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| Sep-27-04 |
| offramp: Playing through this game makes me wonder about the value - or even the point - of holding an open file. For a lot of the game black has tripled major pieces on the e-file, but what benifiteth it him?
Nimzowitch said that the point of having pieces doubled on a file was to later have them douubled on the 2nd rank - 'the refreshment stall' as Soviet GMs used to call it. But if you can't get through to the 2nd rank, and there are no threats of back-rank mates, is the advantage purely optical? It seems to be in this case. What use was the e-file to Steinitz? |
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| Sep-27-04 |
| aw1988: If black accepts the bishop, 33...gxf5?! 34.Rhg1+ Kf7 35.Qh5+ Ke7 36.Rxf5. |
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| Mar-11-05 |
| offramp: 29.Kb1 and 30.a3 - two of the best moves of Lasker's career. |
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| Jul-05-05 |
| THE pawn: At move ten, it exactly looks like the najdorf, except that black has a different setup. |
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| Dec-20-05 |
| ughaibu: but the Najdorf is a black strategy? |
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| Dec-30-05 |
| THE pawn: I meant sicilian, I was in my najdorf mood at that time so everything related to the sicilian meant in my head najdorf. ( repeat it in your head 150X you'll see what I mean! najdorfnajdorfnajdorfnajdorfnajdorfnajdorf...) |
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Sep-12-06
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| percyblakeney: Instead of 21. ... Nh8 it seems as if Rf8 would avoid all immediate problems for black after something like 22. h4 b5 23. Bb3 Re2:
click for larger viewAfter 23. ... hxg6 for example 24. h5 gxh5 25. Rxh5 Re8 doesn't look too bleak for black: 
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| Dec-05-06 |
| Gouki: given the complications on the board, indeed 21....Nh8?? immediately removes the knight out of play and gives white a piece up advantage in the position. surely, the worst place a knight could be is at the edge of the board. and the fact that for a strong master like Steinitz to play this horrible move, shows that his positional understanding is poor compared to Lasker's! |
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| Feb-02-08 |
| Bodia: Amazing blunders of Steinitz! |
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Feb-29-08
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| Knight13: <14. g4!> Very good move. |
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| Jul-02-08 |
| apexin: outstanding game by lasker. |
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Oct-15-08
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| brankat: A vintage Lasker. The game is a masterpiece. |
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Oct-15-08
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| JG27Pyth: Lasker looks to me to be playing about 200 rating points higher than Steinitz... WS looks completely out-classed. But reading Bishop's post (first post in thread) makes me think there's more going on here than I see -- if Kasparov thinks "neither Chigorin nor Tarrasch could understand the game" surely I haven't either! |
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| Oct-15-08 |
| Samagonka: I would love to see the very end of this game. |
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Oct-15-08
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| Honza Cervenka: I don't believe that 16.Qxd5 and 18.f4 were not Lasker's mistake. It is true that black Knight is placed badly in the corner but after 23...hxg6 black is three Pawns up and black position looks defendable, for example 24.h5 gxh5 25.Rxh5 Re5 26.Rxe5 (in case of retreat of Rook black can play Qg5) 26...Qxe5 27.Re1 Qg3 28.Bd3 Rf8 etc. |
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| Oct-15-08 |
| Superbull: Can someone tell me what is wrong with 15...Be7 16.Nxe7 Rxe7 17.h4 Qd7. It looks like Bxd5 was the first blunder that led to all sorts of complication for black. |
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| Oct-15-08 |
| newzild: I've never seen this game before, and I must say I'm impressed. A brilliant effort by Lasker - and bold, too, sacrificing a piece for a mix of positional and tactical compensations. |
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| Oct-15-08 |
| nimzo knight: This game really turned the tables around in the World Championship. Kasparov mentions about this game in his book. After loosing from being two pawns up it really shook Steinitz's belief in positional chess. Also at the time people believed Lasker's attack was nothing but desperation, analysis in subsequent areas has shown it to be way better than that. Kasparov brings the point that often players themselves look down upon the moves they played in an important game, b'cos they can rarely attain the level of concentration outside a WC game scenario |
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Oct-15-08
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| kevin86: Sad was the career of black's knight. On the 21st move,it retreated into a corner where it stood as a useless ornament until its coming capture in the postmortum. |
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| Oct-15-08 |
| maxi: The impression I get from the game is that Lasker valued piece activity above all. He clearly believes in positional chess, but positional chess based on dynamic assessments, not on blindly following recipes like "occupy open columns" or "fix weak Pawns". I guess the idea is to give the pieces the chance they deserve to do their best (or should I say worst?). On the other hand Steinitz, no doubt the father of modern chess, can be seen applying positional precepts a bit dogmatically. Perhaps he already was too sick by the time this game took place, I don't know. |
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| Oct-15-08 |
| ThePawnOTron2: Superbull, I don't know if 16.Nxe7 may be the best move, I think White could "maintain the tension" so to speak with f4 or h4 instead. --ThePawnOTron2 |
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| Oct-15-08 |
| medstu56: Pwned |
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| Oct-15-08 |
| mjmorri: Steinitz manages to setup Alekhine's Gun, but it strikes at nothing, whereas Lasker's little pawn on h7 proves to be most irksome. |
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| Jan-01-09 |
| WhiteRook48: and ye shall receive Steinitz |
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| Jan-01-09 |
| WhiteRook48: and Steinitz will give you the game. He will surely throw it. Offer him Beer. |
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sac: 34.Rhg1
