21.a3 Bf8 22.dxc5 bxc5 23.Ne1 Bg7 24.Nd3 a5 25.b3 Qc7 26.Re1 Ba6 27.cxd5 Nxe5 = (0.06) Depth: 21/49 00:42:19 6005mN

(A.J.G; / 14,10,2010.)

Oct-14-10
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  kutztown46: After 16. b4


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Analysis by Houdini 1.03a x64 4_CPU (25-ply):

1. = (0.12): 16...Bb7 17.Qb3 Ba8 18.e4 Be7 19.a3 Re8 20.Ne1 dxe4 21.Nxe4 Qc7 22.c5 Rcd8 23.Nf3 a5 24.Rd2 axb4

2. = (0.12): 16...Re8 17.e4 Bb7 18.e5 Be7 19.Qb3 Nf8 20.Ne1 Qd7 21.h4 Ng6 22.h5 Nf8 23.Nd3 Nh7 24.a3 Rcd8

3. = (0.16): 16...Be7 17.Qb3 Bb7 18.Ne1 h5 19.Nd3 h4 20.e3 Re8 21.a4 hxg3 22.hxg3 Nf6 23.c5 Qc7 24.Nf3 bxc5 25.Nxc5 Nd7

4. = (0.17): 16...h5 17.Qb3 Bb7 18.e4 Be7 19.a3 Rc7 20.Qd3 Ba6 21.Qc2 Rc8 22.e5 Bb7 23.Qb3 Re8 24.h4 a5 25.bxa5 Rb8 26.axb6 Qxb6 27.Qxb6 Nxb6 28.c5 Na4

5. = (0.17): 16...g5 17.e3 Bb7 18.Qa4 a6 19.Qb3 g4 20.Ne1 Bg7 21.a4 Qg5 22.a5 b5 23.c5 e5 24.h4 Qh5 25.Qc3

6. = (0.17): 16...g6 17.e4 Bg7 18.Qb3 Bb7 19.e5 g5 20.Re1 a6 21.h3 f6 22.cxd5 cxd5 23.Rxc8 Qxc8 24.exf6 Rxf6 25.a4 Qc6

7. = (0.17): 16...Rb8 17.e4 Bb7 18.a3 Re8 19.e5 Be7 20.Ne1 a5 21.Nd3 Ra8 22.Ra1 Qb8 23.Qb2 Rc8 24.h4 Qc7 25.Rdc1

8. = (0.18): 16...Qe7 17.Qb3 Bb7 18.e4 g5 19.Re1 Rb8 20.h3 dxc4 21.Nxc4 Bh8 22.e5 c5 23.bxc5 bxc5 24.Qa3 Rfe8 25.dxc5 Qxc5 26.Qxc5 Nxc5 27.Re3 Nd7 28.Nfd2 Rec8

9. = (0.20): 16...Qe8 17.e4 Bb7 18.Qb3 Be7 19.Ne1 Nf6 20.Nd3 Rd8 21.Qb2 Qd7 22.e5 Ne4 23.Nxe4 dxe4 24.Nf4 f5 25.exf6 Bxf6 26.Qc2 Bxd4 27.Rxd4

10. = (0.20): 16...Ra8 17.b5 cxb5 18.cxd5 exd5 19.Qc6 Rc8 20.Qxd5 Nb8 21.Ne5 b4 22.Ndc4 Qe7 23.e3 Rfd8 24.Qe4 Rc7 25.Qf4 b5 26.Na5

Oct-14-10
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  kutztown46: After 16. e4


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Analysis by Houdini 1.03a x64 4_CPU (25-ply):

1. = (0.08): 16...g5 17.h3 Bb7 18.Qa4 c5 19.cxd5 exd5 20.e5 Bg7 21.Qxa7 Rc7 22.Nf1 Qe7 23.Qa3 Ra8 24.Qb3 c4 25.Qc2 Rxa2

2. = (0.09): 16...Be7 17.Qb1 Bb7 18.b4 Ba8 19.a3 Re8 20.Qd3 Bb7 21.Qb3 Ba8 22.Ne1 dxe4 23.Nxe4 Qc7 24.Qe3 e5 25.d5

3. = (0.14): 16...Bb7 17.Qa4 a5 18.cxd5 cxd5 19.e5 Be7 20.Bf1 Rc7 21.Nb1 Qc8 22.Rxc7 Qxc7 23.Nc3 Nb8 24.Rc1 Nc6 25.a3 Rc8 26.Qc2

4. = (0.15): 16...g6 17.e5 Bg7 18.cxd5 cxd5 19.Qa4 Nb8 20.Bf1 Bxf1 21.Rxc8 Qxc8 22.Nxf1 Qc7 23.Ne3 Rc8 24.Kg2 Qb7 25.Qb3 h5 26.Qd3

5. = (0.19): 16...h5 17.a3 Bb7 18.Qa4 a6 19.Qb3 a5 20.cxd5 cxd5 21.e5 Be7 22.Bf1 Rc7 23.Bb5 Nb8 24.Rc2 Rxc2 25.Qxc2 Qc8 26.Rc1 Qxc2

6. = (0.23): 16...Nb8 17.b4 Re8 18.Qb3 Bb7 19.a3 Nd7 20.e5 Be7 21.Ne1 Nf8 22.Nd3 Qd7 23.h4 Ng6 24.h5 Nf8

