|Apr-10-06|| ||TheKid: The Vienna Game was first called Hamppe's Game, according to Gary Lane in his book The Vienna Game. |
Naturally he never won with it :)
|Apr-10-06|| ||TheKid: Oh, scratch that!
He did win with it once.
|Jul-30-06|| ||waddayaplay: found this on the net...
Carl Hamppe was a senior government official in Vienna...
he won the Vienna championship in both 1859 and 1860, both times ahead of Steinitz (among others).
|Oct-16-08|| ||just a kid: I know him most for being White in the Immortal Draw.|
|Nov-02-08|| ||Octal: He seems to be as responsible with his king's safety as NN.|
|Jan-26-10|| ||GrahamClayton: Those two matches with Lowenthal and Falkbeer must have been pretty entertaining - 40 games and not a single draw, yet he is remembered for a drawn game!|
|Apr-19-11|| ||Chessist: There is no evidence for the correctness of the results given (+4 -5 =0 and +16 -15 =0). You will not find any contemporary source.|
|Apr-14-12|| ||wwall: <Chessist>, I think the source of Hamppe's record with Lowenthal and Falkbeer come from Chess Player's Chronicle 1850 and Di Felice's Chess Results, 1757-1900.|
|Apr-14-12|| ||Calli: Don't know about the Loewenthal games, but Harrwitz gave all seven of their games in British Chess Review: http://books.google.com/books?id=qt...|
|Jun-11-12|| ||Chessist: <wwall>, The Chess Player`s Chronicle 1850, p 289:
"he [Hamppe] has been defeated by the celebrated L÷wental, but not disgracefully, since he won in the ratio of four to five. He played also with Mr. Falkbeer in the last month which the latter spent in Vienna, about thirty games, of which Mr. Hampe was only one or two ahead."|
"in the ratio of four to five" = "+4 -5 =0"??
"about thirty games" etc. = "+16 -15 =0"???
"Di Felice's Chess Result" is just trash
|Jun-11-12|| ||Calli: In his booklet on the Blackburne match, Steinitz credited Hamppe with idea of the Steinitz gambit.|
From page 38:
"The credit of the idea of boldly bringing out the King early in the game, and braving the hostile attack, merely for the sake of getting a better position of pawns, has been often erroneously ascribed to Steinitz, but it is only due to state that the Steinitz Gambit and the line of play adopted in this game owe their derivation from a favourite variation of Herr Hampe in Vienna, which usually went on as follows:"
Never seen this mentioned before.
|Jun-11-12|| ||ughaibu: Calli: Keypusher posted:
<During these few years [Steinitz] had much practice with Herr Hammppe [sic], the inventor of the opening named sometimes after himself, sometimes after the city in which he played. Hammppe frequently played out his king towards the centre of the board, in certain phases of the game. Here undoubtedly is to be traced the original inception of the "Steinitz Gambit," to the improvement of which the great player has devoted so much labour.>
<The Games of the St. Petersburg Tournament 1895-1896>, p. 6.
Here: Hamppe vs Steinitz, 1859
|Jun-13-12|| ||Calli: <ughaibu> Thanks! I didn't recall that conversation at all. Still, it's nice to have Steinitz's own words on the topic.|
|Nov-27-12|| ||Morphischer: A pic http://www.chessnc.com/biography/pe...|
|Jul-14-13|| ||Chessist: @Morphischer: the picture shows CA Walbrodt... rubbish!|
|Jul-14-13|| ||whiteshark: The German wiki bio is more comprehensive: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_H...|
|Jul-14-13|| ||RookFile: 16 wins against Falkbeer, 15 losses, 0 draws. These guys just went for the throat, I guess.|