|Feb-06-05|| ||Helloween: According to Ftacnik, this entire game had been analyzed by Kasparov prior to the line being played OTB. The whole perpetual draw bailout with Rf3 idea is based on White not playing 23.Qxe3? Bxe3 |
Still a very exciting encounter though. Wonderful opening prep by Kasparov.
|Dec-28-05|| ||csmath: Brilliant game.
23. Qxe3 is not an error, it has been played in Cazorla
Kramnik vs Shirov, 1998
which resulted in a draw as well but could have been better for white.
|Dec-28-05|| ||suenteus po 147: <Helloween> & <csmath> Fantastic game. Thanks for "drawing" attention to it :)|
|Jul-01-08|| ||apexin: excellent game by both players.|
|Jan-23-11|| ||KingG: The whole 31...h6, 32...Kh7, 33...Rf3 manoeuvre is fantastic, although without preparing with a computer I'm not sure anyone would play like this.|
|Feb-09-12|| ||plang: 12 Bxf7+ (Seville Variation) was popular for awhile after being played several times in the 1987 Kasparov-Karpov match. Through 25 Qe8+ the game followed Van Wely-Shirov Delgrade 1999 (European Cup Final). Shirov played 25..Rf8 and was fortunate to draw after a difficult defense. 25..Bf8, Kasparovs improvement, had been analysed by Van Wely as inadequate for Black but Kasparov had found hidden resources. 33 e7? would have been refuted by 33..Rf1+ 34 Rxf1..Qxf1+ 35 Kh2..Be5+ and White gets mated.|
|Aug-13-13|| ||csmath: Prior to this game Kramnik already expressed opinion that 23. Qxe3 would not yield anything to white. I was (again and again) analizing that Cazorla (3) game and could not find anything either.|
Thus this game follows logical path with a different choice.
This old Van Wely's game is actually new to me even though I am a Gruenfeld player and always check Van Wely's game for novelties, thanks to <plang> for noticing that.
Kasparov clearly had an improvement here over what Shirov played (25. ...Rf8 which is exactly what I would play, darn!). This is counterintuitive since the whole black play is on black squares and yet it seems 25. ...Rf8 is not a good move.
Tremendeous work by both Kasparov and Kramnik.
|Aug-13-13|| ||csmath: However this game was played in the beginning of March of 1999. Wasn't that European Cup in Belgrade in summer of 1999?|
|Sep-01-13|| ||plang: Quote from Dirk Jan ter Geuzendam:
"...The first player to stop Kasparov with the White pieces was Vladimir Kramnik, but there was little to rejoice about. Kramnik,too, must have been plagued by an annoying feeling that his opponent uncovered a shortcoming in his opening preparation. Again Kasparov had delved considerably deeper into a line that both players had subjected to closer study. The improvement that Kasparov came up with, Kramnik had spotted as well, but in a case of pre-game time trouble he had discontinued his investigations when he reached a position that that his computer proclaimed winning for White. This position Kasparov had reached as well, but again he didn't take the computer at its word, and again he was right, for he found a subtle defensive set-up that at least guaranteed him half a point...."
<csmath: However this game was played in the beginning of March of 1999. Wasn't that European Cup in Belgrade in summer of 1999?>
Yes, I believe you are right.
|Sep-01-13|| ||Nerwal: The Van Wely - Shirov game was played at this event : http://www.olimpbase.org/1998c/1998.... According to Chessbase it was played on 01/13/1999.|
|Sep-01-13|| ||plang: Thanks for the research - I am lazy today|
|Sep-22-13|| ||ColdSong: So what kind of computer can proclaim a position winning if it's not? Nowadays, Houdini or Rybka,in which I think one can be confident,can certainly assess if Kasparov's prowess in this game is sound or not.|