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| Aug-31-03 | | Larsker: Anand had prepared move 9. -, Nb4! which was a novelty in this position. "This stunning novelty was described by Gelfand as one of the best he had ever had to face" (World Greatest Chess Games) After move 11. -, g6: "Gelfand sank into lengthy thought during which he seems to have convinced himself that he was completely lost. This is an exaggeration, but I think that Black is already slightly better." (Anand) |
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| Sep-01-03 | | mkdir: vishy had a won position in 18 moves...as always great play by vishy |
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| Feb-22-04 | | vishya: one of the most fascinating novelties in the modern era. i think it takes an effort by itself to come up with a novelty apart from the many hours of analysis. i'm surprised this game hasnt been commented on more than twice |
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| Feb-22-04 | | vishya: couldnt resist it.but i must say that this is OUTSTANDING stuff |
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| Feb-22-04 | | chessfritz1: Whats wrong with 13. ♗e3 followed by 14. ♕c2 |
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| Mar-12-04 | | vishyanand: Is Anand's 9-Nb4! sound in all cases? |
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| Mar-12-04 | | Reisswolf: Actually, it is not. I have a wonderful line that completely refutes the sacrifice, but this margin is too small to contain it. |
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| Mar-12-04 | | fatbaldguy: <Reisswolf> LOL. I guess we'll have to wait for the guy who solved Fermat's theorem to publish your line as well... |
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| Mar-12-04 | | Reisswolf: <I guess we'll have to wait for the guy who solved Fermat's theorem to publish your line as well...> A few years ago I actually heard the guy, Prof. Andrew Wiles, speak. He was extremely secretive about his efforts to solve Fermat's Last Theorem. In recent years he has begun to give courses in analytic number theory--even though his speciality is actually algebraic number theory--and so there is a lot of speculation that he is secretly trying to solve an even more difficult, and centrally important, problem in mathematics: Riemann's Hypothesis. Fermat's Last Theorem, in itself, is an unimportant result. It is very fortunate that Wiles actually proved (a restricted case of) the Taniyama-Shimura conjecture, and showed that it implied Fermat's Last Theorem. It's too bad that his initial proof was slightly incorrect. By the time he fixed it and re-published it, he was too old to be considered for the Fields Medal. (The ICM did award a special medal to him, though.) |
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| Mar-12-04 | | vishyanand: Isnt the fields medal some kind of award like the nobel prize in mathematics? |
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| Mar-12-04 | | Reisswolf: The Fields Medal is the highest recognition of intellectual accomplishment, because mathematics is the highest form of intellectual endeavour. |
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| Mar-13-04 | | notsodeepthought: <Reisswolf>: I'll stay out of the debate regarding which form of intellectual endeavour (maths, chess, bio-organic chemistry, predicting the weather, etc.) is the highest. But I heard that the only reason there is no Nobel prize in Mathematics - which is arguably why the Fields medal is the highest award in the area - is that Nobel's wife ran away with a mathematician. Entertaning story, if true... |
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| Mar-13-04 | | InspiredByMorphy: This game is awesome! What did Anand have for breakfast that morning, cause I want some! |
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| Mar-13-04 | | shadowmaster: The story that Nobel did not establish a prize for mathematics because of an alleged affair of his wife is untrue because Nobel never married. http://www.pbs.org/kqed/nobel/sttim... http://www.snopes.com/science/nobel... |
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| Mar-13-04 | | Reisswolf: That is the story, at least. Nobel did not have a wife, but he did have a love interest. I don't think she ran away with another man, but Nobel apparently found out that his lover was having an affair with the Swedish mathematician Gustav Mittag-Leffler. Nobel was so angry that he decided that his endowment should not be used to reward mathematicians. However, the founding documents could not contain a clause as petty as that. Therefore, it was decided that the prize should be given to work that has "great practical significance to humanity." Since mathematics is an abstract subject, which depends on agencies such as physics, computer science, statistics, and numerous other fields, for its "practical applications," it was excluded as an eligible subject for the Prize. |
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| Mar-13-04 | | shadowmaster: Lol, the story of the affair is apparently too appealing to let things like lack of evidence get in the way. From the second link I posted above: "The "wife" theory is easily discounted, since Nobel was never married. Some variations of the legend claim it was Nobel's fiancée or mistress who was carrying on the affair, with her partner in infidelity identified as the eminent Swedish mathematician Gosta Mittag-Leffler. Nobel reportedly did have a mistress, a Viennese woman named Sophie Hess, but there is no evidence she ever had anything to do with Mittag-Leffler." |
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| Mar-13-04 | | drukenknight: what kind of proof is that? He had a mistress A, of whom we have no evidence of affair w/ X. What about mistresses, B, C, D and E? Proving such a negative is notoriously difficult anyhow, but taking one case and trying to conjecture for all is just not complete. |
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| Mar-13-04 | | drukenknight: in the game what if 14 Ke3? |
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| Mar-13-04 | | shadowmaster: Drukenknight, the point is that the original story is completely refuted and that the love interest variant has no credible evidence to support it. |
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| Mar-13-04 | | drukenknight: what if Queen to Professor's Office 3? |
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| Mar-14-04 | | vishyanand: LOL, Nobel must have exploded like "dynamite" when he heard about the affair. |
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| Mar-16-04 | | Andrew Chapman: <"Whats wrong with 13.Be3 followed by 14.Qc2?" (Chessfritz1)>
Nb4+ wins the queen, if I understand your suggeston correctly. |
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| Mar-16-04 | | gerando: 12 g3 or 12 Kg3 would have been better for white. A safer option would also have been 7 Bd2. |
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| Mar-16-04 | | informeddissent: vishy: <"Is Anand's 9-Nb4! sound in all cases?"> Interestingly enough I looked and Anand lost a game at the same tournament on the exact same variation. Beliavsky vs Anand, 1993
His opponent declined the sacrifice. |
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| Mar-16-04 | | vishyanand: Good job informeddissent!
Interesting game <informeddissent> but in that game, Anand never offered his knight as a sacrifice for his opponent to decline. |
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sac: 9...Nb4