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May-09-05
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| alexmagnus: <rochade18><you can beat anyone who plays Qh5>. Even after Nakamura took this opening into his repertoir? (in blitz he plays it in almost every game..) |
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| Aug-05-05 |
| duu: I think that 1.e4 e5 2.Qh5 is a underestimated opening. It gives a level game, if black knows what to play, but isn't chess like that? I like the positions after, let's say
1.e4 e5 2.Qh5 Nc6 3.Bc4 g6 4. Qf3 Nf6 5.Ne2 |
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Aug-30-05
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| alexmagnus: 1.e4 e5 2.Qh5 Nc6 3.Bc4 g6 4.Qf3 f5!? 5.exf5 Nd4 6.Qe4 d6. How is the line going on? |
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| Aug-30-05 |
| Reegan Milne: <swapmeet> The queen's Pawn Counter Gambit,( or elephant Gambit) is simply a bad way to lose a pawn since after 3 exd5, black has no good way to keep the material balance, 3...Qxd5 4. Nc3 cost black too mcuh time while 3... e4 4.Qe2 doesnt work ( as you are discovering). The best hope, if any ,is 3....Bd6 aiming to mobilize the kingside pawn majority. English FM Johatham Rogers and German player and publisher stefan Bucker have analysed it extensively and are probly your best bet for practical examples of this idea. |
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Aug-31-05
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| alexmagnus: 6...Qf6 I mean |
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| Oct-20-05 |
| Averageguy: What do you kibitzers suggest that I play as white after 2.e5? I am a tactician, and I play mostly against 1500-1800 players, so what opening seems appropriate? |
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Oct-20-05
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| refutor: you mean 1.e4 e5? why not play the scotch or the two knights? (2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4, 3.Bc4 respectively). open lines, development etc. |
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| Oct-20-05 |
| Averageguy: Hm, I might give the scotch gambit (1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 exd4 4.c3) a try, but the italian often allows players as black to equalize and sometimes get the initiative, I play the black side Of the two knights defense and I often win due to superior initiative. I will ask my club champ who is rated at 1980-2000. Thanks for the advice. |
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Oct-20-05
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| refutor: good way to get initiative v. two knights is 4.d4. the play is closer to the scotch and avoids all the theoretical ilnes of 4.Ng5 d5 5.exd5 Na5 6.Bb5+ etc. incidentally, a line to try v. the two knights is bogoljubow's line 6. ...c6 7.dxc6 bxc6 8.Qf3 
click for larger view Bogoljubov vs Euwe, 1941 |
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| Oct-20-05 |
| e4Newman: wow, that's some fancy kibitzing refutor |
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Oct-20-05
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| who: yeah - how do you do that? |
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Oct-20-05
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| refutor: lol go to the kibitzer's cafe and look back at the last couple of days...if you enter the FEN of a position it will bring the position up |
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| Oct-20-05 |
| Averageguy: <refutor> You might have got me wrong, I said that I played the black side of the two knights defense, not the white side. |
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Oct-20-05
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| refutor: but i said if you wanted to try it as white and avoid the main lines that you claimed you got the initiative with as black. 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.d4 and the bogo line as above |
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| Oct-20-05 |
| Averageguy: Thanks, I think I understand now. |
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Feb-07-06
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| Knight13: Is the opening 1. e4 e5 2. Bb5 bad? |
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Feb-07-06
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| who: Presumably after 1.e4 e5 2.Bb5 c6 gives black the initiative. |
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| Feb-19-07 |
| southpawjinx: Here is another game I won with black. If there was a better way to play this please let me know!!
[Event "www.ChessWorld.net server game"]
[Site "www.ChessWorld.net "]
[Date "2007.1.26"]
[Round "NA"]
[White "JimDog"]
[Black "darthplutonius"]
[Result "0-1"]
[Termination "White resigned"]
[WhiteElo "1403"]
[BlackElo "1893"]
[Mode "ICS"]
[DateLastMove "2007.2.7"]
[ECO "C20"]
[Board "3320189"]
1.e4 e5 2.c3 Nf6 3.g4 d6 4.Bc4 Nxg4 5.Qf3 Qf6 6.Qxf6 Nxf6 7.f3 Be7 8.Na3 O-O 9.d3 Nbd7 10.Be3 c6 11.O-O-O d5 12.Nh3 Bxa3 13.bxa3 dxc4 14.dxc4 Nb6 15.c5 Nc4 16.Rde1 Nxe3 17.Rxe3 Bxh3 18.f4 Bg2 19.Rg1 exf4 20.Rd3 Bxe4 21.Rd4 Bd5 22.Rxf4 Bxa2 23.h4 h5 24.Rb4 Nd5 25.Rxb7 Nxc3 26.Kb2 Na4+ 27.Kxa2 Nxc5 28.Rb2 Ne6 29.Rd2 c5 30.Rd5 Rad8 31.Rxh5 Rd2+ 32.Ka1 g6 33.Re5 Rb8 34.Rb1 Rxb1+ 35.Kxb1 Rh2 36.a4 Rxh4 37.a5 Ra4 38.Rd5 Rxa5 39.Rd2 a6 White resigned 0-1 |
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| Apr-20-07 |
| M.D. Wilson: Just play 1.c5 ... |
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| May-06-07 |
| HFlew: I find it hilarious that one of the practitioners as Black is "NN"! |
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| Oct-16-07 |
| valuim97: There is a trap: 1.e4 e5 2. e2 f6 3.f4 ef4 4.f4 e4? 5. e2 e7 6.d5 e3 7.bc3 c6(best) 8.d4! d4 9.e4 cd5 10.d6  d8 11.e8 c7 12.b5WOW! |
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| May-31-09 |
| GrahamClayton: <duu>I think that 1.e4 e5 2.Qh5 is a underestimated opening. It gives a level game, if black knows what to play, but isn't chess like that? 1.e4 e5 2.h5 is historically known as the Danvers Opening. The opening was played in the first decade of the 20th century in the US by EE Southard. Southard was a doctor and a specialist on mental diseases at the Danvers Insane Hospital. Edward Winter - Chess Notes #1732 |
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Jul-14-09
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| sisyphus: I'm disappointed. For all the many lines covered by C20, most of the kibitzing is devoted to 2.Qh5 and 2.Bb5. There's nothing about the popular 2.d3, only one about 2.Ne2 and 2.c3 each, and nothing about that historical landmark Napoleon's Opening (2.Qf3). |
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| Jul-15-09 |
| MaxxLange: White's game is already in its last throes. What's the point of arguing about 2. c3 vs 2 Qh5 or 2 Nc3? |
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Jul-30-09
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| whiteshark: Opening of the Day
<Alapin's Opening <1.e4 e5 2.Ne2>> 
click for larger viewOpening Explorer |
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