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| Feb-02-07 |
| arifattar: In this game M Wind vs T Winckelmann, 1993 White plays 11.Kb5 and wins. |
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| Feb-03-07 |
| Atking: The difficulty of this game is that 2 sacrifices are not obviously connected. 3. ...Bxf2+!!? may be correct but with 5. ...Nf6 6.Qf3 (6.d3 Ng4+ 7.Kd2 Nf2 8.Qe1 Qf6 9.Nf3 NxRh1 10.Be2 d5! 11.QxNh1 dxe 12.dxe Nc6 13.c3 Qg6 14.Bd3 f5, Na4 and Bc1 are out play therefore black rook will be soo active Black is a better)6. ...Qe1+ (6. ...d5!?) 7.Qe2 (7.Ne2? d5!) 7. ...Qh4 8.Qf3 and draw. Otherwise 8.Kd3?! d5! 9.g3 dxe+ 10.Kc3 Nd5+ 11.Kb3 Qe7 Black is better 12.a3 Be6 13.c4 b5!! 14.cxNd5 Bxd5+ 15.Kc2 bxa4 16.Qe3 Nc6 17.Bb5 0-0 18.Ne2 Rab8 Or 12.c3 Bd7 13.Qxe4 Nf6 14.Qxb7 Qe6+ and 15. ...Bc6. The second sacrifice is one of the most beautiful of the chess literature. It seems correct and enought for a draw. I have no doubt that the queen sacrifice is the correct and courageous decision on the position. Else as nobody insist on 8.d4! suggested up I will do: 8. ...exd+ (8. ...Nc6 9.Nf3 Bg4 10.Bb5 exd+ 11.Qxd4 BxNf3 12.gxBf3 Qxf3+ 13.Be3 Rooks are connected) 9.Qxd4 Qe1+ 10.Bd2! QxRa1 11.Nf3 Qxa2 (Of course not 11. ...Kf8 12.Qxd5 with a mate in d8 and Bc4 which treats the Queen a1)12.Qxg7 QxNa4 (12. ...Nc6 13.Bb5 Be6 14.Bg5) 13.QxRh8 d4+ 14.Nxd4 Qa5+ 15.Kb3 QxBd2 16.QxNg8+ Ke7 17.Bc4 QxNd4 and now either 18.QxBc8 a5 19.Qxc7+ Nd7 20.Re1+ Kf8 21.Ka2 or 18.Qxf7+ Kd6 (18. ...Kd8? 19.Re1) 19.c3 Qd2 20.Qh5 for Rd1 is clearly better for White. |
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| Feb-04-07 |
| IMDONE4: <Sneaky> No problem, alot of people just plug stuff into their Fritz and expect it to be the perfect solution. Has 9.d4!? been discussed? cause I just looked at it and it looks like an interesting alternative to the forced draw. |
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| Jul-31-07 |
| Rook in the 7th rank: Queen and Knight advantage.... and itīs DRAW!!! I like that :-) |
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| Sep-10-07 |
| mallocks: I know it was ages ago but I was looking at the 7. Qe1 idea in Rybka. Suggested line goes:
7...Nf6 8.g3 Qg4 9.c3 Bf5 10.exf5 Qxf5+ 11.Ke2 Qe4+ 12.Kd1 Qxh1 13.Qxe5+
and things are far more balanced and it's looking (comparatively) more like a typical chess game. 
click for larger view For what it's worth final valuation after 13.Qxe5+ that point has black with a small advantage of 0.28 at 20-ply (13... Kd8 14.Qd4 Qxh2 15.Ne2 Re8 16.d3 Qh5 17.Qf2 Ng4 18.Qd4 Nh2 19.Qxg7 Nxf1 20.Qf6+). I think I prefer the game as it was played, the position at the end of the line above doesn't have quite the same feel to it somehow :) |
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| Jan-26-08 |
| littlefermat: I just played though this game--honestly I'm at a total loss for words. Who/why?! would anybody play like this?? |
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| Feb-28-08 |
| Abejorral: What a dumb invention of a game |
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Feb-29-08
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| Eric Schiller: Compare this similar game:
[Event "?"]
