|Jan-30-04|| ||blueridgeboy07: an example of what not to do, Riviere moved his queen ten times in 23 moves |
|Mar-27-04|| ||popski: Yea, nightmare is also 16....Qc4? 17.Qh5+ g6 18.Nhg6 hg6. 19.Qg6+ |
|Oct-07-05|| ||AlexanderMorphy: yeah i think he should have gone 16. Qxc4!|
|Dec-11-06|| ||sambo: It's a nice end; if 23...g6 24.Nxf6+ Nxf6 25.Qxc5 wins the queen|
|Dec-11-06|| ||notyetagm: <blueridgeboy07: an example of what not to do, Riviere moved his queen ten times in 23 moves.> |
Is it really -only- 10 moves by the Black queen? It seems like all Black does is move his queen the whole game! Having just played over the game I would have guessed 16 or 17 moves by the Black queen.
|Jul-19-07|| ||Wild Bill: The important thing to observe the Queen moves is:
1. With the exception of <9.Qf6?!>, all of Black's Queen move were in defense to Ferzie being attacked; and
2. Each time White attacked the Queen, he improved his position with tempo.
The way to look as this game is not so much Black's number of Queen moves, but Morphy's artful use of time.
|Jul-19-07|| ||realbrob: Why did de Riviere play 9..Qf6? That move looks anti-positional. Maybe 9..Nf6 was more rational.|
|Jul-19-07|| ||RookFile: A master explained to me once that in the 19th century, the players tended believe that the pin sufferred in this position by 9....Nf6 10. Bg5 (and in analagous positions with white after Nf3 Bg4) was the worst nightmare imaginable. |
I think that is the case here: black overestimated the strength of 10. Bg5.
|Jul-19-07|| ||Honza Cervenka: <9...Nf6> In this position 9...Nf6 is no good and it is in fact well known theory of Evans. After that immediate 10.e5 (10.Bg5 is not so big problem for black here) leads to terrible attack of white. Normal continuations are 9...Na5 or 9...Bg4.|
|Jul-19-07|| ||RookFile: Well, I looked at some games, and what Honza is saying appears to be completely true: white has a huge plus score after 9.....Nf6 10. e5, including games like this one:|
Morphy vs De Riviere, 1858
Evidently de Riviere remembered this massacre, and quite reasonably
decided to try something different.
|Mar-31-09|| ||heuristic: mo' better moves:
10...Qd8 11.Re1 Ba5 12.Re3 a6 13.e5
18...axb6 19.Nd5 b5 20.Bxb5 Bxe6 21.Re1
20...Kf8 21.Re1 Qc5 22.Qh5 g6 23.Qh4
<9...Nf6 10.e5 leads to white attack>
but after 10...dxe5 11.Ba3 Bxd4 12.Nxd4 Nxd4 13.Re1 looks ok for BLK.
|Feb-05-10|| ||BKITU: ♫ Dancing queen... ♫|
|Jun-30-10|| ||wordfunph: a sort of record? 11 threatening moves on black's queen.. :)|
|Jul-17-10|| ||ounos: <heuristic: 18...axb6 19.Nd5 b5 20.Bxb5 Bxe6 21.Re1 >
Exactly what I was thinking about, up to 20. Bxb5 (then probably Ne7 - but even Bxe6 if it tactically works, I don't know, it seems dangerous). 18. ...Qxb6 is just asking for it. He had already spent 7 moves on his Queen, and yet now he got an option NOT to use it, still puts it in the obvious place to get attacked. Pure silly.|
|Jul-17-10|| ||tivrfoa: really nice game|
|Jul-17-10|| ||sleepyirv: Some of Morphy's contemporaries didn't known when to leave the lady alone, another game along these lines Morphy vs J McConnell, 1849|
|Jul-17-10|| ||YoungEd: Nomenclaturists, help, please: is it 9. c3 that makes this a "Morphy Attack?"|
|Jul-17-10|| ||randomsac: Awesome GOTD. Typical Morphy.|
|Jul-17-10|| ||kevin86: I've sen many king hunts,but this is the funniest queen hunt I can remember.|
|Jul-17-10|| ||SuperPatzer77: Let's dance with the lovely queen!!!
Remmeber - waltz dance is required.
LOL LOL LOL
|Jul-17-10|| ||ROO.BOOKAROO: Another one of those absurd Morphy games where the opponent is a sidekick making a clown of himself, which are amusing to discuss and kibitz, but which have no relevance to the kind of chess played in our time. No wonder that Morphy after playing too many of those phony games lost interest in playing chess.|
|Jul-17-10|| ||newton296: wow!! morphy wore out the black queens heels right off !! unreal !|
|Apr-03-11|| ||Vinpi: 9. ... f6? a typical computer's bad move lol ! and Morphy became a shark on the board !|
|Apr-04-11|| ||Llawdogg: Opening rule number six: Don't bring out your queen too early.|