|Jul-01-04|| ||qqq: Wow, a rare sight to seea B+N vs king |
|Jul-01-04|| ||acirce: Took Black 40 moves to win, that goes to show that this is an ending worth playing on with the bare king. |
|Aug-05-05|| ||PaulLovric: BEAUTIFUL............. I wonder if anyone can look at this ending and see how much sooner it may have occured?|
|Dec-03-05|| ||Chopin: I'm currently studying endgames and these endings are very hard. Great game.|
|Dec-03-05|| ||Saruman: This is a much faster win:
106. Kh5 Ke4 107. Kh4 Nf7 108. Kh3 Kf3 109. Kh4 Be5 110. Kh5 Kf4 111. Kh4 Ng5 112. Kh5 Kf5 113. Kh4 Bf4 114. Kh5 Bg3 115. Kh6 Ne6 116.Kh5 Ng7+ 117. Kh6 Kf6 118. Kh7 Bf4 119. Kg8 Kg6 120. Kf8 Bd6+ 121. Kg8 Nf5 122. Kh8 Be7 123. Kg8 Nh6+ 124. Kh8 Bf6#.
|Dec-03-05|| ||Saruman: Or
106. Kh3 Ng4 107. Kh4 Nf6 108. Kh3 Ne4 109. Kh4 Be5 110. Kh5 Bf6 111. Kg6 Kf4 112. Kf7 Kf5 113. Kf8 Ke6 114. Ke8 Nd6+ 115. Kf8 Bg5 116. Kg7 Kf5 117. Kh7 Kf6 118. Kg8 Bh6 119. Kh7 Nf5 120. Kg8 Kg6 121. Kh8 Bg7+ 122. Kg8 Ne7#.
|Feb-23-07|| ||DMBFan23: I've just started learning this endgame, not because I think I'll ever encounter it (though I did against a chess applet the other day!!!) but to learn about piece coordination, waiting moves, zugswang, the opposition, etc. I can force the king from the "safe" corner into the mating corner, but moving him from the center into the safe corner is really hard. impressive, especially cause it looks like there are some move repetitions indicating he found the solution OTB. go him.|
|Feb-01-08|| ||achieve: <DMBFan> Hits the nail on the head there re. practising the KNB v K mate for many reasons he mentioned...|
I've been spending a lot of time practising this myself the last few months, and one thing that strikes me (and I "invented" a term for it), which is:
What I mean is, that Black clearly doesn't see the possibility of a mate procedure (less than 20 moves) along the SIDE of the board (position after move 105) - i.e. forcing the lone King from h3 to h8/g8 - the corner of doom in this case - but spends 10 moves neither improving nor worsening his position, and then sees the light and works the lone King towards a1 - along the first rank...
What I encountered is the fact that it is very valuable, indeed necessary, to feel comfortable with BOTH colours and in all corners and along all 4 sides of the board-- in order to produce this procedure swiftly and decisively...
With myself I noticed a definite VISUAL DEPENDENCE during the first week of practising it.
|Dec-20-08|| ||WhiteRook48: 40 move rule in effect = draw. Lucky for Black that wasn't a rule.|
|Feb-08-09|| ||WhiteRook48: he should have resigned earlier|
|Jul-05-10|| ||SteinitzLives: Key to this ending is not only mating in the corner that is the same color as the bishop but also:
1) Get the opposition whenever possible until the lone K is on the rim.
2) Create an "L" shaped wall with the N and B either with one square in between them on rank or file, or diagonally next to eachother.
3) Keep the N and B out of the Kings' way (without giving up key squares) when your K must move side ways in relation to the lone K!
4) A big part of doing this right is not being afraid to let the lone K off the rim once you have him in the mate quadrant of the board; don't worry, the K, B and N with the right one or two square-controlling moves will put the lone K right back on the rim, and on the rim square where you need him to be.
5) Remember the piece to-search-for-a-move priority: a) look for best K moves first, b) look for best N moves second, and c) look for best B moves last.
6) Practice using Pandolfinis' endgame book where he has several mate in 2, 3, 4 and more problems, with K+B+N vs. lone K, then you can keep "goal positions" that have such forced mates following them, etched in your mind.|
7) One of the best descriptions of this mate process comes from Paul Keres' old book "Practical Chess Endings" (a book title shared by several other authors and books BTW). Keres gives an absolute worst case scenario in this ending and shows you how to do it with clear descriptions.
|Aug-17-10|| ||patzer3844: what can i say?i am just a 1800 player that never studied chess seriously and find this mate very easy.Q vs rook is much moredifficult,i have tried it a few times and didnt do it|