7. = (0.24): 16...Re8 17.cxd5 cxd5 18.Qa4 Be2 19.Rxc8 Qxc8 20.Re1 Bxf3 21.Bxf3 dxe4 22.Nxe4 Qc7 23.Kg2 Rd8 24.Rd1 a5 25.Qb3 Be7 26.Nc3 Nf6 27.Nb5 Qd7 28.Rc1 Nd5 29.Bxd5 Qxd5+

8. = (0.24): 16...c5 17.e5 Be7 18.cxd5 exd5 19.Qa4 Nb8 20.dxc5 bxc5 21.Nc4 d4 22.Nfd2 Qd7 23.Qxd7 Nxd7 24.Re1 Rce8 25.b3 Bb5 26.f4 g5 27.f5

9. ² (0.26): 16...dxc4 17.Nxc4 Qc7 18.Ne3 Rfd8 19.d5 c5 20.Bh3 Nf8 21.Rd2 Bb7 22.Qc4 exd5 23.Nxd5 Bxd5 24.exd5 Rb8 25.b4 Nd7 26.d6 Qb7 27.Qf4 Qa6

10. ² (0.26): 16...Qe8 17.Bf1 Be7 18.Qa4 Bxc4 19.Bxc4 dxc4 20.Qxc4 b5 21.Qc3 Qd8 22.b4 a5 23.a3 axb4 24.axb4 Qb6 25.Nb3 Ra8 26.Nc5 Bxc5 27.dxc5 Qc7 28.Rd6

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  chancho:

1) = (0.09) 16.e4 c5 17.e5 Be7 18.cxd5 exd5 19.Bh3 Bb7 20.Nb3 Kh8 21.Qf5 Bc6 22.Qf4 Qe8 23.Bg2 Qd8 24.Qf5 Qc6

2) = (0.12) 16.e4 Bb7 17.b4 c5 18.exd5 exd5 19.dxc5 bxc5 20.b5 d4 21.Ng5 Bxg5 22.Bxb7 Bxd2 23.Rxd2 Rb8 24.Bg2

3) = (0.21) 16.e4 Be7 17.a3 Bb7 18.b4 c5 19.exd5 exd5 20.dxc5 bxc5 21.b5 d4 22.Ng5 Bxg5 23.Bxb7 Rb8 24.Be4

Depth 21/48 808 kn/s
Fritz 10 Deep position analysis

Oct-15-10
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  LIFE Master AJ: This ran for over 4 hours, the last lines are the deepest.

14: The World - Natalia Pogonina, Chessgames Challenge 2010


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Analysis by Fritz 12:

19...b5 20.exd5 exd5 21.c5 a5 22.Bh3 axb4 23.Ne5 Nxe5 24.Bxc8 Bxc8 25.dxe5 Qa5 26.Nf3 Bg4 = (0.06) Depth: 11/16 00:00:00 263kN

19...Ba8 20.Qb3 a5 21.a3 axb4 22.axb4 b5 23.c5 Bb7 24.Ra1 Ra8 25.Rxa8 Qxa8 26.Qc3 Qa4 27.exd5 exd5 28.Ra1 = (0.02) Depth: 11/34 00:00:00 1499kN

19...Ba8 20.Qb2 c5 21.cxd5 exd5 22.dxc5 bxc5 23.b5 Rb8 24.exd5 Bxd5 25.Ne5 Nxe5 26.Bxd5 Nd3 = (0.01) Depth: 12/31 00:00:01 2487kN

19...Ba8 20.Qb2 b5 21.exd5 exd5 22.cxb5 cxb5 23.Bh3 Bb7 24.Qa3 Bd6 25.Rxe8+ Qxe8 26.Re1 Qd8 27.Qxa7 = (0.09) Depth: 13/32 00:00:01 4243kN

19...b5 20.exd5 exd5 21.c5 a5 22.Bh3 axb4 23.Ne5 Nxe5 24.Bxc8 Bxc8 25.dxe5 Qa5 26.Nf3 Bg4 = (0.06) Depth: 13/32 00:00:01 4248kN

19...b5 20.exd5 exd5 21.c5 a5 22.Bh3 Ra8 23.a4 bxa4 24.b5 Bf6 25.Rxe8+ Qxe8 26.Re1 Qd8 27.b6 = (0.07) Depth: 14/30 00:00:04 10521kN

19...a6 20.a3 Ra8 21.cxd5 cxd5 22.exd5 Bxd5 23.Nc4 Nf6 24.Nfe5 Bxg2 25.Kxg2 b5 26.Nd2 Qxd4 27.Ndf3 Qd5 = (0.06) Depth: 14/35 00:00:07 16412kN

19...a6 20.a3 b5 21.exd5 exd5 22.cxd5 cxd5 23.Rxc8 Bxc8 24.Ne5 Nxe5 25.dxe5 Bb7 26.Qb3 Qd7 27.Rc1 f6 28.Re1 Rc8 29.e6 = (0.13) Depth: 15/37 00:00:16 37192kN

19...Ba8 20.Rc3 a5 21.bxa5 bxa5 22.c5 Qc7 23.Qc2 Bf6 24.e5 Be7 25.Rb3 Rb8 26.Reb1 Rxb3 27.Rxb3 Rb8 = (0.05) Depth: 15/38 00:00:20 47014kN