[Site "New York"]
[Date "1981"]
[Round ""]
[White "Schiller, Eric"]
[Black "Shipman, Walter"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[Eco "B00"]
[Annotator ""]
[Source ""]
1.e4 Nc6 2.Bc4 e5 3.d3 Na5 4.Bxf7+ Kxf7 5.Qh5+ Ke6 6.Qf5+ Kd6
7.d4 Kc6 8.Qxe5 d5 9.exd5+ Kb6 10.Nc3 Qe7 11.Na4+ Kb5 12.Nc3+
Kb6 13.Bf4 Bf5 1/2-1/2 |
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| Feb-29-08 |
| Abejorral: I compared them, and i find them both dumb and boring prefabrications. |
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| Jul-19-08 |
| dw98: Heidenfeld notes that he suggested 11.Kb5! in Deutsche Schachzeitung 1972 and he goes on analyze 11...a5 and 11...Ne7! 12.c4! as improvements for white in explaining why he left this game out of his collection of best drawn games in "Draw!" He also gives 3...Be7 as the correct way to punish the improper early Na4. And prefers 12.Kc3 to 12.Kc5?. |
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| Jul-19-08 |
| dw98: Heidenfeld's analysis is identical to mr.basso's given here earlier. |
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| Jan-05-09 |
| WhiteRook48: queen sacrifice to force a draw!! |
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Jan-22-09
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| FSR: Soltis mentions 11.Kb5 in King Power in Chess, pp. 74-75. He says that Black must still play 11...a5, after which Heidenfeld's suggestion 12.Qe2 is met by 12...Ne6!!, when the threat of 13...Bd7 forces 13.Ka4 Nc5+ 15.Kb5 Ne6 with a draw by repetition. "Therefore, in order to win, White must try other methods. Two promising ones are 12.P-QN4!? (Kastner) and 12.P-B4! (Presley)." Deep analysis, huh? :P I know that Mednis was referring to analysis that was published in Chess Life magazine - although he unfortunately fails to mention that, let alone provide the date so the reader can investigate further. |
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Jan-22-09
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| FSR: See http://www.kenilworthchessclub.org/... for much more analysis. Among other things, the author says that 9...Qxa4+!! draws by force, but that 9.d4 cxd4 10.Bxa6 bxa6 11.Nc5! wins for White. |
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| Feb-21-09 |
| WhiteRook48: why not 18. Ka4? |
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Feb-21-09
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| FSR: <WhiteRook48> After 18.Ka4?? Bc4!, it's hasta la vista, baby (19...b5#). |
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| Feb-21-09 |
| WhiteRook48: thanks. Silly me. |
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| Mar-19-09 |
| WhiteRook48: at first I thought 19 Kxb7?? Kd7! |
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Mar-20-09
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| parmetd: this might be the best draw ever. there is good analysis in Art of Attack on this game. |
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| Jun-13-09 |
| WhiteRook48: on move 14, why does he not take the bishop? |
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| Jul-31-09 |
| DanielBryant: <WhiteRook48>
However Black chooses to take the bishop, it allows White to at least temporarily escape the mating net. If White can at all consolidate, he's winning since Black has invested a queen. |
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| Aug-05-09 |
| lolototo: The game that started Kramnik's career - the most influential game of all time for him! |
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Aug-13-09
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| LIFE Master AJ: http://main.uschess.org/content/vie... |
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| Oct-21-09 |
| Qb6: What's wrong with 17. Kxb7? |
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| Oct-21-09 |
| backrank: If 17. Kxb7??, so Kd7! 18. Qg4+ Kd6! followed by Rhb8#. As already mentioned above by <parmetd>, this game is analysed in Vukovic' classic 'The art of attack'. However, one can argue a lot about the verdict 'the best draw ever'. Read Heidenfeld's book 'Draw!' to learn something about the best draws ever :) |
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