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Pierre Charles Fournier de Saint Amant vs Howard Staunton
Staunton-Saint Amant (1843)  ·  Tarrasch Defense: Symmetrical Variation (D40)  ·  1-0
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Feb-01-05  offramp: 32.b5 is a bit of a wacky one, as is the reply Qh5. Why not take the queen with Rxd4 and then play g5?
Feb-08-05  catfriend: 32..R:Qd4 33.e:Rd4 g5 34.f:g6 e.p.
It mayb become rather dangerous for the black sovereign.
Jun-30-05  paul dorion: 32...Rxd4 33 exd4 Qxc1 (pins Rd1 so Re8+ does not work) 34 Rxc1 Rxc1+ 35 Kg2 Kf8 36 Kxh3 and can White do something with his extra pawn?
Jun-30-05  paul dorion: 32 ... Rxd4 33 exd4 g5 34 fxg6ep Qxc1 and black will have a piece for three pawns Who is better?
Jan-21-07  wolfmaster: Poor opening play by both White and Black: both Saint Amant and Staunton move their bishops twice in the first 10 moves.
Jan-21-07  wolfmaster: paul dorion, I think that three pawns is almost always better than a knight and three pawns is about 40% of the time better than a bishop
Feb-26-07  HOTDOG: this was the 9th game of the match,with Staunton ahead +7 =1 -0. Black has a won position at move 31,due first of all to the horrible 20.f4? that weakens e3,e4 and the castling. 32.b5!? is a desperate move,now after 32...Rxd4 33.exd4 Qd6 34.Re8+ Rxe8 35.Rxe8+ Qf8 36.Rxf8+ Kxf8 37.Kg2 and the Nh3 is lost. After 32...Bd1!! 33.Rxd1 Rxd4 34.exd4 Qh5 35.Be3 Qf3+ 36.Ke1 Re8 37.Kd2 Nf2 Black wins,according to Bernstein. however after 32...Qh5? 33.g4! Black has still an advantage after 33...Qh4 34.Qxa4 Rxd3. The decisive mistake was 33...Rxd4??
Apr-10-08  Knight13: Black messed up after 27...Ng5, n'est ce pas? Not the correct follow-up.

<The decisive mistake was 33...Rxd4??> He must've missed the back-rank stuff. But even seeing that it's a material throw-away-for-suicide.

<Black has a won position at move 31> I don't know I like White at that point. But that's because I would never take that a-bishop of Black's. :-D

Feb-05-12  Knight13: Why 25... Ng5? 25... Bb8 is better.
Aug-22-12  Polerio: 32.b5 is a blunder. Staunton thought for 7 minutes here before playing the losing 32...Qh5. He had to find the thunderbolt 32...Bd1!! and White must resign!
Aug-22-12  thomastonk: <Polerio> May I ask where do got your information on the reflection time? Thank you in advance.

BTW, I don't think that 32.b5 is a blunder, not even a mistake, because White is completely lost anyway. I would rather call 32.. Qh5 a blunder and surely 33.. Rxd4, because here the mistakes are really obvious.

And then I think your thunderbolt (or is it Bernstein's? - see <HOTDOG>'s kibitzing) is a non-starter: 32.. Bd1? 33.Rxd1 and Black has only a slight advantage after 33.. Qh5. However, 33.. Rxd4 34. exd4 g5! is winning, say 35.fxg6 Qh5!

Aug-23-12  Polerio: My information comes from an old book:"World,s Best Chess" by Jens Enevoldsen, Copenhagen 1966. The game lasted 8 hours, St.Amant using 6 of them and Staunton 2. By the way, on 33.Rxd1 Black can safely play 33...Rxd4.
Aug-23-12  thomastonk: <Polerio> Thank you very much for the reference! Does Enevoldsen gives a 19th century source?

<By the way, on 33.Rxd1 Black can safely play 33...Rxd4.> Sorry, my variation was incomplete: 32.. Bd1? 33.Rxd1 Rxd4 34. exd4 Qh5 and Black is only slightly better. I had checked this with a silicon friend yesterday.


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