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Wilhelm Steinitz vs Rock
"Rock Bottom" (game of the day Jul-22-2008)
London (1863) (unorthodox), London ENG
Chess variants (000)  ·  1-0
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Aug-09-10  Grantchamp: Poor rock
Aug-19-10  sevenseaman: Steinitz chose the appropriate opening in which Q rook is redundant. It was a brief encounter and he used every available piece.

A good study in minor pieces' and pawns' power in an isolated skirmish.

Mar-08-11  JustWoodshifting: Is this opening not C52: Italian Game: Evans Gambit: Normal Variation ?
Mar-08-11
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  Phony Benoni: <JustWoodshifting> Generally, no classification is assigned to games at odds. The advantage of classifying openings lies in the opportunity to conveniently study and compare similar variations. In odds games, these comparisons are unlikely to be valid because of the imbalance in material.
May-11-11  PawnOfProblems: So cool!! Who here likes this game???

-Problematic Pawn (p.s. I am new and is the #1 fan of King Kevin (kevins55555.))

May-16-11  JoergWalter: Morphy vs NN, 1857
Jul-09-11  LIFE Master AJ: My analysis of this game ...

http://www.ajschess.com/lifemastera...

(I could not figure out how to delete the White QR in the java script ...)

Jul-11-11  JoergWalter: <LIFE MASTER AJ> From your website:

<Nunn writes:
"A game won by Staunton from Cochrane some twenty years before, (which may have been known to Steinitz) ran ... >

What now about the game Morphy vs NN from my previous post? Was it known to Steinitz? (See Maroczy, Paul Morphy game 82)

<12...Nxb3; Black takes the Queen. (The computer suggests instead the move, 12...c6.) Now the game becomes one of [pure] pursuit of the Black King.> It is mate in 6, isn't it?

Jul-12-11  LIFE Master AJ: Could be - I am not sure ... (i don't have my analysis in front of me, i have so many files, i was unable to find the correct one ...)

Sorry - I am sure you are right.

Jul-15-11  JoergWalter: <LifeMasterAJ> in your analysis of the "James Bond Game" (Spassky vs. Bronstein) you wrote:

<All kidding and jokes aside, this is a marvelous game. (R.J. Fischer, upon seeing this game, immediately wanted to classify it as one of the "Ten Greatest" of all time!)>

Somewhere else I read that Fischer would also consider the Staunton vs. Cochrane (mentionend by Nunn in the analysis of Steinitz vs Rock)one of the ten best games ever.

Can you provide the list of games Fischer considered the ten greatest games?

Oct-19-11  Whitehat1963: Steinitz gives the Rock a smackdown.

"He'll knock ya to tomorrow, Rock!"

Oct-19-11  sevenseaman: What a morale clattering smack!
Mar-22-12
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  whiteshark: In the real world, paper never beats rock.
Jul-31-12  andyatchess: Yes very similar to Morphy vs NN!
Aug-26-12
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  TheTamale: And hence the nickname "The Austrian Morphy." But I don't think anyone believes The Rock ever lost this quickly.
Aug-26-12
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  perfidious: < TheTamale: ....I don't think anyone believes The Rock ever lost this quickly.>

In my avocation, rocks don't-they hang around for a while and outlast many players, but don't get to the real money-at the very top.

Apr-08-13  Llawdogg: Wow Wilhelm! Rook odds and a queen sacrifice.
Mar-20-14  john barleycorn: Steinitz, the old cheat, just copied Morphy

Morphy vs NN, 1857

Jan-29-15  poorthylacine: The rook at a1 could have been available, it would not have changed anything!!
Jan-29-15  RookFile: Black plays to open lines while behind in development with an uncastled king. I wonder what's going to happen?
May-26-17
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  whiteshark: Wilhelm, you are a rock star!
Oct-04-18  chidox carlsen: Nice game from steinitz..
The Evans Gambit is like an immortal game
Dec-28-18  HarryP: Beautiful!
Jan-22-19
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  louispaulsen88888888: Steinitzí play was exact. He took nothing for granite.
Aug-05-19  Chesgambit: Morphy vs NN, 1857
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