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|Sep-26-11|| ||ToTheDeath: What a game! This guy was on another level.|
|Apr-25-12|| ||LoveThatJoker: <ToTheDeath> Oll was truly on another level, man. Well said! What a tremendous game!|
|May-02-12|| ||LoveThatJoker: Great game by Oll, as I said about a week ago!
|May-02-12|| ||Oceanlake: Note Bb7 and denuded kingside.|
|May-02-12|| ||xthred: Cool!|
|May-02-12|| ||rilkefan: Not really impressed with black's defensive tactics here. 32...Kh7 jumps out as a waste of tempo in a critical position, for example. And checking with stockfish I see it thinks the move throws away a two-pawn advantage (compared to ...Rf7; other better natural moves I checked include Ra4, Ra2, Ra1+). 31...Kh8 was also strong for black, and a few other moves around there, but 32...Rf7 was critical.|
Well, actually, a lot of what I thought was dithering was just black being lost after 34...d2 and 35...Qc4 (instead 34...Ra1/35...b4 was equal and 35...Ra4 in the game line held white to about 0.7 instead of 2).
|May-02-12|| ||vinidivici: i really blank about this game. so sharp and deep. this is hard|
|May-02-12|| ||sevenseaman: What a gut-crusher by Oll! Like in a balanced tug-of-war, for a long time the hankie moves only inches right or left, until the realization dawns upon you the guy was going for P promotion. What nerve!|
My slumber suffered a jolt at <41. Rg3+>. I will go on wondering why he took that little stroll into his backyard garden! Was it a ploy to collect his breath, gather his wits? Or a reassuring visit to tell his K he was still there?
|May-02-12|| ||gofer: Don't quite understand how black let this happen.
<47 ... Qxf2> clears white's defenses and opens a multitude of possibilities for black.
Shoving the black queen into a box like h1 makes no sense unless you are expecting
white to protect Pg2, which white easily can. But after white gets greedy and plays
<49 Rf7+> black surely should have played <49 ... Ke8> and not allowed white the tempo
to get back to defend and instead forced <50 Nxd6+ Kd8> allowing the counter attack on g2!
|May-02-12|| ||TimothyLucasJaeger: gofer, after <49 ... Ke8 50 Nxd6+ Kd8 51 Be3> I don't see any satisfactory way for black to stop the threat of Bb6#. For example, after <51 Qxg2+ Kh4> black is out of checks (e4 is covered by the knight).|
|May-02-12|| ||erniecohen: <<Timothy Glenn Forney>: Shedder 8-30.♕xf6 ♖f7 31.♖xg7+ ♖xg7 32.♖xg7 ♕e6+ ♖f7 33.♕g6+ ♖g7 34.♕e6+ ♖f7 draw=>|
Much better for Black is 30... ♕c7 31. ♗xh6 ♔h8 32. ♗xg7+ ♖xg7 .
|May-02-12|| ||gofer: <TimothyLucasJaeger> Thanks! |
Even more reason to play <47 ... Qxf2> rather than <47 ... Qh1>.
|May-02-12|| ||kevin86: White is threatened with matem,but cooly continues the attack. Later,all white has for the queen are knight and bishop,oh,any FIVE PASSED pawns.|
|May-02-12|| ||ProLogik: The game from 39. Qxf7 onward was hilarious. How White runs circles around Black's king was sheer brilliance.|
|May-02-12|| ||TimothyLucasJaeger: <gofer> Agreed. As <rilkefan> pointed out, black's defense in this game is quite inacurrate (in an admittedly difficult position). Entombing the queen on h1 was illogical with the threat on g2 so easily countered/ignored.|
After your <47 ... Qxf2>, black's chances appear much better than in the game line. Instead of five connected passed pawns, white will be deprived of the f pawn and if able to win the d pawn, will only do so with difficulty.
After <48 Rf7+ Kc8>,
1. <49 Nxd6+ Kb8 50 Rb7+ Ka8> goes nowhere.
2. <49 Rxf6 Qg1+ 50 Kg3 Qe1+> looks bad for white. Black's queen will get a host of checks and will win the e4 or g2 pawn if white tries to avoid the perpetual check after <51 Kh2>.
3. <49 Be3 Qe1 50 Rxf6> looks like white's best try.
For example <50 ... Qh1+ 51 Kg3 Qe1+ Bf2> and the potential of Nxd6+ protects the e4 pawn from capture.
|May-02-12|| ||karnak64: Fascinating game. The name "Lembit Oll" sounds like it could belong to a dwarf-lord in the Mines of Moria. And if he could swing his ax as well as he played this game, there'd be nary an orc for leagues.|
|May-02-12|| ||Jambow: <rilkefan: Not really impressed with black's defensive tactics here.>|
Agreed blacks play was a bit weak but whites explotation of it was still very masterful. Another instructional game imho.
|May-02-12|| ||Riverbeast: A masterpiece...From (as the now-defunct magazine 'Chess Chow' once referred to him) the "Funky Estonian GM" Lembit Oll |
Oll unfortunately took his own life...Another troubled talented chessplayer....RIP
|May-02-12|| ||chuter09: This is an awesome game. Thoroughly enjoyed it. Very deep as well.|
|May-02-12|| ||screwdriver: Sacking the queen and winning always gets the roar of the crowd.|
|May-03-12|| ||ZeejDonnelly: My second accepted Gotd "pun"! woot|
|May-03-12|| ||LoveThatJoker: <ZeejDonnelly> Congratulations! |
|May-03-12|| ||karnak64: <Riverbeast>: didn't know that. Sad.|
|May-03-12|| ||King Death: <karnak64> A few days ago on another page here I saw a link to an article by the GM Baburin where he named a couple of other players that were suicides and they (just like Oll) jumped out windows. That's eerie.|
|May-03-12|| ||rilkefan: Stockfish thinks 47...Kc7 is best, at about +2. 47...Qxf2 is refuted by 48.Be3, with Bb6 a deadly threat. 47...Qh1+ was comparatively much better at half a pawn or so worse than ...Kc7. As noted above, stockfish doesn't hate black's defense after moves 34/35.|
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