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|May-17-07|| ||Helios727: After 48. -, Qc1+ 49. Ka2 Qa1+ 50. Kb3 a2 51. Qc7, how does black stop 52. Qxf7+ ?|
|May-17-07|| ||Helios727: Okay, I see the issue here. 48. -, Qc1+ 49. Ka2 Qc2, and now there is the double threat of Bd4+ (winning the queen) or Bc1+ followed by Qb2 mate.|
|May-17-07|| ||Hafen Slawkenbergius: Black playes 48...a2+. If white captures with the bishop, he is mated; and if with the king, 49...Bd4+.|
|May-17-07|| ||al wazir: <HS>: 48. a2+ 49. Bxa2. Where's the mate?|
|May-17-07|| ||einneu: 48..a2 immediately. If Kxa2 Bd4+, if Bxa2 then Qc1#.|
|May-17-07|| ||AlfieNoakes: If bxa2, qc1 then qxq surely?|
|May-17-07|| ||Kwesi: 48...a2 49.Bxa2 Qc1+ 50.Qxc1|
|May-17-07|| ||AlfieNoakes: is it qc1+ ka2, qc2, pinning the queen and threatening bc1?|
|May-17-07|| ||Richard Taylor: <AlfieNoakes> <Helios727> points that out above. I was also a bit mystified as to why White resigned - however Black has a strong passed pawn so probably must win eventually whatever. But Bc4 looks like blunder.|
|May-17-07|| ||spin: (this is my first post, so please excuse me if I screw up the analysis)|
48...a2 49. Bxa2 (otherwise the queen is lost) 49...Bd4 50. Qc2 (only move that defends against Qb2 and Qd1) 50...Qb4+ 51. Kc1 Qe1+ 52. Qd1 (and then I was thinking Bb2+, but the king doesn't have to take and can just go to c2... anyone see improvements after that?)
well... that was abortive
|May-17-07|| ||Judah: Hmm, I don't know about this pun. I thought it meant that Prada won.|
|May-17-07|| ||zb2cr: I think <helios727>'s 2nd post and <AlfieNoakes>'s 2nd post is the right road.|
48. ... Qc1+; 49. Ka2, Qc2. As <Helios727> notes, "...and now there is the double threat of Bd4+ (winning the queen) or Bc1+ followed by Qb2 mate."
50. Qb5 defends both threats, but 50. ... Bf6+; 51. Kxa3, Be7+ wins the White Queen.
|May-17-07|| ||twin phoenix: now that's a great pun chessgames.com!!! (by the way i love your site it is simply awesome!)|
|May-17-07|| ||WannaBe: What's a newbie <spin> doing posting?! Aren't newbies allowed to post until 1 month grace period?! =)|
Welcome to this site <spin>!
|May-17-07|| ||twin phoenix: this is a really nice game black doesn't hunt poisoined pawns on several occasions notably 13 --,Bxc3??,also 34--, Q-b1+!! (instead of takes f2)
some strategical points that i found very interesting were A. you know white hated playing 18. BxNd4 but what else could he do?
B. the infiltration of the black Queen via h2,h1 encirclement of the highest order that would make even ol' JEB Stuart proud...
C. 47.--,Q-d2! a very strong move to which i can see no recovery. (even 48. Q-c4 fails...)|
As to why white resigns... 48.--,a2 49. Bxa2,(forced or loses Q to 50. B-d4 disc+),Q-d1+ 50.Q-c1, Qxc1#
lastly, why didn't white try 45. Q-d3?
|May-17-07|| ||kevin86: I have an idea,but it may be too slow: 48...c1+ 49 a2 a1+ 50 b3 a2 and queens soon.|
|May-17-07|| ||psmith: <twin phoenix>
48....a2 49. Bxa2 Qd1+ 50.Kxb2 -- no mate.
But 48...a2 49. Bxa2 Bc3 wins. 50. Qa3 Qd3+ 51. Kc1 Bd2+ 52. Kb2 Bc1+ winning the Queen.
But as noted 48...Qc1+ 49. Ka2 Qc2 is even better. 50. Qb6 Bf6+ 51. Kxa3 Be7+ (Fritz).
|May-17-07|| ||psmith: Some notes by Fritz on earlier moments:
33... Qc3+ wins more quickly 34. Ke2 Qc2+ 35. Kf1 Qb1+ 36. Ke2 Bc3! White can't escape. (Try.)
48. Bc4 hastens the end but White is dead lost anyway. (Suggest an improvement.)
|May-17-07|| ||spin: thanks for the welcome, <WannaBe>.|
I've been lurking for a few months now, so I guess it's about time I posted.
Just wish I could have actually posted a decent line... I didn't notice until I was almost done posting that I had forgotten a possibility at the end - by then I figured I might as well post anyway. Oh well!!
|May-17-07|| ||outplayer: When has white made his decisive mistake?|
|May-17-07|| ||Helios727: <kevin86>: 48...Qc1+ 49 Ka2 Qa1+ 50 Kb3 a2 failes to 51. Qc7 with the threat of 52. Qxf7+, with a probable perpetual check in hand.|
|May-17-07|| ||Guguni: My computer showed me the following win: 48...Qc1+ 49 Ka2 Qc2 50 Qb5 Bc1+ 51 Ka1 Bg5(!) Bishop is immune against taking because of mate on b2 52 Qe5 Bf6 53 f4 B:e5 54 fe Qb2#|
|May-17-07|| ||melv: what is the point of 25. h3?|
|May-17-07|| ||Phony Benoni: <melv: what is the point of 25. h3?> If the further course of the game is any guide, White probably wanted to play Re1 without allowing ...Rxe1+ and ...Qxe5+ winning the h-pawn.|
|May-18-07|| ||fm avari viraf: I was about to post my analysis how Black wins but suddenly I saw <psmith's posting of Fritz> identical to mine.|
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