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Rafael Vaganian vs Michael Adams
Armenia - The Rest of the World (2004)  ·  Indian Game: Yusupov-Rubinstein System (A46)  ·  1-0
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Jun-16-04  Helloween: I must say, I haven't seen such horrible play by a GM in quite awhile. This looked like a typical crush of a 1500 guy on an internet server! If you ask me, Adams should have felt privelaged to play against an opening so easy to equalize against, compared with stronger lines. He should have been laughing all the way to the bank and outplaying the elder adversary, but for unknown reasons, he got confused and made some of the worst strategic mistakes I've ever seen. 13...Bxe5? is almost losing at once. "Every schoolboy" knows not to play that move in such a position, with the exception of a combination or whatnot. Instead, 13...Nf5 looks to hold the balance. After 17.Nc4,17... Ra6! looks stronger than the game continuation, because White cannot play to win a pawn with 18.Bxb6? on account of 18...Qxd1+ 19.Rxd1 Bd5! when Black has all the play. Vaganian mopped up easily, almost too easily. There is no struggle and he must have felt relaxed to get such an easy game. He did, however, miss a forceful win with 34.Nxf7! for example 34...Rxf7 35.Rxe6 Bd5 37.Rgxg6+ Kf8 38.Rd6 when Black is run over like a bug.
Jun-18-04  Cyphelium: <Calli> After 18.- f6 19. Nd6 fxe5 20. dxe5 Qc7 21.Qd4 Bd5!? 22.c4 Bb7, 23. Nxe4 might be good for white. A pawn is a pawn, although black gets the initiative after 23.- Qc6 24. Re3 Rad8 25. Qc3 Rf4 26. Rae1 or something similar. Maybe 21.- Rad8 or 21.- Rf4!? instead of 21.- Bd5?
Jun-18-04
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  Calli: <Cyphelium> Other moves seem to lose the B-pawn to 22.Rc3 On 21... Bd5 22.Rc3 Qh7 is okay with a possible b5 later if White takes at e4.

If he takes the pawn, Black gets some compensation. for instance in your line 18.- f6 19. Nd6 fxe5 20. dxe5 Qc7 21.Qd4 Bd5!? 22.c4 Bb7, 23. Nxe4 Qc6 24. Re3 Rad8 25. Qc3 Rf4 26. Rae1 a4! 27.b4 Rc8 looks okay for black.

Jun-18-04  Cyphelium: <Calli> Ok, I see your point now. 18.- f6 19. Nd6 fxe5 20. dxe5 Qc7 21. Qd4 Bd5 22. Rc3 Qa7, but what about 23. Nb5 now? 23.- Qd7 24. a4 seems to be good for white. (Other queen moves seems worse, for example 23.- Qb8 24. Nc7 or 23.- Qb7 24. Rc7 followed by c4 or 23.- Qf7 24. Rc7 Qf4 25. c4)
Jun-18-04
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  Calli: After something like
18...f6 19.Nd6 fxe5 20.dxe5 Qc7 21.Qd4 Bd5 22.Rc3 Qa7 23.Nb5 Qd7 24.a4 Rab8 25.Rc7 Qd8 26.c4 Ba8 27.Rd7

It looks like White is gaining a lot of ground, but it still seems unclear to me. Black can continue 27...Qg5 and it looks like he is the one with the attack.

