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| Nov-16-11 | | JoergWalter: <SimonWebbsTiger>
yes, that was thoughtless of me. Sorry. |
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| Nov-16-11 | | LIFE Master AJ: I copied this here, (from my forum); as I still get asked this question in e-mails from time to time ... <<Nov-16-11 leonie: Mr. Goldsby, please excuse me for posting here but I do not like the page with the game of Paul Morphy any more. You have been helpful and so I shall copy this here again, if you do not mind. It is about 6....Qd7 and I cannot find it in your analysis. You show that 7....Qd7 is bad. leonie: Mr. Goldsby, is it true?
The oldest and probably best defense (see Atwood vs. Wilson, 1801 posted previously) is 6....Qd7!.> > Paul Morphy - The Count of Isouard & The Duke of Brunswick
[C41]
Paris, 1858.
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 Bg4 4.dxe5 Bxf3 5.Qxf3 dxe5 6.Bc4,  click for larger view 6...Nf6;
Technically speaking, this natural developing move is actually a mistake. However, I want to emphasize that Black has a TERRIBLE (nearly losing!) game here ... nothing he does will change that. (ALL the engines agree - the eval's are either that White is MUCH better, or even nearly winning ...) All the good analysts (Hubner, Timman, Nunn, etc.); agree that 6...Qf6 was the best move for Black ... in a pretty bad situation. Your 6...Qd7?! is inferior ... the is just a (long-term) target on d7. (However, I should point out that 6...Qd7; was probably still an improvement over the actual game!) Here is an analysis that I began last night - and finished this morning. (I don't consider it exhaustive, but just shows how Black will NOT escape his difficulties from the diagrammed position.) [6...Qd7!?; (Really - '?!') 7.0-0 Nf6; 8.Rd1, (8.Nc3!?) 8...Qg4; 9.Qd3! Nc6; 10.f3 Qg6; 11.Bb5 Bc5+!?; 12.Be3 Bxe3+; 13.Qxe3 Nd7;
To protect c6, if Black gets doubled Pawns here, the game is virtually over. 14.Nc3 a6;
Black must do something. Castling on the Q-side looks very dangerous, and ...0-0?? just drops a on the d7-square. 15.Bxc6 Qxc6; 16.Nd5 Nf6; 17.Qa3! Nxd5; 18.Rxd5 f6; 19.Rad1, White is much better. " "] 7.Qb3 Qe7 8.Nc3 c6 9.Bg5 b5 10.Nxb5 cxb5 11.Bxb5+ Nbd7 12.0-0-0 Rd8 13.Rxd7 Rxd7 14.Rd1 Qe6 15.Bxd7+ Nxd7 16.Qb8+ Nxb8 17.Rd8# 1-0 |
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| Nov-16-11 | | LIFE Master AJ: I just re-submitted the Neverov-Chahrour game ... its the most forceful example of the 6.Qb3 line that I can find. (I submitted it many months ago now ...) Most of the time, 6.Qb3 is purely transpositional. (7.Bc4 is usually played next.) However, one VERY GOOD reason to play 6.Qb3 immediately is that Black seems virtually forced to play the weakening 6...b6. Also - in some games I found on the Internet - White sometimes want to follow this up with a pin ( b5) of Black's QN; if it goes to c6 ... the doubling of those Pawns is probably decisive, if Black allows that to happen. There are some other aspects to 6.Qb3, like White may want to delay bringing out his LSB and play Nc3 and 0-0-0 as I (also) found in the DB. [(Again) - see the V. Neverov - M. Chahrour game that I already posted somewhere - above.] |
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| Nov-16-11 | | JoergWalter: 6.... Qd7! (best in that position)
7.0-0 Nc6
8. c3 Nf6
9.Rd1 Bd6
10.Bg5 Qg4!
What more can you expect from an inferior opening? |
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| Dec-17-11 | | Penguincw: A very creative game by Morphy. |
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Jan-04-12
 | | kingscrusher: I have video annotated this game here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oy_V... |
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| Jan-04-12 | | JoergWalter: well done video. thanks <kingscrusher> |
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| Jan-05-12 | | Penguincw: < kingscrusher > Another classic. Thanks. |
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| Feb-14-12 | | LIFE Master AJ: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny7k...
I also have a video on this game ... over 600 views now ... |
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| Feb-24-12 | | Nemesistic: After 4.dxe wouldn't it be better for Black to play 4...Nc6?, gambiting a pawn instead of what transpired? Or is that even worse than 4...Bxf3?? Which we know causes Blacks first probem? Why not 4.dxe ...Nc6 5.exd ...Bd6 6.Bb5 ...a6/...Nge7 ?? |
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| Feb-24-12 | | SimonWebbsTiger: @<Nemesestic>
some people try the gambit from time to other - eg. Kramnik, of all people to play a dubious gambit against(!), faced it in a simultaneous display - but it's not really good. Khalifman provides one example of how white develops and ends up a sound pawn ahead in <Opening According to Anand> Vol. 1 |
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| Feb-24-12 | | Nemesistic: <SimonWebbsTiger> I just played against the Philidor on a friends computer against an engine (some version of shredder! I don't know too much about engines compared to you guys!) from the position i went with above after Black plays 6...a6 and i ended up in this position below..White to play I can't post a diagram so..
