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|Mar-23-16|| ||zanzibar: I tried to find it on <CG>, but I don't think the following game is on <CG>. Has anybody ever seen it?|
[FEN "rnbqkbnr /pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/1NBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.Ng5 d5 5.exd5 Nxd5 6.Nxf7 Kxf7 7.Qf3+
Ke6 8.Nc3 Nd4 9.Bxd5+ Kd6 10.Qf7 Be6 11.Bxe6 Nxe6 12.Ne4+ Kd5 13.c4+
Kxe4 14.Qxe6 Qd4 15.Qg4+ Kd3 16.Qe2+ Kc2 17.d3+ Kxc1 18.O-O# 1-0
It's from ACJ v3-4 (1878-79) p174/193
|Mar-23-16|| ||jnpope: <Has anybody ever seen it?>|
A few times...
<The Chess Monthly, v2, 1858.12, p371;
info: Mr. Paul Morphy gives an Amateur of New Orleans the Queen's Rook.>
<Morphy's games of chess, and Frere's problem tournament, 1859, p99>
<Choix des parties les plus remarquables jouées par Paul Morphy en Amérique, 1859, pp42-43>
<Morphy's Games, 1860, Appleton, pp453-455>
<Morphy's Games, 1860. Bohn, pp403-404>
<St. Louis Globe-Democrat, 1878.09.29,
<Paul Morphy. Skizze aus der Schachwelt, 2nd ed., 1881, p89;
<Paul Morphy, Maróczy, 1909, pp103-104>
<Paul Morphy, Lawson, 1976, p356; info: 1854, Paul Morphy vs Alonzo Morphy>
<Paul Morphy and the Evolution of Chess Theory, game 89>
|Mar-23-16|| ||zanzibar: Ha, so it's bona fide I assume.
Wonder why it's not on <CG> then? (Or did I miss it?)
Do you have a guess as to NN is? My source hints around about it...
|Mar-23-16|| ||zanzibar: Oh, I take that back, having looked a little harder...|
Turns out <CG> thinks NN is A. Morphy and that the game is from 1850:
Morphy vs A Morphy, 1850
Not what was suggested in ACJ. Is there a consensus from all those other sources? I assume they don't all get weighted the same.
|Mar-23-16|| ||zanzibar: Yes, the ACJ source was in turn Ballard. Funny that your ref |
<St. Louis Globe-Democrat, 1878.09.29, info: Morphy-Ballard>
and ACJ merely suggests that NN could be Ballard.
|Mar-23-16|| ||jnpope: Lawson gives Alonzo Morphy, but I'm not sure what his original source was for this game. All of the info I have is attached to my source citations.|
|Mar-23-16|| ||zanzibar: OK, thanks <jn>, I was just posting an aside while researching <Paris (1878)>.|
Maybe I'll look at the game in CM later, it appears to be the oldest source.
|Mar-30-16|| ||SBC: <Zanzibar>
Shibut - Game 089
Maroczy - Game 096
Sergeant - Game CCXCVII
"The names of a number of Morphy’s opponents were not known until years later in some cases, and others will never be known. Maurian, in his chess column in the New Orleans Sunday Delta, frequently referred to Morphy’s opponents as ‘Amateurs.” As, for example, when he published the game in which Paul checkmated his father by castling on his eighteenth move. Maurian published the game in 1858, but not until 1884 was the name of Paul’s opponent known.
After Morphy's death Maurian wrote to the New Orleans Times-Democrat of July 27, 1884.
'The subjoined curious little partie at odds [Queen's Rook], which is given in the various collections of Morphy's games simply as an Amateur, will acquire renewed interest for the chess world when it is stated that the Amateur in question was in fact Morphy's father, Judge Alonzo Morphy, and that the game was played about the year 1850, when the great master was hardly thirteen years old'
Sergeant was never aware of this relationship of the opponents in Morphy’s Games of Chess, in which the game appears as GAME CCXCVII" -Lawson p.82.
So both the original game score and the later 1884 revelation that Alonzo was Morphy's opponent came from de Maurian himself.
|Apr-02-16|| ||Phony Benoni: <Morphy's Law>:
"If anything can go wrong -- you're playing chess."
|Apr-07-16|| ||chancho: A segment from the article: <A Chess Champion’s Dominance—and Madness>|
<Morphy returned to New Orleans an international celebrity but settled into a strangely subdued mood; he said he hadn’t done as well as he should have.
