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| Aug-20-09 | | Jim Bartle: Anybody catch the line for the Cards' pitcher Reyes last night? Came in to start the ninth, hit the batter with his first pitch, and was taken out. |
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Aug-20-09
 | | Phony Benoni: <A.G. Argent> Mantle was incredibly fast as a young player. Remember him being called "The Commerce Comet"? The general legend is that he could get from home-to-first in 3.1 seconds, and Casey Stengel once claimed to have timed him at 2.9. However, no indisputable evidence of this seems to exist. By comparison, Ichiro Suzuki, who is generally considered to be among the fastest down the line these days, has been reliably timed at 3.7. The rational statheads of today doubt that Mantle could have been a full half-second faster, but there's nothing to prove he wasn't either. |
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Aug-20-09
 | | Phony Benoni: This might be the game in the video: http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/... Mays looks safe to me, but hey, Robinson knew all about being safe at home. Just ask Yogi Berra. |
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Aug-20-09
 | | Phony Benoni: Speaking of which:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XY-...
The Dodger hitter, by the way, is <Frank Kellert>. Me neither. |
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| Aug-20-09 | | Jim Bartle: Nice work, PB!
Ichiro ought to be quick to first base. Usually looks like he's taken a step or two before he even hits the ball. |
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| Aug-20-09 | | Jim Bartle: Big tiebreak game tonight! Dodgers and Cubs tied at 1014-1014 all-time. |
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Aug-20-09
 | | Phony Benoni: All right! An exciting conclusion to their best-of-2029 series. |
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| Aug-21-09 | | Travis Bickle: I seem to remember Ralph Garr being super fast from home to first. |
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Aug-21-09
 | | Phony Benoni: Ah yes, the Road Runner.
Don't forget that Jim Thorpe played MLB for a few years; he would have been right up there, except that he was a right-handed hitter. However, the fastest of all might have been Herb Washington, had he ever had a reason to run from home to first. |
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| Aug-21-09 | | Jim Bartle: The other night I heard some announcer, a former player, say he had never seen a player as fast as Deion Sanders. But his examples were in the field, not on the bases. Said he would misjudge fly balls but just catch up with his amazing speed. In the 60s Willie Davis was generally considered the fastest players in the majors. |
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| Aug-21-09 | | A.G. Argent: Jim Thorpe played baseball? Where? Don't recall that being in the movie. Maybe, being as how Burt Lancaster did all his own stunts, he couldn't hit a curve ball. |
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| Aug-21-09 | | playground player: Jim Thorpe not only played major league baseball--he played for the Giants! His stats aren't all that great, but it was the dead ball era and they probably don't reflect his true value to the team. |
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Aug-21-09
 | | Phony Benoni: <A.G. Argent> Neither could Jim Thorpe. http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/...
He finally seemed to be catching on his last year. Maybe he just couldn't hit wartime pitching. As I recall, he quit baseball when the NFL was formed in 1920. Notice that little blip in 1917 when the Giants sent him to Cincinnati, only to have him returned later in the year? Soon after the transaction, he was involved in the double no-hitter between Fred Toney and Hippo Vaughn on May 2. Both pitchers threw no-hit ball for nine innings, but in the 10th Vaughn finally gave up a hit. The runner reached third base with Thorpe up. He hit a high chopeer down the third base line. According to Vaughn's account, he fielded the ball, but "...knew I couldn't throw out Thorpe at first; he was as fast as a race horse." So he threw home in time to get the runner from third, but the catcher was so surprised to get the ball that he dropped it. Toney then finished off his no-hitter in the bottom of the 10th. |
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| Aug-21-09 | | technical draw: Jim Thorpe? He's lucky he wasn't born in a Spanish speaking country. |
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Aug-21-09
 | | Phony Benoni: Actually, he was born in Prague. |
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| Aug-21-09 | | Jim Bartle: Nice. I had to look it up. |
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| Aug-21-09 | | Jim Bartle: Yankees 20, Boston 11?
And the Yankee announcer says, "It was the offense that won this one." |
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Aug-21-09
 | | Phony Benoni: Sharp analysis from the Bronx. Doesn't sound like a defensive struggle. Weren't the Red Sox 8-0 versus the Yankees earlier this year? That seems to be over! |
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| Aug-22-09 | | Jim Bartle: Now 8-5. |
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Aug-22-09
 | | Phony Benoni: Mickey Mantle clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvAH... About 25 seconds in, he beats out an infield hit. No stopwatch, but it seemed under four seconds--and he was hitting right-handed. Mute button recommended. |
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| Aug-22-09 | | Travis Bickle: Mr. Benoni here's a short clip of The Babe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB1Z... |
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| Aug-22-09 | | A.G. Argent: P, yeah, he was literally a blur crossing the frame and first base, wasn't he. Just flyin'. And that is one of THE most inane of all those baseball ditties they ever had that accompanied footage in those days. But just goes to show just how much baseball was ingrained in the pop culture of the era. But where do you think they showed those things? In movie theatres with newsreels and the like? S'pose so. |
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| Aug-22-09 | | playground player: <Phony Benoni> Thanks for the Mantle clip! It brings back memories. Have I misperceived something, or did Mantle hit most of his right-handed home runs to the opposite field? It certainly looks that way in the clip. Very smart thing for a RH hitter to do in the old Yankee Stadium. |
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Aug-22-09
 | | Phony Benoni: <playground player: Have I misperceived something, or did Mantle hit most of his right-handed home runs to the opposite field?> Some quick checking around seems to indicate that might be partially true. Good ol' BaseballReference.com gives some statistics about Mantle's home runs here: http://www.baseball-reference.com/p... Now, Mantle hit 373 HRs against right-handed pitching, which means 373 left-handed, and 163 right-handed. That's a ratio of about 2.29 to 1. Of the home runs whose locations are known, he hit 289 to right or right-center, 117 to left or left-center. That's about 2.47 to 1. If Mantle were a pure pull hitter from both sides, the ratios would be closer. As it is, there seems a slight tendency in favor of right field. However, it should be noted that most of the "unknown" locations were probably from 1951-1953, early in his career. That may affect the question one way or the other. |
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| Aug-22-09 | | Jim Bartle: How far was it to left-center at Yankee Stadium in the 50s? |
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