W..Kf1/ pawns on a7 and h3/ Rg7
B...Ke5/ pawns on f3,g5,h5/ Ra2
There's just no way i can promote that a pawn is there? Anyway i resigned, but even though i attained that position you said was bad for Black after 6...a6, this is the best i could personally do lol.. Saying that its the closest iv got, and probably ever will get to beating an engine lol There's no draw here is there? |
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Mar-21-12
 | | Nightsurfer: Hi <Phony Benoni>, I have just read your assessment of the tactics of Paul Morphy's opponents - your assessment dating back to May 6th, 2011, sorry for the delay in paying attention to your contribution! I would like to stress that you have made a most valuable point by stating that <" ... for the most part, Black doesn't play this game horribly. Sure, 3...Bg4 and 7...Qe7 are probably not good, and 9...b5 is just asking for it. But for the most part, D&C make reasonable moves ...">. Yes, you are right! Many of those moves that D&C have executed are quite plausible. Therefore the average amateur player, after somehow having stumbled by chance into the dubious line 3. ... Bg4? pp. , would tend to play the same way the duo D&C has tried to get out of their mess back then at Paris. With the result that sometimes a strange case of replay can be put on the board, herewith a stunning case - R Gralla vs S Stojanovic, 2008 - that has happened FOR REAL 150 (!) years after <Paul Morphy vs Duke Karl / Count Isouard, Paris 1858> at Hamburg, Germany. And I can tell you, for sure: that game R Gralla vs S Stojanovic, 2008 is not a fake! |
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| Jun-01-12 | | theoreticaldraw: This is the first time I've played through this game in years. It's funny how black's practically busted after about 6 moves. |
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| Jun-01-12 | | Llawdogg: Some even say after three moves. |
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| Jun-02-12 | | chaamjamal: Hi <Nightsurfer>
Thanks for the Gralla Stojanovic 2008
eerie |
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| Jun-29-12 | | RMKvdS: Nice video <kingcrusher>. |
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Jul-21-12
 | | Nightsurfer: You're right, <chaamjamal>, I do agree with you: <"eerie">, that is the right way to describe that very strange event of second coming in 2008, namely during the rather incredible game R Gralla vs S Stojanovic, 2008 - 150 (!!) years after this game here <Paul Morphy vs Duke Karl / Count Isouard, Paris 1858>! |
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Nov-02-12
 | | perfidious: <FSR: ....Even better is 1.d4 d6 2.c4 (arguably a mistake!) e5!, which actually gives Black a plus score, <especially> if White trades queens....> At Philadelphia 1991, Gennadi Zaitshik played 1.d4 d6 against me (the only time I faced 1....d6), but after 2.c4, we transposed into a Saemisch KID. If I were to ever to reach the position after 1.d4 d6 2.c4 e5, my likely response would be 3.Nc3 with transposition into a variation normally reached via 1.c4 e5 2.Nc3 d6 3.d4. Not sure how much this really offers White, though surely there are improvements for him upon this smashing victory by someone who wasn't half bad as an attacker: Huebner vs Kasparov, 1985. |
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Nov-02-12
 | | perfidious: <FSR: <Domdaniel> If one likes the French, or 1.e4 e6 2.d4 c5!?, 1.d4 e6 is a good choice....> From time to time I played this for Black and even used the Kangaroo once against a booked-up 2100 player who was solid-anything to get him out of his preparation. <....I usually respond with 2.c4 as White, but am annoyed when I see 2...f5, since I'd rather play something else against the Dutch....> In the early days I used to play the same way, but later switched to 2.e4, though by then, the French had become one of my mainstays as Black. No-one ever played 1.d4 e6 2.e4 c5, though. <....I'm not overjoyed to play 2.Nf3, either, which rules out lines like the QG Exchange Variation with Nge2 and the Marshall Gambit, 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 c6 4.e4!?> Never cared for the idea 1.d4 e6 2.Nf3 myself, because I also favoured the Exchange QGD, though I was known to play the classical lines sometimes after 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 d5. Didn't always want to allow the Nimzo. |
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Nov-05-12
 | | FSR: GREATEST CHESS INSTRUCTIONAL RAP VIDEO EVAH!!! http://chicagochess.blogspot.com/20... |
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| Nov-14-12 | | The Last Straw: LOL, <FSR>. Ya posted ze same sing as a comment on ze page... |
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Nov-15-12
 | | OhioChessFan: http://chess.about.com/od/famousgam... |
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Jan-17-13
 | | Nightsurfer: Now - apart from that case of nearly replaying that brilliancy <Paul Morphy vs Duke Karl / Count Isouard (1858)> in R Gralla vs S Stojanovic, 2008 - one more case of more or less replaying <Paul Morphy vs Duke Karl / Count Isouard (1858)> has happened in R Schnelle vs H Niemoeller, 2001 ... at least until Black move no. 14 when Black tries the new riposte <14. ... Qb4>, though that has not helped anyway. |
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Feb-25-13
 | | Conrad93: This game looks like something that would be played on ICC. |
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