19...Ba8 20.Bh3 dxc4 21.Nxc4 b5 22.Ne3 a5 23.a3 axb4 24.axb4 Bb7 25.Qb2 Ra8 26.Ra1 Ra4 = (0.02) Depth: 16/40 00:00:43 98002kN

19...Ba8 20.Bh3 dxc4 21.Nxc4 b5 22.Ne3 a5 23.a3 axb4 24.axb4 Bb7 25.Qb3 Nf6 26.Red1 Nxe4 27.Bxe6 fxe6 = (-0.02) Depth: 17/40 00:01:40 229mN

19...Ba8 20.Bh3 dxc4 21.Nxc4 b5 22.Ne3 a5 23.a3 Bb7 24.Qb3 Nf6 25.Red1 axb4 26.axb4 Nxe4 27.Bxe6 fxe6 = (-0.02) Depth: 18/45 00:02:45 378mN

19...Ba8 20.Qb3 a5 21.a3 axb4 22.axb4 b5 23.c5 Bb7 24.Ra1 Qc7 25.Bf1 Ra8 26.Rxa8 Bxa8 27.Ra1 Bb7 28.Bd3 Ra8 29.Rxa8+ Bxa8 30.exd5 = (0.01) Depth: 19/44 00:03:42 508mN

19...Ba8 20.Qb3 a5 21.a3 axb4 22.axb4 b5 23.c5 Bb7 24.Ra1 Qc7 25.Bf1 Ra8 26.Rxa8 Bxa8 27.exd5 exd5 = (-0.02) Depth: 20/47 00:10:51 1510mN

19...Ba8 20.Qb3 a5 21.bxa5 bxa5 22.c5 Rb8 23.Qc2 Qc7 24.Bf1 Nf6 25.e5 Nd7 26.Bd3 Rb7 27.Rb1 Reb8 = (0.03) Depth: 21/46 00:17:43 2477mN

19...Rb8 20.b5 dxe4 21.Nxe4 c5 22.dxc5 Bxe4 23.Qxe4 Nxc5 24.Qe3 Qc7 25.Ne5 Rbd8 26.Rcd1 Bg5 27.f4 = (-0.01) Depth: 21/49 00:31:15 4380mN

19...Rb8 20.b5 dxe4 21.Nxe4 cxb5 22.Qxb5 Qc7 23.Qb3 Rbc8 24.Rc2 Bc6 25.Rc3 f5 26.Ned2 Bf6 27.Rd3 = (-0.09) Depth: 22/54 01:24:04 11764mN

19...Rb8 20.Re3 a6 21.a3 a5 22.bxa5 bxa5 23.Qc2 Bf6 24.Ree1 Be7 25.Re3 = (0.00) Depth: 23/51 02:20:28 19789mN

19...Rb8 20.Qb3 a6 21.a3 a5 22.bxa5 bxa5 23.Qa4 dxe4 24.Nxe4 c5 25.Ne5 Nb6 26.Qxa5 Qxd4 27.Nf3 Qd3 28.Ne5 = (0.00) Depth: 24/54 04:03:43 34142mN

(LM A.J. Goldsby; 15,10,2010.)

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  kutztown46: After 16. b4 Re8


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Analysis by Houdini 1.03a x64 4_CPU (25-ply):

1. = (0.13): 17.e4 Bb7 18.Qb3 Be7 19.a3 dxe4 20.Nxe4 Qc7 21.c5 Red8 22.Qc3 bxc5 23.bxc5 Ba6 24.Ne5 Be2 25.Rd2 Bb5 26.Nc4

2. = (0.11): 17.Qb3 Bb7 18.e4 Be7 19.a3 dxe4 20.Nxe4 Qc7 21.c5 Red8 22.Qc3 bxc5 23.bxc5 Ba6 24.Ne5 Be2 25.Rd2 Bb5 26.Nc4

3. = (0.10): 17.e3 Bb7 18.Qb3 Be7 19.Ne1 e5 20.cxd5 cxd5 21.Bxd5 Bxd5 22.Qxd5 Bxb4 23.Nc4 exd4 24.Nc2 Bc3 25.Nxd4 Rc5 26.Qb7 Rc7 27.Qa6 Bxd4 28.Rxd4 Qe7

4. = (0.08): 17.Qb2 Rc7 18.e4 Bb7 19.e5 Be7 20.c5 Rc8 21.Rb1 Rb8 22.Bf1 a5 23.a3 Qc8 24.Re1 Qc7 25.Bd3

5. = (0.03): 17.Rb1 Rc7 18.a4 e5 19.dxe5 Nxe5 20.Nxe5 Rxe5 21.e3 Bc8 22.Rbc1 Bf5 23.Qb3 Qc8 24.Nf3 Ree7 25.Nd4 Bxd4 26.Rxd4 dxc4 27.Rcxc4 Be6 28.Qd3 Red7 29.Rc1 c5 30.bxc5

6. = (0.00): 17.a3 c5 18.Qa4 Bb7 19.dxc5 bxc5 20.Nb3 Bc6 21.b5 Ba8 22.Qxa7 Rc7 23.Qa4 Qb8 24.Nbd2 Ra7 25.Qb3 Ra5 26.Ne1 Nb6 27.cxd5 exd5 28.Rxc5 Rxe2 29.Bf3 Re7

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  chancho: 1) = (0.06) 16.b4 Qe7 17.Qb3 Bb7 18.Re1 g5 19.e4 g4 20.e5 Bg7 21.Nh4 Rfd8 22.f4 f6 23.Ng6 Qf7

