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|Mar-04-16|| ||Jambow: Ok Sara aka <SBC> no offence but I'm sort of a motor head so I needed to look up your profile and make sure your initials weren't for Small Block Chevy...|
|Mar-04-16|| ||tamar: <SBC> Distressing to me that I can purvey false information while looking directly at a text. As you say, people see what they want to see. I expected the Haiti account to be about Paul's father.|
It was Diego Jr, not Paul's father Alonso (born Nov 23,1798), who escaped in the following account from Lawson.
<He placed his infant son in a market basket and covered him in vegetables. Diego then sent him, along with his mother, who was disguised as a produce vendor, to board an English vessel at anchor in the harbor.>
|Mar-04-16|| ||morfishine: <Jambow> I like your insight into Morphy, especially your note of being a polymath genius. Clearly, there was something unique about Morphy|
|Mar-04-16|| ||SBC: |
According to "Old Families of Louisiana," Diego Sr became vice-consul for Spain while living in Charleston, SC and upon moving to New Orleans, became consul for Spain. When Diego Sr died in 1814, his son Diego Jr, who arrived in a basket, became vice-consul and in 1818 became consul and moved to Natchez. Jr was a highly regarded scholar who wrote a book on Spanish idioms and a French, Spanish and English dictionary. He also translated many works into various languages. It wasn't until 1819 that Alonzo was admitted to the bar and he became attorney general for the state of Louisiana in 1829. Two years after Paul, his third child, was born that he was appointed to the Louisiana Supreme Court, the position he held when he died in Nov. of 1856.
|Mar-05-16|| ||Jambow: <morfishine> glad you found my opinion insightful, thank you. |
On a more personal note relating to my Ancestry DNA results. My GEDMATCH analysis came in so I looked them over. Native American showed up with there loci and algorithms. Surprise surprise, not sure if Mr. Morphy is Subsaharian African or not but I am. Ok only about 1% but I'm applying to the United Negro college fund ASAP, a drop is a drop. An education and a Casino things are really looking up. ;0]
Seriously I guess if you spent a few bucks on an Ancestry DNA kit, you can run it through GEDMATCH and find more than hey you're European. The Caucus results were much more clearly defined too, looks like Turkey/Syria right in the hot zone.
|Mar-09-16|| ||SBC: Images of Morphy: https://www.chess.com/article/view/...|
|Mar-23-16|| ||zanzibar: I tried to find it on <CG>, but I don't think the following game is on <CG>. Has anybody ever seen it?|
[FEN "rnbqkbnr /pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/1NBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.Ng5 d5 5.exd5 Nxd5 6.Nxf7 Kxf7 7.Qf3+
Ke6 8.Nc3 Nd4 9.Bxd5+ Kd6 10.Qf7 Be6 11.Bxe6 Nxe6 12.Ne4+ Kd5 13.c4+
Kxe4 14.Qxe6 Qd4 15.Qg4+ Kd3 16.Qe2+ Kc2 17.d3+ Kxc1 18.O-O# 1-0
It's from ACJ v3-4 (1878-79) p174/193
|Mar-23-16|| ||jnpope: <Has anybody ever seen it?>|
A few times...
<The Chess Monthly, v2, 1858.12, p371;
info: Mr. Paul Morphy gives an Amateur of New Orleans the Queen's Rook.>
<Morphy's games of chess, and Frere's problem tournament, 1859, p99>
<Choix des parties les plus remarquables jouées par Paul Morphy en Amérique, 1859, pp42-43>
<Morphy's Games, 1860, Appleton, pp453-455>
<Morphy's Games, 1860. Bohn, pp403-404>
<St. Louis Globe-Democrat, 1878.09.29,
<Paul Morphy. Skizze aus der Schachwelt, 2nd ed., 1881, p89;
<Paul Morphy, Maróczy, 1909, pp103-104>
<Paul Morphy, Lawson, 1976, p356; info: 1854, Paul Morphy vs Alonzo Morphy>
<Paul Morphy and the Evolution of Chess Theory, game 89>
|Mar-23-16|| ||zanzibar: Ha, so it's bona fide I assume.
