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Semion Alapin vs Siegbert Tarrasch
Vienna (1898), Vienna AUH, rd 37, Jul-23
Sicilian Defense: Alapin Variation. General (B22)  ·  0-1


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Jan-20-05  WhoKeres: Tarrasch's second move cannot be completely correct. Alapin's opening play is solid, but he played the middlegame too passively and allowed Tarrasch to open the g-file. 33. Rh1 seems to be a mistake, giving Tarrasch the time he needed to conclude the attack.
Jan-20-05  aw1988: 2...Qa5?
Jan-20-05  RisingChamp: Why are you so sure it CANNOT be correct.Simply because it isnt the mainline response?Any reason?
Jan-21-05  aw1988: The point is that developing with your queen so early in the game is generally considered not the strongest point. There are a few exceptions, like everything in chess, but in this case I cannot remember this as one of the exceptions...
Jan-21-05  aw1988: I simply cannot believe Tarrasch made such a move!
Jan-22-05  aw1988: Despite being perhaps "incorrect", this is going against all of Tarrasch's principles!
Sep-06-05  euripides: After 2..Qa5 the game ends up in something very like contemporary versions of the Paulsen/Kan. Very modern play by Tarrasch.
Oct-11-05  AlexanderMorphy: interesting game...
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  Honza Cervenka: 2...Qa5 is not so uncommon. See

The reason of this move is to obstruct creation of strong white's Pawn centre after d2-d4 with next c3xd4. After eventual 3.d4 cxd4 white c-Pawn is pinned.

Dec-14-12  pericles of athens: I remember Nigel Short playing 2...Qa5 at some tournament in the last year or so.
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  perfidious: In the mid 1980s I remember <cehertan> using 2....Qa5 in a New England championship and it gave me a start.

Of course, Charlie (aka 'Mr Donkey') also took up the cudgels for Black in Damiano's ancient variation 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nxe5 Nxe4. Some amusing kibitzes may be found here: C Hertan vs J Curdo, 1987.

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  whiteshark: Sveshnikov's comment on <2...Qa5>:

"It is amazing that it should be Tarrasch himself who made such a move! A queen sortie like this will not even equalize, let alone refute the system."

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  perfidious: It is scarcely surprising to see Romanishin, that devotee of theoretical byways in the opening, having a go at 2....Qa5 in the games list.
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  offramp: 2...Qa5 is a clever way of stopping 3.d4.
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  Jonathan Sarfati: Just found this game. Tarrasch is one of the favorite whipping boys of John L Watson as a dogmatist who couldn't have handled modern strategy. But way back in the 19th century, Tarrasch:

* moves his ♕ early in the game.

* starts a wing attack while the centre is not closed

* surrenders the ♗ pair while accepting doubled ♙s

* leaving his remaining ♗ as bad but protecting good ♙s.

I think that if this game were played by 1990s GMs, Watson would have used this as an example of the "rule independence" that would have confounded the old masters like Tarrasch.

At the Alexander Alekhine kibitzing page, <visayanbraindoctor> amusingly speculated that if this game were given to Watson before writing "Secrets of Modern Chess Strategy", and told it was a modern game, he would indeed have gleefully used it in his book. It would be priceless to imagine his shocked expression when told that it was actually a Tarrasch win.

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  Jonathan Sarfati: And Tarrasch accepted a blockaded backward ♙.
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  Honza Cervenka: 2...Qa5!? is one of Sergei Movsesian's pet lines in Alapin.

See Repertoire Explorer: Sergei Movsesian (black)

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