2) = (0.12) 16.b4 Bb7 17.c5 a5 18.a3 Ra8 19.e4 Ba6 20.Nb3 axb4 21.axb4 Bb5 22.cxb6 Qxb6 23.Nc5 Nxc5 24.bxc5

3 )= (0.20) 16.b4 Be7 17.a3 Bb7 18.e4 c5 19.exd5 exd5 20.dxc5 bxc5 21.b5 d4 22.Ng5 Bxg5 23.Bxb7 Rb8 24.Be4 Qc7

Depth 20 469k/s
Fritz 10 Deep position analysis

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  kutztown46: After 16. b4 Be7


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Analysis by Houdini 1.03a x64 4_CPU (26-ply):

1. = (0.18): 17.Qb3 Rc7 18.e4 Bb7 19.c5 Qa8 20.Re1 Rd8 21.a3 dxe4 22.Nxe4 Nf6 23.Rcd1 Rcd7 24.Qc3 Nxe4 25.Rxe4 bxc5 26.bxc5 Bf6 27.Ne5 Bxe5 28.Rxe5 Ba6 29.a4 Qb7

2. = (0.13): 17.a3 Bb7 18.e4 Re8 19.Qb3 dxe4 20.Nxe4 c5 21.Nc3 cxd4 22.Rxd4 Bf6 23.Rdd1 Bxc3 24.Qxc3 Qc7 25.Nd4 a6 26.Bxb7 Qxb7 27.Qf3 Qc7 28.Qe3

3. = (0.07): 17.Rb1 Bb7 18.e4 Qc7 19.c5 Rfd8 20.Bf1 e5 21.cxb6 axb6 22.exd5 exd4 23.dxc6 Bxc6 24.Nxd4 Ne5 25.Nxc6 Qxc6 26.Qxc6 Rxc6 27.Nb3 Rxd1 28.Rxd1 Bxb4 29.Rd8+ Kh7 30.f4

4. = (0.06): 17.Qb2 c5 18.cxd5 exd5 19.bxc5 bxc5 20.e4 dxe4 21.Nxe4 c4 22.Ne5 Rb8 23.Qe2 Nxe5 24.dxe5 Qc7 25.Nc3 Ba3 26.Nd5 Qc5 27.Rc2 Rfe8 28.Qg4 Bc8

5. = (0.02): 17.Qb1 c5 18.cxd5 exd5 19.b5 Bb7 20.e4 Qc7 21.dxc5 Nxc5 22.exd5 Bxd5 23.Nb3 Be6 24.Nfd4 Bg4 25.Bf3 Bxf3 26.Nxf3 Rfe8 27.Nfd4 Bf8 28.Qf5

6. = (-0.03): 17.Qc3 c5 18.bxc5 bxc5 19.cxd5 exd5 20.e4 dxe4 21.Nxe4 cxd4 22.Qxd4 Rxc1 23.Rxc1 Nb6 24.Qc3 Re8 25.Ne5 Bf8 26.Qa5 Bb7 27.Nc3 Bxg2 28.Kxg2 Qd2

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  kutztown46: After 16. b4 g5


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Analysis by Houdini 1.03a x64 4_CPU (25-ply):

1. = (0.17): 17.e3 Qe7 18.Qb3 Bb7 19.Ne1 Bg7 20.Nd3 Qd6 21.c5 Qc7 22.Qa4 Ra8 23.Nb3 Rfc8 24.Rc2 e5 25.Nxe5

2. = (0.08): 17.Qb2 Qe7 18.e3 Bb7 19.Qb3 Ra8 20.e4 Rac8 21.Re1 Rfd8 22.e5 Bg7 23.h3 h5 24.g4 hxg4 25.hxg4 Kf8 26.Rb1

3. = (0.08): 17.Qd3 g4 18.Ne1 Qe7 19.Qa3 Bb7 20.cxd5 exd5 21.Nc2 a5 22.bxa5 Qxa3 23.Nxa3 Rfe8 24.Nc2 bxa5 25.e4 h5 26.e5 Be7 27.Rb1 Rb8

4. = (0.07): 17.h3 Bb7 18.Qb3 Qe7 19.e3 Bg7 20.Ne1 Qd6 21.Nd3 Rfd8 22.c5 Qc7 23.Qa4 Ra8 24.Nb3 Rdb8 25.Rb1 a5 26.bxa5

5. = (0.04): 17.Qc3 Bb7 18.Ne5 Bg7 19.Nxd7 Qxd7 20.c5 Ba6 21.Bf1 Rfe8 22.Nf3 Qb7 23.Rb1 Qe7 24.Ne5 Bxe5 25.dxe5 bxc5 26.bxc5 Bc4 27.e3

6. = (-0.05): 17.g4 Qe7 18.Qb3 Bb7 19.e3 Bg7 20.h3 Qd6 21.e4 Qb8 22.cxd5 exd5 23.Qa4 Rfd8 24.exd5 cxd5 25.Rxc8 Bxc8 26.Re1 a6

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  kutztown46: After 16. b4 Qe7


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Analysis by Houdini 1.03a x64 4_CPU (28-ply):

1. = (0.15): 17.Qb3 Bb7 18.e4 g5 19.Re1 Rb8 20.h3 Rfc8 21.a3 a6 22.Rb1 Ba8 23.Qd3 Bg7 24.c5 a5 25.e5 axb4

