Jul-30-04 | | Knight13: Great Game! Interesting King attacks on the king side. |
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Jul-30-04
 | | Chessical: Wisker's <13.e5> gives away f5 to Bird's N. After <22...Ng3+> 23.Nxg3 hxg3 24.Rgf1 Rxh2+ 25.Kg1 Bxb4 26.Qd3 White has a miserable position but he could still play on. Perhaps the less spectacular but possibly more effective: <22...h3> 23.Bf1 Nxe5! 24.dxe5 Qxe5 25.Bf2 Qe4+ was rejected as having less impact on the opponent? |
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Jul-31-05
 | | wwall: Does 22.Bf4 hold, instead of 22.b4? Or even 22.Nf4 Ng3+ 23.hxg3 hxg3+ 24.Bh3 |
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Aug-08-05
 | | beatgiant: <wwall>
After 22. Bf4 h3, Black can at least win the exchange for a pawn: 22. Bf4 h3 23. Bf1 Nh4 24. Rg3 Nf3 25. Qe3 Bh4, etc.Black also has some other interesting attacks like 22. Bf4 h3 23. Bf1 Rf8, or 22. Bf4 h3 23. Bf1 Qg6. In short, Black would still have a strong advantage after 22. Bf4. |
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Aug-08-05
 | | beatgiant: <wwall>
On 22. Nf4, Black probably keeps building up with 22...Qg8 23. Rgd1 Rf8, etc. and I doubt White can hold on for long. |
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Aug-08-05
 | | beatgiant: <Chessical>
On the suggested 22...h3 23. Bf1 Nxe5, White has the swischenzug 24. Nf4! Qf6 25. dxe5 Qxe5 26. Qd3! Qxa1 27. Qxf5+ Kc8 28. Ne6, threatening both Nxd8 and Bd4, so White comes out a piece ahead.I think Bird's 22...Ng3+, winning three pawns, was the most effective. |
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Aug-09-05
 | | Chessical: <Beatgiant> Thank you for your analysis. I believe, however, that there is merit in: <22...h3>. Thus: <23.Bf1> Nxe5 24.Nf4 Qf6 25.dxe5 Qxe5 26.Qd3, but here instead of capturing immediately on <a1> Black has: <26... Nxe3> 27.Ng6 Qxa1 28.Nxe7+ Kb8 29.Qxe3 Qf6. |
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Aug-09-05
 | | beatgiant: <Chessical>
Good point. If I count right, your last line ends with Black having rook and two pawns for two minor pieces.White can also try 22...h3 23. Bf1 Nxe5 24. Nf4 Qf6 25. dxe5 Qxe5 <26. Bd3>, which might lead to 26...Nxe3 27. Ng6 Qg5 28. Nxh8 Rxh8, and Black has two pawns and a good knight post for the exchange. In contrast, in the earlier line where you posted that <White has a miserable position but he could still play on>, Black has two extra pawns and big threats down the h-file. Black might even try 22...Ng3+ 23.Nxg3 hxg3 24.Rgf1 Rxh2+ 25.Kg1 <Rdh1> 26. b5, and now 26...Qg8!? 27. bxc6 Rh1+ 28. Bxh1 Rxh1+, although I couldn't quickly solve the complications after 29. Kg2! Rh2+ 30. Kxg3 Qh8. If not, at least Black can play a knight retreat on the 26th, and ...Qg8 remains a huge threat. In short, I like Bird's move ;-) |
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Dec-27-14 | | poorthylacine: After 22. Nf4 as suggested by beatgiant, White can hold the position and maybe even win after 22...Qg8 23.Bh3 Ng3+ 24.hxg3 with an incredible complicated situation, for instance 24...gxh3 25.gxh4...
If 22...Qf7, then 23.Rgf1 and the position is really unclear! |
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Dec-27-14 | | poorthylacine: Beatgiant, in your last variant after 22...Nxg3 23.Nxg3 hXg3 24.Rgf1 Rxh2 25. Kg1 Rdh8 26.b5 Qg8 (26...Qg6 would be even more effective), White cannot take by 27.bxc6 because of 27...Qh7! 28.cxb7+ Kb8!! and Black has won.Instead that, your idea of 27...Rh1+ would meet meet the answer 28.Bxh1 and if then 28...Rxh1, simply 29.Kxh1 and a check of the black queen on h7 or h8 has no utility after 30.Kg1 ... |
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