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Gyula Sax vs John Fedorowicz
Olympiad 1986  ·  Sicilian Defense: Lasker-Pelikan Variation. General (B33)  ·  0-1
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May-18-04
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  Benzol: <molinov & artemis> Thanks guys. Perhaps I wasn't looking hard enough if everyone thinks this is easy. Perhaps I should give up chess for tiddlywinks. :(
May-18-04  DexterGordon: <Benzol> No giving up! Just ignore the "I got this one in 3 milliseconds" crowd. I think most of the folks here are (like me) glad for the challenge these puzzles provide...
May-18-04  vangogh228: Artemis: What do you mean "x-ray?"
May-18-04  fred lennox: 14 Qe6, good move making...Rb8 possible. The exchange of minor pieces opened the b file and half opened the d and g files to blacks advantage.
May-18-04
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  beenthere240: I think the x-ray statement refers to the idea that the focal square is g1, and the fact that the white rook will be on g2 after taking the queen is immaterial -- the range of black's rook on g8 goes like an "x ray" through the white rook to g1.
May-18-04
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  Gypsy: <I think the x-ray statement refers to the idea that the focal square is g1> Just to go on a lim, I think <artemis> was talking about the other, symmetric x-ray to g8. After 1...Rxg2? the white rook of g1 x-rays all the way, through the two heavy pieces, to g8. Thus the previously mentioned 2.Rxg8+ Qxg8 3.Qxg8+ Rxg8 4.Rxg8+ (this is the point) Kxg8 and White wins the endgame.
May-18-04
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  beenthere240: You may be right -- altho I always thought of an x-ray attack as a type of skewer -- often involving a check that requires the king to move after which another piece on the same rank, file or diagonal is exposed to capture. Don't want to put words in the mouth of Artemis, tho.
May-18-04
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  kevin86: Are we in medical school? It is strange that such a subtle move Pe4 can be followed by the jack-hammer move Qxg2!!

more x-rays on this patient! STAT!!

May-18-04  minnow: Wouldn't 32....Rd1also win for black? This was the first move that came to me when I saw the puzzle. 32.... Rd1 33.Qd4 (or Rxd1) Qxg2#. Wait, now that I look again, that fails to 33.Qa2
May-18-04
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  Gypsy: Since I dared to anticipate, I of course hope that <artemis> will clarify his thoughts when he gets around to it. It probably is better to think of skewers and pins as being special cases of x-rays <beenthere240>. But I note it only because I find such nomenclature helpful. We can live with any other taxonomy, as long as we communicate well.
May-18-04  azaris: 32....Rd1 loses to 33. Rxg8+ Qxg8 34. Qxg8+ Kxg8 35. Rxd1.
May-18-04  donhart: <Benzol> One day you'll be remarking how easy some puzzle was, and the other person will be saying, "Really, I found it impossible!"

Hey, <chessgames.com>! Are you collecting these puzzles for a book that you'll publish some day? You could use our responses to organize the puzzles from easiest to diseasiest. This puzzle might go on page one. Having said that, however, I remain grateful to you for reaching out to players of every calibre. You have taught me that there may always be a golden opportunity in the most innocuous of positions. It's simply a matter of continuously seeking for it. Every time it's my move, I approach the board as if it were a puzzle.

May-18-04  iron maiden: Queen takes pawn check, rook takes queen, rook delevers decisive check on the back rank. A lot like yesterday's puzzle, actually. Are you waging psychological warfare, chessgames.com? :-)
May-18-04  midknightblue: I believe beenthere240's explanation is very accurate. I would not use the term x-ray to describe the tactic here. I think the tactics in this game would be better described as removing the defender (rook) off the back rank and thus exposing a weak back rank. Either way, I like the stat reference :)
May-18-04
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  Gypsy: Only <artemis> can settle what he realy ment. My hypothesis is that he ment the (x-ray) pressure that White Rg1 extends on the square g8 through two Black piecess. This would have came into play had Black blundered by 1...Rxg2? I gather that you, <midknightblue>, refer to the in-game combination after 1...Qxg2! Am I off?
May-18-04
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  Annie K.: OT, but why does everybody here refer to Artemis as "he"? If you are familiar with each other then my apologies, but otherwise I would like to point out that Artemis is the name of the Huntress Goddess in the Greek Mythology. While this is not conclusive of anything, "Artemis" might well be a handle used by a woman. :)
May-18-04
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  Gypsy: You are absolutely right <Annie K.> and I do feel like an idiot. (LOL) As I am now trying to survive this spring's hay fewer season, my intellect is low. I just cut and pasted his/her name---did not read it much; thought it was one of the 3 musketeers... :-)
May-19-04
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  Annie K.: Nope, that's Aramis, LOL. Sorry, <Gypsy>, didn't mean to make anybody feel bad, I'm just an incurable nitpicker. Get well soon! :)
May-26-04
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  Geronimo: Incurable nitpicking is good for chessplayers of any gender. But hayfever is bad for the mid-game. LOL
May-27-04  drukenknight: why doesnt black push 21...e4? He seems to want to get the pawn mass moving that would be a good way to do it.
Jun-01-04  Cyphelium: <dk> After 21.- e4, white can play 22. Rg3 Qf7 23. Qxf5, keeping the advantage. If then 23.- exd3, then white can play 24. Rxh7+ Qxh7 25. Rh3, but this looks bad in view of 25.- Qxh3 26. Qxh3+ Kg7 and the passer is strong. So better is 24. Rxd3, when white is pawn up and still has the initiative, while black is tied to the defence of h7.
Jun-18-05  aw1988: There is absolutely no reason for a move like Nf5.
Nov-16-07
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  twin phoenix: at first glance i really didn't like 30.--,R-d2!. as it gives away blacks outside passer. however, after seeing the outstanding continuation black had in mind i give the move an exclam. this was a very strong denoument!
Nov-16-07  Riverbeast: Johhny Royale dropped that Bronx Bomb on Sax!
Jul-12-08  Jesspatrick: 32.Raa1 and White's okay, but probably headed for a draw. I'm thinking the clock was a factor in this game ending blunder.
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