2. = (0.10): 17.a3 Bb7 18.e4 g5 19.Rb1 Bg7 20.e5 Rfd8 21.Re1 Ra8 22.h3 a5 23.c5 axb4 24.axb4 Ra7 25.Ra1 Rda8 26.Rxa7 Rxa7 27.Bf1

3. = (0.00): 17.Qb2 dxc4 18.Nxc4 c5 19.b5 Bb7 20.Nfe5 Bd5 21.e3 cxd4 22.exd4 Nxe5 23.Nxe5 Bxg2 24.Kxg2 Bxe5 25.dxe5 Qb7+ 26.f3 Rxc1 27.Rxc1 Qd7 28.Rc6 Qd3 29.Rd6 Qe3 30.a4 Rc8 31.Rc6 Rd8

4. = (0.00): 17.Qb1 c5 18.cxd5 exd5 19.e4 dxe4 20.Nxe4 cxb4 21.Rxc8 Rxc8 22.Re1 Qf8 23.Bh3 Rc7 24.Bxd7 Rxd7 25.Nxf6+ gxf6 26.Qe4 Rd6 27.d5 Bb7 28.Qg4+ Kh7 29.Qxb4 Bxd5 30.Rd1 Qd8 31.Qf4 Rd7

5. = (-0.09): 17.Qc3 dxc4 18.Nxc4 c5 19.Qa3 Bxc4 20.Rxc4 cxb4 21.Qxb4 Qxb4 22.Rxb4 Rc3 23.Bf1 Rfc8 24.Ra4 a5 25.e3 Be7 26.Ba6 R8c7 27.Rb1 Bb4 28.Kg2

6. = (-0.13): 17.Rb1 Rfd8 18.e4 e5 19.dxe5 Nxe5 20.Nxe5 Bxe5 21.exd5 cxd5 22.b5 Bb7 23.Re1 Qf6 24.Re2 Bd4 25.Rbe1 g6 26.Qa4 Rc7 27.Bf3 dxc4 28.Bxb7 Rxb7

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  kutztown46: After 16. b4 h5


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Analysis by Houdini 1.03a x64 4_CPU (25-ply):

1. = (0.20): 17.e4 Bb7 18.h4 Be7 19.Rb1 Rb8 20.Re1 dxc4 21.Nxc4 Qc7 22.Ne3 Rfd8 23.Red1 a5 24.bxa5 bxa5 25.Ng5 c5 26.d5 exd5 27.exd5

2. = (0.17): 17.Qb3 Bb7 18.e4 Be7 19.a3 h4 20.gxh4 Rb8 21.h5 a5 22.exd5 cxd5 23.Ne5 Nxe5 24.dxe5 axb4 25.axb4 Bg5 26.Qg3 Qe7 27.cxd5 exd5 28.f4

3. = (0.15): 17.Qd3 Bb7 18.e4 Be7 19.a3 Re8 20.Re1 Ba6 21.Qc2 Bb7 22.c5 h4 23.Rb1 hxg3 24.hxg3 Qc7 25.Bf1 Ra8 26.Bd3 a5 27.exd5

4. = (0.15): 17.a3 Bb7 18.e4 Re8 19.Qd3 Be7 20.Re1 Ba6 21.Qc2 Bb7 22.c5 h4 23.Rb1 hxg3 24.hxg3 Qc7 25.Bf1 Ra8 26.Bd3 a5 27.exd5

5. = (0.15): 17.h4 Be7 18.a3 Bb7 19.e4 c5 20.exd5 exd5 21.bxc5 bxc5 22.cxd5 cxd4 23.Qb3 Rxc1 24.Rxc1 Nb6 25.Nxd4 Bxd5 26.Bxd5 Qxd5 27.Qxd5 Nxd5 28.a4 g6 29.Nc6 Rc8 30.Nxe7+

6. = (0.14): 17.e3 Bb7 18.Qb3 Re8 19.e4 Be7 20.e5 Nf8 21.Bf1 Ra8 22.c5 Nd7 23.Rb1 h4 24.Qc2 hxg3 25.hxg3 Qc8 26.Qb2 Ba6

7. = (0.14): 17.Qb2 Bb7 18.e4 Be7 19.e5 h4 20.Rc2 hxg3 21.hxg3 Re8 22.Rdc1 Rb8 23.cxd5 exd5 24.Bh3 Nf8 25.a3 a5

8. = (0.11): 17.Qc3 Bb7 18.Qb3 h4 19.e4 hxg3 20.hxg3 Be7 21.e5 Ra8 22.cxd5 cxd5 23.Bf1 Rc8 24.Qb1 a6 25.Bd3 Re8 26.a3

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  kutztown46: After 16. b4 g6


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Analysis by Houdini 1.03a x64 4_CPU (25-ply):

1. = (0.19): 17.Qb3 Bb7 18.e4 Bg7 19.e5 g5 20.Rc2 f6 21.exf6 Qxf6 22.cxd5 cxd5 23.Bh3 Qg6 24.Rxc8 Rxc8 25.Qb1 Qf7 26.Re1 Nf8 27.b5 Rc3 28.Ne5 Bxe5 29.Rxe5 Bc8 30.Kg2

