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Aug-25-04
 | | Eggman: Just to clarify the circumstances of 25.Nde7+?: it wasn't that Ivanchuk made the wrong decision and realized it midway through his move, it was that he made the right decision (25.Nce7+) and realized midmove that he had absent-mindedly picked up the wrong Knight! At least, this is what I remember reading at the time (probably in Chess Life). |
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Aug-29-04
 | | offramp: Why doesn't someone ask Ivanchuk if he moved the wrong knight or not? |
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Sep-04-04
| | offramp: I wish Ivanchuk had chucked in the towel early and played 30.♘xg7, because after 30...♕h1+ 31.♗xh1 ♘h2+ 32.♔e1 ♖g1 there is an amazing mate administered by ♖ ♘ and pawn against the full array of white pieces! Incredible. |
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| Sep-07-04 | | notyetagm: In the voting for the Best Game in the history of the Chess Informant publication back in the early 90's, this game got Anand's vote as the absolute best. The famous Karpov-Kasparov 1985 WCC Game 16 was his second choice. |
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| Sep-08-04 | | iron maiden: For sure this game and Kasparov-Topalov, '99, were the top two games of the nineties. |
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Sep-08-04
| | offramp: I personally think the Ksparov-Topalov game is overrated. Given the fact that this game was so important - ie a candidate's match - this has to be the game of the 90s.
It is fair enough playing sacrifices like this against a Joe Schmo like Kieseritzky, but it is totally different to play them against a top-5 GM.
There may be some errors - but of course this was a half-hour game. |
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| Sep-08-04 | | iron maiden: <offramp> I think Kasparov-Topalov is a little overrated, too, but that doesn't mean it's not a great game. I would take this game over that one, though, especially since it's uncommonly precise for rapid time controls. |
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Sep-13-04
| | Eggman: This game was an hour sudden death, not a half hour, and that alone would make me hesitate in giving it the best-game-of-all-time award. |
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| Sep-13-04 | | iron maiden: It wasn't sudden death; it was just the first of two "normal" rapid tie-break games. |
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Sep-13-04
| | Eggman: Just to be clear Iron Maiden, I meant that the time control was sudden death in 1 hour, not that the game was sudden death. Am I wrong about the time control? |
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Nov-18-04
| | offramp: Next time I see Ivanchuk I'm gonna poke him in the chest and say, "Listen, Shemp, did you play ♘de7+ on purpose or by mistake?!?" I'll let you all know what he says. |
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| Nov-19-04 | | Minor Piece Activity: Are you joking again or are you really going to see Ivanchuk, <offramp?> |
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Nov-19-04
| | offramp: <Minor Piece Activity: Are you joking again or are you really going to see Ivanchuk, <offramp?>> Sadly I don't think I will ever meet the great man, but if I ever do then that's what I'll ask him.
I'm sorry; in the last post I ought to have written, "If ever I see Ivanchuk...." |
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Apr-01-05
 | | LIFE Master AJ: <everyone>
Interesting posts, I have deeply annotated this game on my website.
(http://www.lifemasteraj.com/great_c...) I am very proud of this analysis, about five GM's have complimented me on it. I don't remember if I read that Ivanchuk mistakenly touched the wrong Knight. (Move 25) Or if I commented on that fact before. I will have to research that item further. This is yet ANOTHER game that I thought I had commnted on at least once before. hmmm ............. |
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Jun-18-05
| | offramp: For some reason, 37...Kh8 is a quicker win. |
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| Jul-28-05 | | Calypsoleon: At 27 for black..Nf2 is not quicker? With the followup of
Nh3 and then Q mates.? |
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| Sep-06-05 | | PhilFeeley: Where are Seirawan's comments on this game? |
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| Sep-06-05 | | error: I'm not convinced with 34.Bxf4. Why not 34.Rdc1 instead? |
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| Sep-07-05 | | error: I'd also like to know what could happen if White played 36.Rdb1. Because if 36...Nh3 37.Ke1 Qxg2 38.Kd1 and the King escapes. |
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| Sep-08-05 | | error: Folks, I'd really appreciate if someone answers my previous posts, because I can't sleep wondering if White had a chance of salvation at the end of this fascinating game! |
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| Sep-08-05 | | Shams: <error> in both lines white takes the bishop and e2 pawn with check, and the queen and knight will bring home the e-pawn. with his king so exposed white would have virtually no chance. |
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| Sep-08-05 | | Jim Bartle: Phil: Seirawan wrote about this game in an issue of Inside Chess in late 1991, and also in his book "Winning Chess Brilliancies." This was one of his 12 favorites from 1972 onward. Have never seen them online. |
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| Sep-09-05 | | error: Thanks for the reply <Shams>. But honestly, after 34.Rdc1 Nh3 35.Ke1 Qxg2 36.Kd1 Qf1+ 37.Kc2 Qxe2+ 38.Kb3 Kxg7 39.Be5+ Kf7 40.c5 I wouldn't say White has no chance. So, is it possible that Ivanchuk blundered at the end, or I am still missing something? |
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| Sep-09-05 | | euripides: <error> I'm not sure but 34 Rdc1 Ne4 (threatening Qg3) 35 Ke1 Qg1+ 36 Bf1 Qf2+ 37 Kd1 Qxf1+ 38 Kc2 Qxe2+ 39 Kb3 Qd3+ 40 Kb4 Nxd6 may be more effective. |
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| Sep-09-05 | | error: All right <euripides>, I think your continuation looks good for Black. So, 34.Bxf4 apparently was the best move. But I don't think the same about 36.Rab1? If White played instead 36.Rdb1 Ne4 37.Ke1 Qg1+ 38.Bf1 Qf2+ 39.Kd1 Qxf1+ 40.Kc2 Qxe2+ 41.Kb3 leads to a similar position but Black has no more his "f" Pawn to support the passed "e" Pawn. With a ♖♖♘ vs ♕♘ ending, I think a long fight could still remain, don't you? |
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