Nov-13-02 | | drukenknight: Wade/OConnell's Fischer book mentions this game and says that Evans in Chess Life says that after 10...Kd6 Larsen said "now I play for a win!" Evans says then "he got slaughtered after 11 c4..." what do people think: that black should play for the draw by 10...Kf7 or can he play for a win? IF so does 14...Ne4 keep it going? |
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Nov-14-02 | | AgentRgent: DK, Against Fischer, I'm taking the Draw. Then again against most players I'd take the draw after Nxf7. But it's been my experience that few players will play the sac and they end up worse for it. |
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May-07-05 | | woodenbishop: OUCH!! Larsen was seriously spanked in this game by the computer-like attacking style of Fischer. |
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May-07-05 | | RookFile: There's a story about this. This
had happenned before. In a real
tournament game, Larsen had tried
this ...Nd7 idea against Tal.
As you might imagine, Tal thought
of this Nxf7 idea in about a half
a second. But he saw that this wasn't
simple, and was very conflicted about
it, thought a long time over it, and
then played something else and only
got a draw. They called this "Tal
blinked".
So, here we have Fischer, with his
fantastic opening preparation ( what
he did alone rivals what Kasparov
did with a team ) who had worked out
all the consequences of this. In
a 5 minute game, no less, his fantastic memory allowed him to go through all the complications without difficulty. Tal vs Larsen, 1965
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Feb-06-08 | | frank124c: Maybe they should call this opening Alekhine's Defense, Fried Liver Variation! |
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Feb-06-08 | | whiteshark: "Now I play for a win!"
My motto, too. :P |
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Jun-06-08 | | BalaKKa: I find a nice finish:
19.Nb5 Bd7
20.Nxc7+ Kd8
21.0-0 Rc8
22.Ne6+ Ke8
23.Bd4 Qc2 (Nh5 or Ne4 met by Qd3!)
24.Bd3! Qc6
25.Qg6+ hxg6
26.Bxg6# |
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Mar-20-09 | | WhiteRook48: he really Bent him |
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Mar-19-10
 | | HeMateMe: I think white is winning. |
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Nov-07-10 | | tentsewang: LOL! What a great way to fool the greedy GMs to make themselves turn in to a poison trap. Fischer's the Best of the Best! |
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Jun-07-11 | | joelsontang: Is there anyway black could keep the exchange and win?? |
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Apr-01-12
 | | OBIT: <RookFile>Fischer's play hardly points to deep opening preparation, since his queen checks on h5 and g4 only invite a quick three-fold repetition. Well, OK, I suppose the other possible explanation for the queen checks is that Fischer was playing psychologically - Larsen's disdain for draws was well known, and he often pointed out with great pride how low his draw percentage was compared to other GMs. Knowing that, maybe Fischer played into the draw to see if Larsen's aversion to draws would get the better of him. Sure enough, it did - after 10...Kd6 Black's king is in serious trouble, even in a blitz game. So who says you should always "play the board, not the man"? I think everyone plays some moves based on their opponent's rating or reputation. Even Fischer, the guy who said, "I don't believe in psychology, I believe in good moves" did it. |
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Apr-30-13
 | | PawnSac: < Fischer got Bent outa shape > lol |
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Jul-12-14 | | SpaceRunner: Mind You! It is a BLITZ game!!! |
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Jul-12-14
 | | perfidious: Lest we forget; many do. |
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Nov-17-21 | | edroche1111: A recent article in chess.com claims that more advanced computer analysis has now totally refuted this whole line and black is busted. The article was called something like Bad Alekhine. But I cannot find it. I believe there is an improvement on 8.Qg4 leading to a long forced line where black is totally lost. If anyone has a link to that article or analysis I would appreciate it. |
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Nov-17-21
 | | Williebob: Hello <edroche>, you must be referring to GM Mikhail Golubev 's series The Old Tricks; he covers 5.. Nd7? here:
https://www.chess.com/blog/Mikhail_...
At his player page you can find links to previous installments as well. |
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Nov-17-21
 | | Williebob: Larsen's 5.. Nd7 line is referred to as "Bad Alekhine" in GM Golubev's analysis from the chess.com link above. Hilarious! I don't know if this was Golubev's nickname for it, or already a known one.
8. c4! followed by d5+ appears to be the strongest play for the win. Black is busted only if you are quite familiar with subsequent play, however - White can easily mess up the patient attempt to weave a mating net.
This blitz game was played not long after Larsen drew with Tal in a Bad Alekhine... during a Candidates' match!
Tal vs Larsen, 1965 |
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Nov-18-21 | | edroche1111: Williebob - Thanks very much. |
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Nov-18-21
 | | harrylime: Gotta laff. I love chess ! Even in a blitz miniature from Bobby there's always someone saying "Best was " "better was" ect ... Nice game Bobby. Sorely missed. |
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Nov-18-21
 | | harrylime: Bobby was essentially the best chess player in the world when this game was played. |
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Nov-19-21
 | | harrylime: And Computer schit for any past games is a two way street ... Previous GM's not allowed silicon access can rightly say fook off . |
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Apr-19-22 | | RookFile: Nobody will know for sure, but I think Fischer knew before the game that ...Kd6 would lose. Evidently Larsen didn't know, and he'd played this thing before. |
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