2. = (0.18): 17.e4 g5 18.e5 Bg7 19.Qb3 Bb7 20.Rc2 f6 21.exf6 Qxf6 22.cxd5 cxd5 23.Bh3 Qg6 24.Rxc8 Rxc8 25.Qb1 Qf7 26.Re1 Nf8 27.b5 Rc3 28.Ne5 Bxe5 29.Rxe5 Bc8 30.Kg2

3. = (0.17): 17.e3 Bb7 18.Qb3 Bg7 19.Ne1 b5 20.c5 a5 21.f4 axb4 22.Nd3 Ra8 23.Nxb4 Ra4 24.Rb1 Qa5 25.Re1 Nf6

4. = (0.13): 17.Qb2 Bb7 18.e4 Bg7 19.e5 g5 20.cxd5 cxd5 21.Rxc8 Qxc8 22.Bf1 a6 23.Ne1 Qb8 24.Nd3 Rc8 25.Be2 Bf8 26.a3

5. = (0.12): 17.h4 Bb7 18.e4 Bg7 19.Qb3 Ba8 20.cxd5 cxd5 21.e5 a6 22.Bf1 b5 23.Qa3 Bb7 24.Rxc8 Bxc8 25.Nb3 Nb6 26.Nc5 Nc4 27.Qc3

6. = (0.10): 17.a3 Bb7 18.Qb3 Bg7 19.e4 Rc7 20.Qc2 Rc8 21.Rb1 g5 22.e5 g4 23.Nh4 f6 24.Qg6 Qe8 25.exf6 Nxf6 26.h3 h5 27.Qd3

7. = (0.09): 17.Rb1 g5 18.e3 Qe7 19.Qb3 Rfd8 20.Rbc1 Bb7 21.Ne1 Bg7 22.Nd3 e5 23.cxd5 cxd5 24.Rxc8 Bxc8 25.Nxe5 Nxe5 26.dxe5 Qxe5 27.Nf3 Qc3 28.Qxc3 Bxc3

8. = (0.08): 17.Qd3 Bb7 18.e4 Bg7 19.Qb3 g5 20.h3 Qe7 21.e5 f6 22.exf6 Qxf6 23.cxd5 exd5 24.Nf1 Rce8 25.Ne3 Qe6 26.Re1

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  kutztown46: After 16. b4 Rb8


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Analysis by Houdini 1.03a x64 4_CPU (26-ply):

1. = (0.18): 17.e4 Bb7 18.Qb3 Re8 19.e5 Be7 20.Ne1 a5 21.a3 Ra8 22.Nd3 Nf8 23.Qc3 Qd7 24.Ra1 axb4 25.axb4 Reb8 26.c5 Qc7 27.Bf1 Nd7 28.Nf4 bxc5 29.bxc5

2. = (0.18): 17.a3 Bb7 18.e4 Rc8 19.e5 Be7 20.Qb2 Re8 21.Ne1 Nf8 22.Nd3 Qd7 23.h4 Ng6 24.h5 Nf8 25.Qc3 Bg5

3. = (0.17): 17.Qb3 Bb7 18.e4 Re8 19.e5 Be7 20.Ne1 a5 21.a3 Ra8 22.Nd3 Nf8 23.Qc3 Qd7 24.Ra1 axb4 25.axb4 Reb8 26.c5 Qc7 27.Bf1 Nd7 28.Nf4 bxc5 29.bxc5

4. = (0.15): 17.b5 cxb5 18.cxd5 exd5 19.Qd3 Bb7 20.Qxb5 Rc8 21.e3 Be7 22.Ne5 Rxc1 23.Rxc1 Nxe5 24.dxe5 Qb8 25.Qd7 Bc5 26.Nb3 Rd8 27.Qa4 Bf8 28.Qd4 Rd7

5. = (0.12): 17.e3 Bb7 18.Ne1 Qe7 19.Qb3 Rfd8 20.Nd3 a6 21.a3 Rdc8 22.a4 Rd8 23.Nf4 Bg5 24.Rc2 Bxf4 25.exf4 Nf6 26.c5 bxc5

6. = (0.12): 17.Qb2 Bb7 18.Ne5 Re8 19.cxd5 cxd5 20.e4 Rc8 21.Rxc8 Qxc8 22.Rc1 Qd8 23.exd5 exd5 24.f4 Nxe5 25.dxe5 Be7 26.Nf1 f6 27.Rd1 fxe5 28.fxe5 Bf8 29.Ne3 Qg5

7. = (0.10): 17.Qd3 Be7 18.Qb3 Bb7 19.Ne1 a5 20.b5 Nf6 21.Nd3 dxc4 22.Rxc4 cxb5 23.Qxb5 Nd5 24.Rcc1 Qe8 25.Qb3 Bc6 26.Qb2 Ba4 27.Re1 Qb5 28.Bxd5

8. = (0.09): 17.Rb1 Bb7 18.e4 Be7 19.a3 Re8 20.c5 a5 21.Bf1 Qc7 22.e5 axb4 23.axb4 Ra8 24.Ra1 Reb8 25.Nb3 bxc5 26.bxc5

