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NN vs Gioachino Greco
Miscellaneous Game (1620), ?, rd 36
Bishop's Opening: Boi Variation (C23)  ·  0-1
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Sep-13-04
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  Knight13: White tried Scholar's Mate, but Scholar's Mate dosen't work against masters. 6. Qxe5 is a blunder since the bishop is on c5 and the king on e8. Nice short game.
Nov-14-04  yoozum: yeah, very interesting an informative game for those who want to crush people who think they can easily crush you.
Nov-14-04  yoozum: in russia this opening is called "child's mate" as only children and idiots are able to get mated this way.
Nov-14-04
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  Sneaky: Simply 7.Kf1 and White could still try to make a game of it.
Jan-26-05
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  alexmagnus: The Scholarīs īMate may be not so simple if you mix the idea of the Scholarīs mate with attacking a figure - many amateur players can fall in it. Here is my shortest win against a player, who was much higher rated than me: Kampfgeist(1263) - Mrshankly (1771)
Playchess.com, 10+3-blitz.
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.0-0 Bc5 6.Nxe5 Nxe5 6.d4 b5 7.Bb3 Be7? 8.dxe5 Nxe4?? 9.Qf3, and black resigned. Look also Lieb vs Spassky, Munich 1979.
P.S. To be true until the end - a week later after the written game Mrshankly took rematch simply demolishing me in 19 moves.... If somebody wants, I will write this game.
Mar-19-05  Mate Hunter: <Knight13>,
6.Qxe5 isn't a blunder, 7.Kxf2 was a blunder. If white had play 7.Kf1 (the best), 7.Ke2 or 7.Kd1 black couldn't play 7...Ng4+, black can only play 7...Ng4 then.
Sep-25-07  wolfmaster: 3. Qh5... just the type of bonehead move NN would play.
Jun-08-09  WhiteRook48: and then NN's Q would escape
Oct-21-09  Wayne Proudlove: There are 77 Greco games on record, all against the anonymous NN. It is thought that they are possibly constructs as they have an educational tone to them for spotting opening traps.
Oct-21-09  Atking: <Wayne Proudlove> I think Greco saw many usual mistake from his opponents and decided to put them for ever on a book. He was clearly too talented for this period. I like especially the way he plays the queen. Let's see this one 1.e4 e6 2.d4 Nc6 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.Bd3 Be7 5.h4?! 0-0 6.e5 Nd5 7.Bxh7+!! (At time completely new) 7...KxB 8.Ng5+ BxN 9.hxB+ Kg6 10.Qh5+ Kf5 11.Qh7+! g6 12.Qh3+ Ke4 13.Qd3#! A better version of this "Greco's idea" -Ne5/e4 forking f7/f2 and g4/g5- is 1.e4 e5 2.f4 exf 3.Bc4 Qh4+ 4.Kf1 g5 5.Nf3 Qg4? 6.Bxf7+! (In his book too) Later I note that 5...Qh5 6.h4 h6 7.Bxf7+!? could be fun too. As 7...QxB 8.Ne5! Qg7 9.Qh5+ Kd8 10.Nf7+ Ke7 11.NxR and 12.hxg with, for N and B, a R and a strong passed pawn.
Aug-02-16  Frits Fritschy: White may actually be a little better after 7 Ke2(!). It threatens to exchange queens and then take the bishop, and after 7... Qxe5 8 Nxe5, the pawn on f7 is also under attack. Black probably has to play 7... Bb6. After 8 d3, 8... Qxe5 9 Nxe5 0-0 10 Bg5 gets black in some trouble and 8... d6 9 Qxe7+ Kxe7 10 Bg5 also promises black headaches because of the half-open f-file and maybe later the weakness of the d6 pawn. This version of the 'scholar's mate' is quite playable for white!

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