Wonder why it's not on <CG> then? (Or did I miss it?)
Do you have a guess as to NN is? My source hints around about it...
|Mar-23-16|| ||zanzibar: Oh, I take that back, having looked a little harder...|
Turns out <CG> thinks NN is A. Morphy and that the game is from 1850:
Morphy vs A Morphy, 1850
Not what was suggested in ACJ. Is there a consensus from all those other sources? I assume they don't all get weighted the same.
|Mar-23-16|| ||zanzibar: Yes, the ACJ source was in turn Ballard. Funny that your ref |
<St. Louis Globe-Democrat, 1878.09.29, info: Morphy-Ballard>
and ACJ merely suggests that NN could be Ballard.
|Mar-23-16|| ||jnpope: Lawson gives Alonzo Morphy, but I'm not sure what his original source was for this game. All of the info I have is attached to my source citations.|
|Mar-23-16|| ||zanzibar: OK, thanks <jn>, I was just posting an aside while researching <Paris (1878)>.|
Maybe I'll look at the game in CM later, it appears to be the oldest source.
|Mar-30-16|| ||SBC: <Zanzibar>
Shibut - Game 089
Maroczy - Game 096
Sergeant - Game CCXCVII
"The names of a number of Morphy’s opponents were not known until years later in some cases, and others will never be known. Maurian, in his chess column in the New Orleans Sunday Delta, frequently referred to Morphy’s opponents as ‘Amateurs.” As, for example, when he published the game in which Paul checkmated his father by castling on his eighteenth move. Maurian published the game in 1858, but not until 1884 was the name of Paul’s opponent known.
After Morphy's death Maurian wrote to the New Orleans Times-Democrat of July 27, 1884.
'The subjoined curious little partie at odds [Queen's Rook], which is given in the various collections of Morphy's games simply as an Amateur, will acquire renewed interest for the chess world when it is stated that the Amateur in question was in fact Morphy's father, Judge Alonzo Morphy, and that the game was played about the year 1850, when the great master was hardly thirteen years old'
Sergeant was never aware of this relationship of the opponents in Morphy’s Games of Chess, in which the game appears as GAME CCXCVII" -Lawson p.82.
So both the original game score and the later 1884 revelation that Alonzo was Morphy's opponent came from de Maurian himself.
|Apr-02-16|| ||Phony Benoni: <Morphy's Law>:
"If anything can go wrong -- you're playing chess."
|Apr-07-16|| ||chancho: A segment from the article: <A Chess Champion’s Dominance—and Madness>|
<Morphy returned to New Orleans an international celebrity but settled into a strangely subdued mood; he said he hadn’t done as well as he should have.
He finally embarked on a law career, but interrupted it at the outbreak of the Civil War.
He opposed secession, and felt torn between his loyalties to the Union and to Louisiana, but he journeyed to Richmond to see Confederate General P.G.T. Beauregard, a family friend, about the possibility of securing a diplomatic position.
Some accounts suggest that he served as a volunteer aid to Beauregard (even gathering intelligence for the Confederates during the First Battle of Manassas), but others say the general deemed Morphy unqualified to serve, on or off the battlefield.>
|Apr-21-16|| ||Joshka: Does anyone know, what's the significance of placing one's hand inside your jacket at breast level? I see this very often in photos from the 19th Century. thanks in advance!!|
|Apr-21-16|| ||TheFocus: <Joshka> Google "Hand in waistcoat".|
Commonly, it denoted leadership.
I always wondered about that myself.
|Apr-28-16|| ||Joshka: <TheFocus> Hey thanks, I guess I just don't realize you can use google for just about everything!LOL;-)|
|Apr-28-16|| ||TheFocus: <Joshka> You're welcome.|
Me and Google are old friends.
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