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|Jul-24-07|| ||ajile: <BAG: What is white's opening called? 4...c4 strange.
I dont think ive seen it before, I want new openings to play for white besides e4 and d4 but I still suck too much to pull em off.>|
This is a reverse Stonewall Dutch setup
with c4 and NC3 instead of the normal c3 and Nd2. Black made the mistake in this game of playing c6 too early which made White's c4 a good choice. Note that Black can usually equalize fairly easily in the main lines by playing c5. In this variation however Black would have to waste another tempo to get in this move which pressures the important d4 square.
The rule of thumb when playing against either f5 in the Dutch Stonewall or f4 in the White Stonewall is you play for the c pawn to advance 2 places against a Stonewall setup (c5 for Black-c4 for White) or you play for e4 (e5 as Black) against a Leningrad type setup(f4,g3 and d3). If you do neither of these you deserve to suffer.
|Jul-24-07|| ||ajile: Note: It's also effective to play for e5 in this opening against a White Stonewall. But if you choose this strategy you normally wouldn't play an early d5. You would play d6 to support e5. Also the idea of g6 and Bg7 is also good (with d6) because g6 and Bg7 supports the thematic e5 break and also strengthens Black's K-side against tactical shots on h7. So we can see in this game that Black had the wrong opening moves to support a logical strategy.|
The Queen sac was quite brilliant also.
|Jul-24-07|| ||melianis: There are some notable chessplayers who have experimented with this setup though not with 1.f4:
Games Like Pribyl vs R Hardarson, 2001|
|Jul-24-07|| ||Honza Cervenka: Black's opening setup here resembles Gruenfeld. The question is whether this is the best way of play against white stonewall but at least in this game black did not lose due to his opening play. White's Kingside drive was not so dangerous and black caused most problems to himself by inappropriate reactions to it.|
For example, 13...h5 was hardly necessary. Why not let's say 13...Rc8 14.h5 g5? Also 15...Kh7 and 17...Kh6 seems to be a bit dubious King's manoeuvre. White's forces on the Kingside were hardly sufficient and coordinated to make any serious harm to black King. 15...Nhf6 deserved attention and instead of 17...Kh6 black could have played 17...Nxf4!? as 18.exf4(?) Qxd4 gets white into big troubles. Black threatens to play Qg1+ or e3 with next Qxf4 and after 19.Ng4 Qg1+ 20.Bf1 Ba6 21.Rf2 Rad8 22.Ne3 Bd4 white positionn is awful. Correct continuation for white after 17...Nxf4 would be 18.h5! g5! 19. Ng6!? with unclear and sharp position.
20...Bxh4 was suicidal and decisive mistake. White's finish was very cute.
|Jul-24-07|| ||kackhander: tomorrow never knows is the best song on revolver.|
|Jul-24-07|| ||davegras: Tomorrow Never Know or She Said She Said are the best. And Revolver was one of their best albums too. IMO.
|Jul-24-07|| ||D4n: Giving up the Queen to complete the mate, nice.|
|Jul-24-07|| ||Jack Kerouac: Tomorrow Never Knows:
C ,C add G, Bb..Surrendor to the Void..
|Jul-24-07|| ||builttospill: I'm sorry folks. "I'm only sleeping" is the best.
What I like about this combination, starting with Bxe7! is that after Qxh5+ Kxh5 Rh1+ over the board I might personally notice that Bh4 blocks mate and think there isn't a tactic afterall. That extra Rg5+ is a great find, especially tough to find from move 22.
|Jul-24-07|| ||Sneaky: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApI7...
Revolver Session, "And Your Bird Can Sing" out-take
|Jul-24-07|| ||xKinGKooLx: This game was great. I might try 4. c4 sometime when I play this variation of Bird's opening. It clearly worked for White in this game.|
|Jul-24-07|| ||ajile: The opening did have an impact since Black didn't put any real pressure on White's center pawns. White was able to leave his king in the center and be totally safe which then meant he could attack at will on either k-side or q-side.|
|Jul-24-07|| ||kevin86: An easy one-alright,it's not a Monday puzzle,but it seems like it.|
A funny game-black castled,white didn't;whose king was the safer?
|Jul-24-07|| ||Billy Ray Valentine: Thanks <Sneaky> for the youtube clip. |
Chessplayers often have great taste in music. I guess the same "logic" part of the brain that makes one appreciate music makes one inclined to like chess... (and yes, <builttospill>, BTS is one of my favorite bands also...)
Revolver is arguably the finest Beatles album... I think it is solid throughout... but my vote would go for either Taxman or Tomorrow Never Knows...
|Jul-24-07|| ||tatarch: Very nice combo at the end- 20...Bxh4+ played right into white's plan and seemed like a greedy move to me at first, but I'm sure black was fearing Rg5. |
Speaking of, why didn't black play 20.Rg5? Black has to take the rook because of the Qxh5 mate threat, and then hxg5+ forces the king to g7, Qxh5 threatens both Qh6+ and Qxf7+ with mate to follow and black can't defend against both, right?
|Jul-24-07|| ||tatarch: Oh and I vote for she said she said or doctor robert, even though tomorrow never knows is probably the most "important" song on the album.|
|Jul-24-07|| ||WarmasterKron: <xKinGKooLx> If 4.c4 appeals to you, you can always try my old favourite 2.c4!?.|
|Jul-24-07|| ||fm avari viraf: Pribyl's bird sings a melodious song with a stunning Queen sac that makes it more beautiful.|
|Jul-24-07|| ||zb2cr: I think it's 21. ... Qd5 that puts the cat among the pigeons. How about 21. ... Bd5 as an alternative, to protect the threatening Knight fork on f7?|
|Jul-24-07|| ||weisyschwarz: And this Bird you cannot change. Especially if you use your king as an attacking piece!|
|Jul-24-07|| ||tatarch: zb2cr: If 21...Bd5, maybe 22.Ra2? Black could hold the bishop and defend against mate temporarily with e6, but then Bxf8+ is lights out anyway. |
Black may have just been in trouble from the beginning. I'm by no means an opening expert but it looks like he castled too quickly.
|Jul-24-07|| ||utssb: An attractive Queen sacrifice.
13...♙h5 seems poor. It's understandable that Black would seek to deny the same move from White but it's suicide.
Fritz offers something much better: 13...♘g3 14.♖h3 ♘ge4 15.♙h5 ♙g5 16.♙h6 ♗h8 17.♔f1 ♖c8 18.♔g1 ♘xd2 19.♕xd2 ♘e4 20.♖h5 ♙f6 with advantage to Black.
|Jul-24-07|| ||Thrajin: Oh come on guys... no one has mentioned Eleanor Rigby yet! Beautiful, poetic lyrics, catchy melody. Come to think of it, the entire album is amazing.|
|Jul-24-07|| ||WannaBe: <weisyschwarz: And this Bird you cannot change....>|
One of the greatest 20,000,000 minute guitar/drum riff/solo ever, whenever it's on (extended version or not) I crank that puppy way up in my car.
|Jul-25-07|| ||zb2cr: <tatarch>,
I think you must have meant 23. Rh2.
Black didn't castle too early; his inappropriate and unforced moves such as 13. ... h5 and 15. ... Kh7 got him in trouble. Why he didn't play 13. ... Rc8 as <Honza Cervenka> suggested, I can't guess.
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