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| Jul-03-15 | | moi: I might have a ressource for black after 26...gxf5 27 Qxf5 : 27... Ne3!
I can't find a win after 28 Qf7+ Kh8
29 Qxh5+ Kg7 30 Qf7+ Kh8
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| Jul-03-15 | | whiteshark: Missed <25.e6!>. Wanted Ne4(-f6+), but nothing decisive there... |
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| Jul-03-15 | | cocker: Fritz finds this one difficult so I don't feel so bad. |
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| Jul-03-15 | | wooden nickel: Oops, 30... Nd4? was a booboo due to 31.Rxd4! cxd4 32.e6 with strong attack!
32... f5 allows a wonderful bishop sac!... 32... Rf8 would not have been much better:
33.Nd5 and Black is in trouble.
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| Jul-03-15 | | wooden nickel: Pardon me! The move should start with move 23... Nd4 and not 30! |
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| Jul-03-15 | | MindCtrol9: That what I so 25.e6 like some players.The first thing I took a look was the position, the pieces per site. and the black N.White had to get rid off the black N and follow with e6 destroying the pawn structure with a devastating attack(no security guards protecting the King) |
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| Jul-03-15 | | morfishine: Puzzle that wasn't too hard to start with, but seemed to get harder making me think I was on the wrong path, then became clearer only after I resorted to PGN viewer and saw the game. I had <24.Rxd4> which weakens <e6> & <f5>; after 24...cxd4 I was able to continue <25.e6> but my visualization momentum ground to a halt after 25...f5 I didn't see 26.Bxf5 at all, and whimsically "analyzed" 26.Nd5 for a few seconds before tossing in the towel and looking at the game Powerful attack
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| Jul-03-15 | | Longview: <gofer> I like your review. I thought of the Rf8 as best defense but white is coming in from everywhere. The pattern of bishops and rooks aligned is strong. The Black King is almost sitting alone. A lesson there too. |
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Jul-03-15
 | | Penguincw: Hmm, I didn't see how 24.Bxg6 works out, so I tried 24.e6 Nxe6 25.Bxg6 fxg6 26.Qd5. Of course, in both lines, I missed <24...Nxf3+>. :| |
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| Jul-03-15 | | CHESSTTCAMPS: In this middle-game attacking position, white has the advantage of a bishop pair aimed towards a weakened black castled position where there is no light-squared bishop to defend the pawn shield. Black's centralized knights would seem to provide compensation, but white's attack is already to roll. 24.Rxd4! is a move that occurred to me quickly - it removes black's most active piece and prepares e6, hitting the base of the pawn chain. 24... cxd4 (no choice) 25.e6! and now:
A. 25... dxc3? 26.Qxf7+ Kh8 27.Bxg6 mates next
B. 25... fxe6 26.Bxg6 Rf8 (otherwise, 27.Qf7+ forces mate) 27.Qxh5 Kg7 (27... Rf6 28.Qh7+ Kf8 29.Qh8#) 28.Qh6+ Kf6 29.Bg5# C. 25... Rf8 26.Nd5! Qe8 27.Nc7 fxe6 28.Nxe8 Rxf3 29.Nc7 wins at least a piece. C.1. 26... Qd8 27.exf7+ Rxf7 28.Nxe7+ Rxe7+ 29.Rxe7 Qxe7 30.Qxa8+ wins. C.2. 26... Bd6|d8 27.e7! wins
C.3. 26... Bh4 27.Rxd4
D. 26... f5 (f6 27.Bxg6) 27.Qg3 Kh7 (dxc3 28.Qxg6+ Kh8 29.Bxf5 forces mate) 28.Qf4! dxc3 29.Qh6+ Kg8 30.Qxg6+ Kh8 31.Bxf5 wins D.1 27... g5 28.Bxg5 Bxg5 29.Qxg5+ Kf8 30.Qf6+ Kg8 31.Qf7+ Kh8 32.Bxf5 forces mate. D.2 27... Kg7 28.Bxf5 wins
E. 26... Nd6 27.exf7+ Nxf7 28.Bxg6 Rf8 29.Qxh5 Ng5 30.Bxg5 and black can't stop 31.Qh7+ forcing mate Time for review... |
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| Jul-03-15 | | CHESSTTCAMPS: Did not consider 27.Bxf5 (the game continuation) in D, but Qg3 seems to do the job. |
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| Jul-03-15 | | agb2002: White has the bishop pair for a bishop and a knight. Black threatens 24... Nxf3+ and 24... Nxc2.
