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John William Schulten vs Paul Morphy
New York 1857  ·  King's Gambit: Falkbeer Countergambit. Charousek Gambit Morphy Defense (C31)  ·  0-1
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Jun-27-05  ckr: <SBC What a mess>
Indeed, but the final assessment is Not a Blindfold (!?)

He was blindfolded!?

<SnoopDogg: Yes he was, so Morphy's Games of Chess by P.W. Sergeant says SnoopDogg:>

Foul! Bad Form! Unfair! what edition?

Jun-27-05
Premium Chessgames Member
  Calli: <SBC> Yes, its a typo :-O. Clarity is provided in the "Blindfold Games" chapter introduction:

"The earliest recorded examples .... are four games played during his visit to New York....three of these against Louis Paulsen who was without sight of board". - Sergeant (you know having not looked at this book for many years, I always thought it was SARgeant)

Aug-03-05  vinohradska: 9. bxc3 seems like a feeble move.
Aug-12-05  Robin001: I looked this game up in the book "Chess from Morphy to Botwinnik," by Imre Konig, and it says it is not a blindfold game.
Jan-10-06  morpstau: A Morphy game always consists of the following ... 1. superior force and development 2. A weaker opponent and a completely exposed and nude king. 3. The game ending in Morphy pronouncing mate in a few forced moves. The way in which he tears up his opponents like whimpering rag dolls is relative to a wolf and a mouse; a little appettizer!
Feb-08-06  whatthefat: <morpstau>

Yeah, always...
Paulsen vs Morphy, 1857

Still can't find the mate he must have announced though. :P

Honestly, how can you stand to be so biased? Wouldn't you appreciate Morphy's brilliance even more if you accepted that he was mortal?

Feb-08-06
Premium Chessgames Member
  Boomie: What is astonishing to me is that Morphy was such a formidable blindfold player that we can't tell from the game. Ah, if only he could have played at Amber.
Nov-14-07
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  nimh: Rybka 2.4 mp, AMD X2 2.01GHz, 10 min per move, threshold 0.33.

Schulten 4 mistakes:
12.dxc6 -2.83 (12.h3 0.17)
13.Kf1 -4.20 (13.Bc3 -2.81)
15.Qb1 -6.43 (15.Rb1 -4.36)
16.Kf2 #8 (16.Kg1 -6.09)

Morphy no mistakes!

Jan-29-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  Calli: This game is not Blindfold or match. Correction submitted.
Apr-28-08  LoveThatJoker: Can someone please explain what happens if instead of 11. c4, White plays 11. Nf3.
Apr-28-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  tamar: If 11 Nf3 Bxf3 12 gxf3 Qe7 and White cannot even castle.
May-01-08  LoveThatJoker: TY, tamar. After 12...Qe7 it does look totally brain busting for White to even attempt to try and hold the position. Obviously 13. c4 would be in order at that point to protect the pawn. And then trying to activate the rooks some how to assist in the defence. Positionally White is still devastated, but I will say that it looks like he has a better chance in fighting it out and not getting mated as quickly.

What do you think?

LTJ

May-01-08  LoveThatJoker: Emphasis on the 'as quickly' part. :)

LTJ

May-01-08
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  tamar: <LoveThatJoker> I imagine Morphy would try to open the game against 13 c4 as he did against 11 c4 in the game. So I would suggest 13...c6 although the computers favor a positional edge gained by 13...Nh5 and winning the f4 pawn eventually.
Jul-14-08
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  IMlday: 10.Kf2!? is an improvement.
Jul-14-08
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: Did Wilhelm Steinitz ever annotate this game? I have heard that he was fond of pointing out that many famous attacks were unsound and that the defense should have won.

I ask because 6...e3 and 7...0-0 always seemed somehow a bit fishy to me. <nimh> passes on Rybka's analysis that Morphy made no mistakes, but I don't know...

Jul-14-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  IMlday: Steinitz would have liked 10.Kf2 Qxd5 11.Nf3 Ng4+ 12.Kg3 with an active K and central control. Instead of 6..e3
Bronstein preferred 6..0-0.
Jul-14-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  nimh: <I ask because 6...e3 and 7...0-0 always seemed somehow a bit fishy to me.>

Rybka and Fritz 11 both prefer the aforecited moves.

Jul-14-08
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: So it looks like we'll have to run 10.Kf2 past the silicon monsters and see what they think. Thanks for the feedback, everyone.
Sep-05-10  jed44: nearly all of morphy's games were
works of art. of course 150 years
of analysis will find a flaw or
two in some games..but the opponents
sitting across from him had no such
advantage..how do you think you would
fare with a living Morphy?
Dec-16-10  Llawdogg: I remember analyzing this game with a King's Gambit expert. He said that Schulten was actually OK through the first eleven moves, despite some inaccurate play. 12 dxc6 was the real blunder. This enabled Morphy to naturally develop the knight by recapturing the pawn. The rook sacrifice on the next move is then made possible because the knight can follow it in. Before move twelve, white can defend. After move twelve, Morphy is unstoppable. I was taught that if you call a move a mistake, then you have to suggest a better one. So, 12 Nf3 would have been better than dxc6.
Jan-31-11
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  KingG: It looks like White is ok after <IMlday>'s suggestion of 10.Kf2!?, but the way Schulten played doesn't seem so bad. The real mistake only came with the ridiculous 12.dxc6?, which in pretty unforgivable in an age that knew the value of quick development. Instead, 12.h3 seems to hold on.
May-17-12  Llawdogg: Yes, 12 h3 would have worked better.
Jun-24-12  e4 resigns: Schulten 4 mistakes:
12.dxc6 -2.83 (12.h3 0.17)
13.Kf1 -4.20 (13.Bc3 -2.81)
15.Qb1 -6.43 (15.Rb1 -4.36)
16.Kf2 #8 (16.Kg1 -6.09)

Do your tests also point out inaccuracies, or just mistakes? Seems Schulten might have made a few poor moves before move 12.

Aug-30-12  Llawdogg: This classic should be the game of the day some day.
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