Oct-16-10  MTuraga: I analyzed the following variations in-depth
16. b4
(A) 16…Qe7 17. Qb3 bb7 18. e4 g5 19. e5
(here engine room 2 (ER2) variation says 19. Re1 which I shall analyze next) 19…Bg7
Here there are a few branches to consider: 20 Re1; 20. cxd5 (A1) 20. Re1 g4 21. Nh4 Qg5 (threatens the knight on e2) 22. Qd3 Ba6 23. f4 gxf3 24. Nhxf3 (here are there are 2 branches 24…Qg4 and 23…Qe7)
24…Qe7 25. Qa3 (threatens the bishop on a6) Bb7 26. Qxa7 (White nabbed a pwan) Rc7 27. cxd5 exd5 28. Qa3 (has to retreat otherwise it may be trapped on the a-file by Black’s rooks) Qe6 (if 28…Ra8 White has the advantage after 38th move) 29. Qd3 (important branch here, Other moves equalize for Black) Ra8 30. Qb3 Rcc8 31. Kh1 Ra7 32. a4! Rca8 33. a5 bxa5 34. Bc8 Qc3 35. Rxa5 36. Qxc6 Nb6 37. Nb3 Ra3 38. Qc2 Nc4 39. Nfd2 Ra2 40 Qc3 Nxd2 (1.34)

White is a pawn plus and may look forward to the end game with optimism. So 16…Qe7 need not be feared in this variation.


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Now coming to the following variation suggested by ER2: 19. Re1 (A2) 16…Qe7 17. Qb3 bb7 18. e4 g5 19. Re1 (suggested in Engine Room 2) Bg7 (here ER2 suggests Rb8 but Fritz10 does not even consider it) 20. e5 c5 21. bxc5 dxc4 22.Nxc4 g4 23. c6 Bxc6 24. Nh4 Bxg2 25. Kxg2 Rfd8 26. Nd6 Rxc1 27. Rxc1 Bxe5 ? (sacs a bishop for 2 pawns) 28. dxe5 Nxe5 29. Ne4 Qb7 30. Re1 Nd3 31. Re3 Nc5 32. Qc4 Kh7 33. Kf1 f5 34. Nf6 Kg7 35. Nh5+ Kh7 36. f3 Rd1+ 37. Kf2 Qf7 (+1.48)

Black sacrificed a bishop for 2 pawns.

So White is Ok in this line also.


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Oct-16-10  MTuraga: A positional battle ends with a win for White.

16. b4 Bb7 line:

16. b4 Bb7 17.c5 a5 18.a3 axb4 19. axb4 Ba6 (Black succeeds in keeping her bishop active) 20.e4 Ra8 21.Ra1 Qc7 22.Ra3 Bb5 23.Rda1 Rxa3 24. Rxa3 Rd8 25.e5 Be7 26.Nb3 Rb8 27.cxb6 Rxb6 28.Nc5 Rb8 29.h3 Bc4 30.Qc3 Be2 31.Ra1 Bc4 32.Kh2 Bb5 33.Ra2 Nxc5 34.dxc5 Bc4 35.Ra3 Bd8 36.Qe1 Bg5 37.Nd4 h5 38.h4 Be7 39.Bf3 g6 40.Ra4 Re8 41.Qe3 Rb8 42.Be2 Bxe2 43.Qe2 Qc8 44.g4 hxg4 45.Qxg4 Bf8 46.Qg5 Bg7 47.Kg2 Qb7 48.h5 gxh5 49.Ra3 h4 50.Rb3 Qc7 51.Qxh4 Rc8 52.Re3 Re8 53.Rg3 Qxe5 54.Nxc6 Qc7 55.b5 Kf8 56.Qh7 f5 57. b6 Qf7 58. Ra3 Qf6 59.Qh5 Qh6 60.Qxh6 Bxh6 (6.14)


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I shall try to explain the various phases of the game with separate posts. Please have patience.

Oct-16-10  MTuraga: Phase 1: White has to restrain Black’s bishop pair and should not allow the centre to become open by pawn exchanges.

16. b4 Bb7 17.c5 a5 18.a3 axb4 19. axb4 Ba6 (Black succeeds in keeping her bishop active) 20.e4 Ra8 21.Ra1 Qc7 22.Ra3 Bb5 23.Rda1 Rxa3 24. Rxa3 Rd8 25.e5 Be7

Phase 1 completed. Centre is closed but not permanently. Black succeeds in keeping her LSB outside the pawn chain. White's Rook is occupying the open a-file.


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Oct-16-10  MTuraga: Phase 2: Try to obtain a favorable pawn structure for the endgame. 26.Nb3 Rb8 27.cxb6 Rxb6 28.Nc5 Rb8 29.h3 Bc4 30.Qc3 Be2 31.Ra1 Bc4 32.Kh2 Bb5 33.Ra2 Nxc5 34.dxc5 Bc4 35.Ra3 Bd8 36.Qe1 Bg5 37.Nd4 h5

Phase 2 completed.

Black’s pawns are immobile in the center and blocked as in the Nimzo-Indian defense. Now White’s knight is superior to Black’s bishops although they are active. White should proceed to the end game with suitable exchanges. Black is pushing the king side pawns to obtain some counter play.


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Oct-16-10  MTuraga: Phase 3: White should judiciously exchange pieces so as to increase the advantage of knight over bishop and start attacking the king side to create further weaknesses in Black’s position.

38.h4 Be7 39.Bf3 g6 40.Ra4 Re8 41.Qe3 Rb8 42.Be2 Bxe2 43.Qe2 Qc8 44.g4 hxg4 45.Qxg4 Bf8 46.Qg5 Bg7

Phase 3 completed.

