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Boris Spassky vs Robert James Fischer
Fischer - Spassky World Championship Match (1972), Reykjavik ISL, rd 3, Jul-16
Benoni Defense: Knight's Tour Variation (A61)  ·  0-1
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May-02-17  Wedontgetchess: I think it's hilarious how everyone is claiming that Nh5 is a mistake or an inaccuracy. Now in 2017 with stockfish 8, my computer claims Nh5 is the Best move with the other top moves being your regular mainline a6 and Ne5. So even if Nd1 is the apparent refutation (Stockfish 8 apparently doesn't like it) Nh5 is still the best move. Honestly I just hate engine analysis on positional moves such as Nh5 and wanted to see if Fischers move was actually not that good... apparently it is so that's that I guess. (If other moves are played first like a6 a4 or the other mainlines then yes Nh5 is an inaccuracy; subtlety and move order matters apparently).
May-02-17  Helios727: What happens after 42. Ke3 ?
May-02-17
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  beatgiant: <Helios727>
The reply is the same as it was in 2008:

<Jun-18-08 Some call me Tim: If 42. Ke3 Qd1 wins by force. Any B move is followed by Qf3+ which is either mate or forces mate quickly. If 43. Qc3 Qf3+ 44. Kd2 Qe2#. If 43. Qa1 Qf3+ 44. Kd2 Qe2+ 45. Kc3 Qe5+ wins the Q.>

May-02-17
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  tamar: 42...Qd1 43 Qb2 c3 44 Qxc3 Qf3+ 45 Kd2 Qe2# is a version of the 43 Qc3 line

Once that square is occupied .it is mate with Qa2 or Qb4 if the King goes to d4

May-02-17
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  tamar: Sorry hand held device Qe2# or Qe4#
May-02-17
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  PawnSac: < Helios727: What happens after 42. Ke3 ? >

42.Ke3 Qd1 then if white tries to save the bishop..

a) 43.Bd2 Qf3# or
b) 43.Bb2 f3+ 44.Kd2 Qe2+ 45.Kc1 (or Kc3) ..Qc2#; therefore

c) 43.Kf4 Qxc1+ 44.Qe3 Qh1 and either

c1) 45.Kg5 (if Qd4 Qf3+ Kg5 Qf5+ Kh6 Qg6#) Qxd5+ and the C pawn queens, or..

c2) 45.f3 Qxf3+ 46.Qxf3 gxf3 47.Kxf3 c3 48.Ke3 c2 49.Kd2 Kg7 etc

May-02-17  Helios727: What does Black do after 42. Ke3 Qd1 43. Kf4 Qf3+ 44. Kg5 Qf5+ 45. Kh4 ?
May-02-17
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  keypusher: <Helios727: What does Black do after 42. Ke3 Qd1 43. Kf4>

43....<Qxc1+> as per PawnSac's note <c.>

Of course after 44.Qe3 instead of 44....Qh1 Black can just trade queens; he's a piece ahead.

Jul-19-17  Helios727: If 42. Ke1 should Black play 42... Qxb4+ ?
Jul-19-17
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  FredGambit: 42. Ke1 Qxb4+ 43 Kd1 (43 Bd2 Qb1+ 44 Bc1 Qxc1#) 43...Qb3+ 44 Ke1 (44 Kd2 Qc2+ and 45...Qxc1) 44...Qc2 (threatening 45...Qe2# and 45 Qxc1) 45 Qe3 (stopping both) Qc3+ 46 Kd1 Bc2+ 47 Ke2 Qxe3, and the sequence ends with black's passed pawn pair on the b and c files. I know white still has opposite color bishops, but two connected passed pawns seems decisive at a glance.
Jul-19-17  alphamaster: It's true that Fischer had play the Benoni and the Akekhine before but this was against inferior opponents and the Soviets expected he didn't dare to play such openings in this match. In fact Fischer played the Alekhine twice with excellent results (1.5-0.5)
Jul-19-17  Howard: The draw he had with the Alekhine was against Browne--and Fischer definitely should have lost that one.
Jul-19-17  alphamaster: No, I mean Fischer played the Alekhine twice in the match agaunst Spassky in 1972 and both were excellent and very memorable games.
Jul-19-17
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  Petrosianic: <Fischer definitely should have lost that one.>

Not because of the opening. Claims that the Russsians thought he'd never "dare" to play it are just blowing smoke. Nobody knows that, it's a made-up fact, like saying he'd never "dare" play 1. c4. Fisher's repertoire was very limited and dogmatic for a long time (he started loosening up a bit in later years). They expected what they expected for that reason.

Actually, I don't recall Fischer playing the Benoni at all before 1972. He may have done, but if he did, I'd like to see the game.

Jul-19-17
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  beatgiant: <Petrosianic>
<I don't recall Fischer playing the Benoni at all before 1972.>

A few well-known examples:

Najdorf vs Fischer, 1966

Najdorf vs Fischer, 1966

Gligoric vs Fischer, 1970

Jul-19-17
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  perfidious: Fischer made a fine score with the Modern Benoni, but almost lost to Portisch in 1970 and had a hard time with Kraidman at Netanya 1968 as well before grovelling a draw.
Jul-19-17
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  Petrosianic: That's funny, I'd seen those last two games, but remembered them in my mind as King's Indians.

The first one started out as a King's Indian but became a Benoni by transposition.

Jul-19-17
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  Petrosianic: That's funny, I'd seen those last two games, but remembered them in my mind as King's Indians.

The first one started out as a King's Indian but became a Benoni by transposition.

I wouldn't consider either the opponents or the occasions to be inferior. Najdorf and Gligoric, though not Spassky, were world class opponents at least.

Kraidman, yes, but that's just one game.

Jul-19-17
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  Petrosianic: The Benoni really was considered dubious or unsound at one point, but Tal had proven its playability back in the 50's.
Jul-19-17
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  perfidious: Tal played the Modern Benoni a lot less after losing to Korchnoi in the 1962 Soviet championship, his preferences for some time thereafter being the King's and Nimzoindian defences.
Jul-19-17
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  Petrosianic: Yes, but the opening was established as legitimate.

A few years before that, the King's Indian had been considered dubious, but it won its spurs also (even though it's not really in favor at the moment).

Jul-19-17
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  perfidious: The KID 'dubious'? When?

By the mid fifties, it already had a distinguished pedigree at top level, numbering Bronstein, Geller and Gligoric as top-class practitioners before Fischer exploded onto the scene.

Jul-19-17  tonsillolith: Fantastic example of attacking nature of opposite colored bishops.
Jul-20-17
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  HeMateMe: the famous 11...N-h5 game.
Jul-20-17  Howard: But, then, this wasn't the only time 11...Nh5 was played. See Gligoric's well-known win against Kavalek from 1974.
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