Jun-19-04  jeffnool: this game serve as an anti-indian ie..nimzoindian and queensindian...
Jun-19-04  MoonlitKnight: Great game by Vaganian!
Jun-19-04  jeffnool: Vaganian knows how to beat Adams. Just look at their head to head match-ups and you will see...
Jun-21-04  Cyphelium: <Calli> Maybe 27. Qd6!? instead of 27. Rd7 is better. Anyway, it does look rather unclear, which means that 18.- f6 might well be an improvement.
Nov-30-04  siggemannen: This is one of my favorite games of 2004, because i find it very hard to play against Stonewall positions with f4 etc. Does anyone have any good advice how to play against this setup?
Dec-01-04  Dudley: Most people who want to play a stonewall will move 1.d4 2.e3, which should immediately clue you in. If you are a 1...d5 player, try to develop your QB to f5 or g4 before locking in in with ...e6. Also, the Stonewall is practically unplayable against the King's Indian with d6 and g6, but you should fianchetto K side even if you have already moved d5. This game was really a delayed Stonewall which made it harder to anticipate, but Adams could have moved 7...Nbd7 instead of castling to prevent White's 8.Ne5.
Dec-01-04  Dudley: Or maybe not, since White has backup with his QB on b2. Maybe 8...Nfd7 followed by ...f6? Probably too aggressive. The Black KB might have been better on e7 insead of d6. It's not an easy system to play against if you defense is based on ...d5 and...e6, but no doubt there is a way. Adams was taken by surprise in this game, I think.
Dec-01-04  siggemannen: <Dudley> thx for the help, usually after 2.e3 I do play e6, but you gave me good idea. The problem with early Bf5 is that white can play Qb3 and i don't like that move, but maybe black can defend
Dec-01-04  Dudley: Qb3 is only a threat if White combines it with c4, not c3 as usual in the Stonewall and that probably won't happen. With an early Bf5 if White moves Bd3 anyway and has not yet moved his c pawn, don't take Bxd3 because it strengthens White's center and prepares e4. Instead, either retreat to g6 or protect by moving your pawn to e6. That's why I prefer Bg4 (after Nf6) even if White hasn't moved his KN yet.
Dec-02-04  siggemannen: yes, it's been often on my mind that many players like to protect their bishops on f4/f5 with e3/e6. And i always take because it gets a double pawn at e-file, but more often than less i get into a pretty cramped position without counterplay. And i don't understand why
Dec-02-04
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  Shams: <siggemannen> I LOVE to back up my Bf5 with ...e6 and always feel happy when white doubles my pawns. The f-pawns are hardly weak, at least not weak enough for non-masters to exploit. black gets pressure on the e-file and an extra defender of his kingside light squares. The great thing is you can trade off your f-pawn...and you still have another one! It`s quite nice.
Dec-02-04  square dance: <shams> no matter what you say the doubled f pawns are weak once you get to the end game. in the middle game they are not so bad though.
Dec-02-04
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  Shams: <square dance> I didn`t say they were an endgame plus! you`re right, there are pros and cons. But for my money they are so bad enough that I`m going to worry about my endgame on the sixth or seventh move. I have good results with them and that`s all I can say. cheers
Dec-02-04  siggemannen: thx Shams, this should improve my game, i never understood the meaning behind those pawns
Dec-02-04  Dudley: Jeremy Silman loves doubled pawns in the middlegame in many cases,and his writings explain why. They give open lines for pieces, slow up pawn storms and take away advanced squares from enemy pieces. You can't be that dogmatic about whether the doubled pawns are good or bad-its a sign of inflexible thinking characteristic of people who think they know something.
Dec-02-04  Nezhmetdinov: I enjoy reading the posts of Pink Panther and Ughaibu both - but if you people are worrying about your steeet cred on chessgames.com you need to get out more.
Dec-02-04  Nezhmetdinov: And Vaganian is one of those beautifully imaginative (especially see Vag play the French as black - a teacher) players it is a pleasure to see him still playing well...
Dec-02-04
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  Gregor Samsa Mendel: <Shams>--doubled pawns can even be an advantage in the endgame. See my comments to Ali Gattea vs Istratescu, 2002.
Apr-24-07  Davolni: Nice game by Vaganian. Good to see him still playing:) I read in chessmetrics, for a long time he used to be World #3, which I think is pretty impressive.:)
Nov-12-07  Cibator: Golombek (in one of his many chess primers, I forget which) used to recommend the K-side fianchetto for Black against the Colle - because it crosses one of the principal aims of that opening, which is for White to try for the Greek Gift sac at h7. (Colle himself won some notable brilliancies that way as White, eg against O'Hanlon, 1930.) It's a good principle to follow against other opening systems with a similarly rigid strategy, eg the Stonewall itself - and the Nimzowitsch opening with b3 (see my comment on Nimzo vs Winter, 1927).
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