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Jul-22-08
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| SpoiltVictorianChild: <<Rock: No, but if you hum it I'll fake it.>> hahahaha |
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| Jul-22-08 |
| maelith: If you smell what the rock is cooking!! |
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| Jul-22-08 |
| apple pi: Alternative Pun: Skirt Steak |
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| Jul-23-08 |
| AnalyzeThis: I never understood why all these guys insisted on playing 5.... Ba5, when the common sense and easier to play 5.... Be7 was available. |
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Jul-30-08
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| whiskeyrebel: The Rock never got a chance to use the "peoples elbow". |
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| Aug-06-08 |
| JoergWalter: This game including the odds of Ra1 is an exact copy of Morphy vs. Amateur, NY 1857. It is no. 82 in Maroczy's book about Morphy but I cannot find it here. |
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| Aug-15-08 |
| AnalyzeThis: Very interesting JoergeWalter! |
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Aug-16-08
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| anonym: On p.3 of Art of the Checkmate by Georges Renaud and Victor Kahn (Dover, 1953), this same game exactly is presented as Morphy (without Queen's Rook) vs Amateur, New York, 1857, Evans Gambit Accepted. |
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| Aug-17-08 |
| JoergWalter: And the story gets more interesting. 8.Ba3 is usually recommended strongest and Morphy seemingly played it before - but he did not play it in his first game with Anderssen in 1858. Also it was not played in Umansky - Timmerman 2005 - a game between 2 champions in correspondence chess. By the way this game follows Anderssen-Riviere from 1859 for the first 14 moves (15 on white)! I am more than curious to know why Umansky wouldn't play 8. Ba3 and what Timmerman had prepared to meet it. Maybe this particular opening variant needs serious revision - and I don't want to rely on Mr. Harding's guessing in the chesscafe. |
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| Aug-17-08 |
| JoergWalter: So Mr. Umansky and Mr. Timmerman - where are you when we need you? |
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| Sep-18-08 |
| Miachonzinho: Steinitz make a massive atack after the moves 8 and 9.
I'm still trying to found a way to allow black to castling. |
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| Sep-18-08 |
| Miachonzinho: I think i've found a way.
7. ... Ne7 looks better, allowing black to castling. |
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| Sep-18-08 |
| sneaky pete: 7... Nge7 8.Ng5 0-0!! (of course not 8... d5? 9.exd5 .. and castling is far away) 9.Qh5 h6 10.Nxf7 Qe8!! (why give up the exchange with 10... Rxf7 when you can pin that obnoxious knight?) 11.Nxh6++ Kh8 12.Nf7++ Kg8 13.Qh8#. |
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| Sep-24-08 |
| mindmaster: why is it? am not able to see the rook on a1............is it frm the game or the applet error? |
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| Sep-24-08 |
| Manic: <mindmaster> It's an odds game. There is not supposed to be a rook on a1. |
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| Sep-24-08 |
| mindmaster: but wats an odd game.......am not a club player even and hvnt heard anything as such.... |
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| Sep-24-08 |
| Manic: An odds game is one where the a player handicaps him or herself, usually because they are a better player. In this case a player gives his opponent a free rook at the start of the game. It does not just have to be a piece. Sometimes you give your opponent free moves or "draw odds", where the drawing of a game counts as a loss for the player who gives the odds. |
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| Sep-25-08 |
| mindmaster: oh thank you Manic...... |
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| Nov-27-08 |
| tommy boy: just beauty |
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| Nov-27-08 |
| Jim Bartle: A few of the players at the Olympiad didn't seem that much stronger than Rock. |
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| Jan-05-09 |
| WhiteRook48: Steinitz took off a Rock (Rook) at the beginning, that's another way to interpret the pun... several possibilities |
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| Jan-24-09 |
| WhiteRook48: And the king fell onto the Rocks |
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| Mar-03-09 |
| WhiteRook48: crazy!! King!! Hunt!! |
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| Aug-25-09 |
| Amarande: Although, in this case, it doesn't really matter whether or not the Rook is on a1 or not, as the mating combination proceeds in the same way regardless. However, if you get to play this game as White (who knows, I've read this very same game has been won by Morphy and a bloke named Walker, and I don't remember whether they, too, gave odds) *with* an a1-Rook, you should not play 17 Bb4+, but rather (this only works with the Rook, BTW) 17 axb3, and watch your opponent squirm ... |
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| Aug-25-09 |
| WhiteRook48: powerful diagonals |
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