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|Feb-11-05|| ||schnarre: <yoozum>i.e., Black is essentially out of luck at that point!? |
|Feb-12-05|| ||yoozum: Yes, pretty much. I was going through these types of easy checkmates on my board and I realized that in the majority of those positions, white can easily force a checkmake by sacing the bishop, moving the knight to gb, and then following up with queen to h5. Black is pretty much lost at that point. |
|Feb-12-05|| ||schnarre: <yoozum>Thought so. |
|Feb-14-05|| ||soberknight: Rarely do you find the Bxh7 sac as quickly as here, on white's ninth move. Supposedly, Greco published analysis of 1 e4 Nf6 2 e5 Nd5 3 d4 e6 (weaker than ...d6 in my opinion) 4 Nf3 Be7 5 Bd3 Nc6 6 h4 O-O? 7 Bxh7+, etc. Perhaps the so-called "Greek gift" sacrifice is derived from Greco's name. After all, you would expect a "Greek gift" to be a horse, not a bishop! :) |
|Feb-16-05|| ||schnarre: <soberknight> True enough! |
|Feb-16-05|| ||sneaky pete: <soberknight> The Greco "game" you refer to is Greco vs NN, 1620. |
|Feb-16-05|| ||schnarre: Thanks sneaky pete! |
|Feb-22-05|| ||soberknight: <sneaky pete> thanks for the clarification. |
|Feb-26-05|| ||schnarre: Anybody found another game like this one? |
|Nov-18-07|| ||Cibator: Well Soberknight, I once got to offer this sac on move 8 (one later than Greco, admittedly - but then a lot of his so-called "games" were spurious, concocted by him to boost his reputation). Casual game played at Sussex University, 1971:
If now (8)...Kxh7, White wins in the usual style with (9)Ng5+, etc. In the game Black declined the sac with ...Kh8, but still lost in fairly short order.
|Mar-12-08|| ||Tactic101: Nice instructive example of the classic bishop sac! Such a move, IMO, comes a lot more from intuition rather than calculation. Just take a look at it. Everything is ready for a killer on the kingside:|
A bishop on d3
A knight on f3, ready to check the king on g5 after accepting the sac
The rook on h1 (this is important, the rook often plays a big role in such a sac. The sac is much less effective if white has already castled).
Absolutely no defenders of the kingside! The e5 pawn is important. It prevented the knight to come to f6 and literally cuts the board in half.
That is, of course, the mere basics, but I've gotten the chance to pull this one off before. These pre-conditions are much more important than the actual calculation. Working it out is, of course, essential, but these basics make it much easier.
Sorry for the meaningless rant. :) It's nothing new or groundbreaking, like the work other people do around here.
|Mar-15-08|| ||Domdaniel: "Timeo danaos et dona ferentes."
According to Sir Myles Na Gopaleen, these were "two Greek gentlemen, Timofy Danaos and Dona Ferentes" who cooked up the original Bxh7 sac.
|Sep-30-08|| ||GrahamClayton: The formal title for the Melbourne Christmas tournaments was the "Pietzcker Christmas Tournament".|
In February 1925, Mr JA Pietzcker made a proposal to finance an annual Christmas tournament along the lines of the Hastings Chess Congress, which would raise the standard of Australian chess, as well as bringing players from all around Australia to Melbourne.
Pietzcker had represented New South Wales against Victoria in the annual telegraph match in 1897, and played in the inaugral New South Wales championship tournament in 1900, finishing 8th with a score of 3/9.
Here are the winners of the Pietzcker Christmas tournaments:
1925/26 G Gundersen (5.5/6)
1926/27 G Gundersen (4/4)
1927/28 SH Woinarski (4.5/5)
1928/29 FM Crowl & CG Watson (4/5)
1929/30 BW Stenhouse (6/8)
1931 (April) FA Crowl (4/5)
1931/32 FA Crowl (4.5/5)
1932 (Oct/Nov) CJS Purdy (6/7)
1933/34 CG Watson (6/7)
1935/36 FA Crowl (7.5/10)
1936/37 L Steiner (5.5/6)
1937/38 M Green & CG Watson (5.5/6)
1940 (Mar/Apr) S Lazare (4/6)
1940 (Dec) S Lazare (5/5)
|Sep-30-08|| ||GrahamClayton: Source: John van Manen "The Records of Australian Chess - Tournament and Match Tables - Volume II". Modbury Heights, 1987|
|Dec-07-08|| ||WhiteRook48: And White's Queen is en prise!!|
|Jan-27-09|| ||WhiteRook48: en passant and double check and mate all in one move is just great!|
|Jan-31-09|| ||WhiteRook48: I agree with the pun, this is really Faul Play.|
|Aug-21-10|| ||sfm: The final position looks like one of those "how did this position arise?"-puzzles.|
|Aug-21-10|| ||whiteshark: There's some hanky-panky going on.|
|Nov-03-10|| ||kevin86: Unique finish! The double discovered check was just that-the piece that moved does NOT deliver check!|
|Aug-21-11|| ||LIFE Master AJ: I have mated a few times with discovered check, never (before) had I seen that ended with "Pawn-Takes-Pawn (en passant) Mate." |
|Aug-21-11|| ||OhioChessFan: Chernev lists this game as "Gaudersen- Paul" in The Chess Companion.|
|Nov-14-11|| ||Rosbach: Just passing by, mate.|
|Nov-25-11|| ||Penguincw: Very rare to play en passant and mate. It's already fairly uncommon to see en passant or checkmate in a game but not both?!|
|Oct-05-12|| ||FSR: <kevin86: Unique finish! The double discovered check was just that-the piece that moved does NOT deliver check!>|
Yes. This is an extremely rare form of double check - one that very few players think of when asked to describe double check.
For more on mate by en passant (including a game I won that way), see http://chicagochess.blogspot.com/20... and the comments thereto.
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