White’s knight is superior to black’s bishop and White’s attack on the king side is under way. Black’s pieces are tied down to the back rank and are passive.


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Oct-16-10  MTuraga: Phase 4: Proceed towards the end game while keeping Black’s pieces passive. White should exchange pieces and enter a favorable end game.

46.Qg5 Bg7 47.Kg2 Qb7 48.h5 gxh5 49.Ra3 h4 50.Rb3 Qc7 51.Qxh4 Rc8 52.Re3 Re8 53.Rg3 Qxe5 54.Nxc6 Qc7 55.b5 Kf8

Phase 4 completed.

White has 2 dangerous passed pawns on the queen side.


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Oct-16-10  MTuraga: Phase 5:
Win the end game by pushing the passed pawns and promote them to royalty.

56.Qh7 f5 57. b6 Qf7 58. Ra3 Qf6 59.Qh5 Qh6 60.Qxh6 Bxh6 61.Kf3 Kf7 62.b7 Bf8 63.Ra8 Bxc5 (+14)

Mission accomplished. White’s b-pawn (which was hotly debated before pushing it to b4) cannot be stopped and Black can resign.

THE b-pawn WINS FINALLY.

Could we see this when we pushed it to 16. b4????


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Oct-16-10  Garech: <Mturaga>

Really good effort and analysis, this is great for the team - thank you.

I have a few suggestions:

In your first line, after

<(A) 16…Qe7 17. Qb3 bb7 18. e4 g5 19. e5 (here engine room 2 (ER2) variation says 19. Re1 which I shall analyze next) 19…Bg7>

black must give serious consideration to playing f6 at some point, with counterplay, instead of sitting passively.

In the diagram you posted after

<White is a pawn plus and may look forward to the end game with optimism. So 16…Qe7 need not be feared in this variation.>

Black has a lot of positional trumps as compensation for the pawn, I.e. complete control of the a file, bishop pair on a fairly open board and potential to play the pawn sac Ne4!? leading to very sharp play. In the hands of a GM the black pieces could be very dangerous in this position.

In your next variation, with:

<Now coming to the following variation suggested by ER2: 19. Re1 (A2) 16…Qe7 17. Qb3 bb7 18. e4 g5 19. Re1 (suggested in Engine Room 2) Bg7 (here ER2 suggests Rb8 but Fritz10 does not even consider it) 20. e5 c5>

black is allowed to play c5 - this must be stopped! Also, again here black has f6!? with counterplay. IMO black is plaiyng too passively and planlessly in these variations. My engine is tied up so I cannot examine the bishop sac, but I'm sure black has strong ideas to play in this position.

Personally, I doubt we will see 16...Bb7 (your next variation) - maybe tonight we will find out. In this line you posted

<16. b4 Bb7 17.c5 a5 18.a3 axb4>

18...axb4 doesn't achieve much. It's better to double rooks on the a file (or at least play Ra8) before making this capture. This encourages white to play cxb6 instead, which is weakening.

Also in that variation, <24. Rxa3 Rd8> makes little sense if white is allowed to play e5. It would be better for black to play dxe4 and then Rd8, but this is not good either. There are more useful posts for the rook than d8 (unless black is trying to provoke e5 - but I don't see why, because the main idea of provoking this is to play f6 - which makes less sense if the rook has moved from f8).

Your next line:

<26.Nb3 Rb8 27.cxb6 Rxb6 28.Nc5 Rb8 29.h3 Bc4 30.Qc3 Be2 31.Ra1 Bc4 32.Kh2 Bb5 33.Ra2 Nxc5 34.dxc5 Bc4 35.Ra3 Bd8 36.Qe1 Bg5 37.Nd4 h5>

Features some strange play. ...Rb8 27.cxb6 Rxb6 simply would not happen. cxb6 is a terrible move and black would answer Nxb6 in order to a) not give white initiative (with Nc5) and b) exploit the c4 square.

The remaining play again seems planless. Why isn't black targeting white's weak b4 pawn - backward on an open file (another argument against cxb6 - probably the main argument, in fact).

Also, instead of "pushing the kingside pawns" to gain counterplay, black should be challenging white's a file control (which white shouldn't have anyway!) and gaining heavy piece activity on the queenside. For example in the diagram beneath your comment:

<Phase 3 completed.

White’s knight is superior to black’s bishop and White’s attack on the king side is under way. Black’s pieces are tied down to the back rank and are passive>

black should play Ra8 instead of Bg7. Like I said I can't check this with an engine (or even a board, at the moment) but as long as this manoeuvre is safe, given the kingside situation, black should defintely be doing this - or at least *something* active.

Which engine are you using? Perhaps you have the settings on "defensive" or something?

In your final two diagrams, of course white is winning - but there is no way black would let this happen, especially when black is GMP with a team of analysts and engines.

Sorry - I don't mean to shoot down your hard work, but I have to be blunt - black has much better play than what you posted.

-Garech

Oct-16-10  MTuraga: <Garech: Sorry - I don't mean to shoot down your hard work, but I have to be blunt - black has much better play than what you posted.> I agree that Black may play differently especially when we look at an analysis of 60 moves deep.

You please analyze the way you look at it and post it, so that it is easy to come to a consensus instead of arguing without any analysis.

As I said I cannot convince anybody to vote for a move when the results come out after 60 moves. Can you help in working out the lines for Black by playing more actively? There is no benefit for the team if we are simply expressing opinions.

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