He finally embarked on a law career, but interrupted it at the outbreak of the Civil War.
He opposed secession, and felt torn between his loyalties to the Union and to Louisiana, but he journeyed to Richmond to see Confederate General P.G.T. Beauregard, a family friend, about the possibility of securing a diplomatic position.
Some accounts suggest that he served as a volunteer aid to Beauregard (even gathering intelligence for the Confederates during the First Battle of Manassas), but others say the general deemed Morphy unqualified to serve, on or off the battlefield.>
|Apr-21-16|| ||Joshka: Does anyone know, what's the significance of placing one's hand inside your jacket at breast level? I see this very often in photos from the 19th Century. thanks in advance!!|
|Apr-21-16|| ||TheFocus: <Joshka> Google "Hand in waistcoat".|
Commonly, it denoted leadership.
I always wondered about that myself.
|Apr-28-16|| ||Joshka: <TheFocus> Hey thanks, I guess I just don't realize you can use google for just about everything!LOL;-)|
|Apr-28-16|| ||TheFocus: <Joshka> You're welcome.|
Me and Google are old friends.
|May-08-16|| ||thegadfly: Great discussion here. I read Lawson's book some years back but I would like to read more. Does anyone have any recommendations?|
|May-12-16|| ||SBC: <thegadfly>
For biographical info, try:
Philip W. Sergeant's "Morphy's Games of Chess" and "Morphy Gleanings" (later renamed "The Unknown Morphy") ;
Fred Edge's "The Exploits and Triumphs, in Europe, of Paul Morphy" (I think available online) ;
Willard Fiske's "The Book of the First American Chess Congress" (also online, I believe) ;
Regina Voitier's " Life of Paul Morphy in the Vieux Carré of New Orleans and Abroad" (You can read Philip Sergeant's review of that booklet here: http://www.edochess.ca/batgirl/PWS-... ) ;
"The First and Last Days of Paul Morphy" by Leona Queyrouze, writing as Constant Beauvais (it can be read here: http://www.liftingfaces.com/queyrou... ) ;
"La odisea de Pablo Morphy en la Habana" by A.C. Vazquez (which know is also online) ;
"Paul Morphy - Sketch from the Chess World" by Max Lange, translated by Ernst Falkbeer ;
"Paul Morphy: His Later Life" by Charles Buck (can be read here: http://www.edochess.ca/batgirl/CA_B... ) ;
"Poems and prose sketches, with a biographical memoir of Paul Charles Morphy" by Louis Albert Morphy (the Paul Morphy part can be read here: http://www.edochess.ca/batgirl/Loui... )
That should hold you a while.
|May-13-16|| ||WuldCahmpion: The next American great of Morphy and Fischer's caliber and who will be World Champion will be born in 2031. It seems like a once a century event for American greatness in Chess.|
|May-16-16|| ||thegadfly: <SBC> thank you for sharing that valuable information! That will definitely hold me for a while. I love to read about Morphy and I, like many others, find his chess more than enjoyable. Thanks again.|
|Jun-22-16|| ||DrKurtPhart: hb pcm \\ 179 //|
|Jun-22-16|| ||SBC: getting up in years.|
|Jun-22-16|| ||TheFocus: Happy birthday, Paul Morphy.|
|Aug-17-16|| ||Atking: Does someone know what kind of chess set Morphy uses on the picture. It doesn't look like a Staunton chess set...|
|Aug-17-16|| ||zanzibar: Perhaps someone more knowledgeable can offer a real answer, but till then, I can offer this:|
It looks like this set comes close:
|Aug-18-16|| ||Atking: Thanks a lot <zanzibar>! Indeed it looks very close.|
|Feb-11-17|| ||The Rocket: Paul Morphy is the most gifted chess player of all time in my opinion.
Robert Fischer doesn't even come even close, as great as he was his during the final candidate run. Fischer trained like a dog and did not totally dominate until the 70s.|
Morphy's opposition was around 15-1800 level, but given the limited chess theory that era, Morphy's play is by far the highest. He practically invented parts of the game, in particular the crucial aspect of piece development. Some of his attacks were a bit Gung Ho and frankly unsound, but that could be in part due to the suboptimal opposition.
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