|
< Earlier Kibitzing · PAGE 1 OF 6 ·
Later Kibitzing> |
| Feb-22-03 | | drukenknight: More Fischer/Winawer. If a fair GM can beat Fischer in this, at a time when Fischer was God, then the superstars of chess must have looked at it closely to see if they could find an answer. THis is a poison pawn where black's N is on f6 not e7. It makes it very interesting. Something maybe Euwe would have played against Alek. no? Fischer almost gets the Q trapped in this. I think he should have grabbed the h pawn, huh? At the end isnt 25 Rh1 better? I dunno if there is a trap in there or something, I am going fast so... |
|
| Feb-22-03 | | kostich in time: Fischer had won with this variation against the "God"of the French,Wolfgang Uhlmann,earlier in the tournament..so he walked into this game against a player who was virtually unknown.A study of Fischers chess record shows that he had an outragous plus score against Yugoslav players,so that,coupled with the Uhlmann win,probably made him over-confident. |
|
| Feb-22-03 | | drukenknight: it looks like 8...Qd5 w/ an eye for teaming up the Q/R on the weakness on g7 as well as hiting the queen. dxe4 is interesting, if played on the 3rd or 4th it is known as Burn or Rubinstein variation respectively. Most of the Burn or Rubinstein have a follow up of Nd7. Black does the same follow up move here. But in a lot of these Burn Rubinstein the Q may have a good time coming out into the center. Maybe Refutor or whoever can fill us in. |
|
| Sep-02-03 | | Badmojo: I remember reading somewhere that somehow Kovacevic had the advice of other Soviet GM's in this game. Apparently they helped him win the game. I think Korchnoi said: "We didn't tell him all the moves, only the difficult ones." I wish I had more substantiation, but I remember reading it. |
|
| Sep-02-03 | | Sylvester: These commie cheats! |
|
| Sep-02-03 | | ughaibu: The story is that Petrosian and someone else were watching the game and they noticed a Fischer trap, Petrosian's wife went over to Kovacevic and whispered the correct move in his ear. Anyone who believes this story (applies to plenty of Korchnoi's stories) must be nuts. Can you imagine the fuss Fischer would have made if such a thing really happened? In any case the game didn't require anything extraordinary to win so this story is insulting to Kovacevic. |
|
| Sep-03-03 | | Sylvester: I have heard that Petrosian and his wife were notorious. We should look at the game and see what happened. |
|
| Sep-03-03 | | ughaibu: I imagine the move that was claimed to be whispered was 18....e3. If Kovacevic played Nh4 (I'm not sure why he would want to) Fischer could reply e4. There's certainly no need to have this pointed out by a watching world champion. |
|
| Sep-03-03 | | PVS: This one is too subtle for me. I agree that 18…e3 looks like a great move. 18...Nh4 is a blunder. I think there is an intermediate move 18...exf. I will check opening explorer. |
|
| Sep-03-03 | | PVS: The opening explorer comes up with Fischer vs R Byrne, 1966 so the line was no secret. |
|
| May-24-04 | | Whitehat1963: Fischer loses quickly with White at the top of his game. But what's the finish? |
|
| May-24-04 | | Cyphelium: The threat is simply Ng2 winning the exchange, and since 31. Qe5 is answered by 31.- Bxf3, it cannot be parried. |
|
| May-24-04 | | Whitehat1963: Thanks, Cyphelium. |
|
| May-24-04 | | Cyphelium: You're welcome. =) |
|
| May-24-04 | | Knezh: Kovacevic was a great expert in french defense. The move i like most in this game is 12. ..h6! If 13. Bxh6, then i believe Kovacz intended 13. ..Rg4, setting white's queen offside. If Qxh6, then probably 13. ..0-0-0. |
|
| Aug-15-04 | | iron maiden: I believe this was Fischer's first defeat in three years. Confidence got the better of him it seems; apparently he thought he could get away with losing time with his queen. |
|
| May-31-05 | | Akavall: I used to play this line (4. a3) as white, Black here is about equal, but I prefer this type of position to typical French. Thats why I don't understand Fischer's decision, he was extremly strong strategically, but crazy irrational positions wasn't exactly his strongest side. Probably over confidence. |
|
| Jun-21-05 | | Benzol: <...but crazy irrational positions wasn't exactly his strongest side.> That is something that Geller had noticed and commented on. |
|
Jun-21-05
 | | keypusher: As I think <ughaibu> has said, Geller beat Fischer in rational positions as well as irrational ones. In the 1971 Candidates Matches Fischer seemed to aim for hyper-rational positions with white and "crazy" positions with black (especially against Taimanov and Larsen). Or, as Alexander Shashin put it, "he divided himself into 'White Fischer' and 'Black Fischer.' With the white pieces, Bobby pretended to be the greatest classical player, playing dry and precise chess, often draining his opponents in 60-move endgames. The Black Fischer, because of a pathological greed for points, strove for ultra sharp play in Korchnoi's manner. But his brain rebelled against such a heavy undertaking . . . ." Maybe Fischer forgot which color he was playing here? But I think as Fischer's career progressed he got better at everything, including irrational positions. |
|
| Nov-29-05 | | KingG: This is a very nice game from Kovacevic. I don't know why every time Fischer loses, some story has to be made up to give him an excuse. |
|
| Nov-29-05 | | suenteus po 147: <KingG: I don't know why every time Fischer loses, some story has to be made up to give him an excuse.> Because he is the second coming of Morphy in the chess world. Look at Jesus, or Buddha; everyone has an excuse for those guys too. |
|
| Nov-30-05 | | Anatooly Homedepotov: <everyone has an excuse for those guys too> You're right about that. I'm sure J&B would be appalled at what their legacies have wrought as their "followers" down through the centuries corrupted whatever their original intent and message was. Hopefully years from now there won't be "Fischerite Disciples" like there now are Presleyite Disciples, sometimes called “Elvites”, who worship Elvis as their god. |
|
| Nov-30-05 | | alicefujimori: It is really about time that Fischer fans stop all those nonsense stories about cheating and how "god" Fischer was. Sure, Fischer was a great player but that does not mean that Fischer was immune to losing. Everyone knows that Fischer had a problem against the French throughout his career. In fact, Fischer eventually preferred to enter the main line and played 7.a4 against Larsen in their candidtate's match. I really wonder if this "Fischer Myth" would of existed if he was beaten in the match against Karpov in 1975. |
|
| Nov-30-05 | | KingG: <Hopefully years from now there won't be "Fischerite Disciples" like there now are Presleyite Disciples, sometimes called “Elvites”, who worship Elvis as their god.> LOL. I think there already are. |
|
| Nov-30-05 | | KingG: <I really wonder if this "Fischer Myth" would of existed if he was beaten in the match against Karpov in 1975.> No, of course it wouldn't. I'm just grateful that he played Spassky in 1992 so we could see his level of play. Can you imagine what his fans would be saying now if he hadn't? They'd still be claiming that Fischer could beat Kasparov, Topalov, Kramnik, ... |
|
 |
|
|
< Earlier Kibitzing · PAGE 1 OF 6 ·
Later Kibitzing> |
Kibitzing