These threats and the possibility of weakening the black castle with e6 suggest 24.Rxd4 cxd4 25.e5: A) 25... dxc3 26.Qxf7+ (much better than 26.exf7+) 26... Kh7 27.Qxg6 and mate next. B) 25... f5 26.Bxf5
B.1) 26... dxc3 27.Bxg6 Rf8 (27... Kg7 28.Qf7+ Kh8 29.Qh7#) 28.Qxh5 and mate soon. B.2) 26... gxf5 27.Qxf5
B.2.a) 27... dxc3 28.Qf7+ Kh8 29.Qxh5+
B.2.a.i) 29... Kg7 30.Bh6+ Kh7(8) (30... Kf6 31.Qg5#; 30... Kg8 31.Qg6+ Kh8 32.Qg7#) 31.Bf8+ Kg8 32.Qf7+ Kh8 33.Qg7#. B.2.a.ii) 29... Kg8 30.Re4, with the threat 31.Rg4+ Kf8 32.Qf7#, seems to win. B.2.b) 27... Rf8 28.Qg6+ Kh8 29.Qxh5+ Kg8 (29... Kg7 30.Bh6+ is similar to B.2.a.i) 30.Re4 is similar to B.2.a.ii. B.2.c) 27... Bf8 28.Qf7+ Kh8 29.Qxh5+ Kg7(8) 30.Qf7+ Kh8 31.Re4 looks winning. B.3) 26... Rf8 27.Qg3
B.3.a) 27... dxc3 28.Qxg6+ Kh8 29.Qh7#.
B.3.b) 27... Rxf5 28.Qxg6+
B.3.b.i) 28... Kf8 29.Qxf5+ Ke8 (29... Kg7(8) 30.Qf7+ Kh8 31.Qxh5+ followed by Re4 as in previous lines) 30.Qf7+ Kd8 31.Nd5, with the threat 32.Qg8+ Bf8 33.Qxf8#, wins. B.3.b.ii) 28... Kh8 29.Qxf5 Qe8 (29... dxc3 30.Qxh5+ as in previous lines) 30.Nd5 with two extra pawns and many threats (Nc7, Nf4-g6+, Nxe7 followed by Qxh5, Bf4, etc.). C) 25... f6 26.Bxg6 followed by Qxh5 looks winning.
D) 25... fxe6 26.Bxg6 is similar to C.
E) 25... Rf8 26.Nd5
E.1) 26... fxe6 27.Nxe7+ Kg7 28.Nxc8 Rxf3 29.gxf3 Rxc8 30.Rxe6 + - [2B vs N]. E.2) 26... Bd8 27.e7 wins material with a much better position. E.3) 26... Qd8 27.exf7+
E.3.a) 27... Rxf7 28.Nxe7+ Kg7 (28... Rxe7 29.Rxe7 Qxe7 30.Qxa8+ wins; 28... Kf8 29.Nxg6+ followed by 30.Qxh5 wins) 29.Qe4 wins material. E.3.b) 27... Kg7 28.Nxe7 Rxf7 transposes to E.3.a. |
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| Jul-03-15 | | Shoukhath007: black lost in a blunder |
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| Jul-03-15 | | patzer2: Here's my look at the game and Friday puzzle (24. ?) with Deep Fritz 14 and the chessgames.com opening explorer (OE). <1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. Re1 b5 7. Bb3 d6 8. c3 O-O 9. d4 Bg4> The game enters a well trodden version of the Ruy Lopez. It's so often played, the chessgames.com opening explorer doesn't begin it's examination of the opening until 9. d4. <10. Be3 exd4 11. cxd4 Na5 12. Bc2 c5 13. dxc5 dxc5 14. Nc3 Nc4 15. e5 Ne8!?> Until now the game follows the most popular lines of this Ruy Lopez variation. However Black now deviates from theory with 15...Ne8!?, a move which appears only once in our OE database. Instead of 15...Ne8!?, I prefer the popular alternative 15...Qxd1 when Black has easy equality after 15... Qxd1 16. Raxd1 Nd7 17. Bc1 Ra7 = as in I Schneider vs C Gabriel, 2007. <16. Qe2> This logical move tests the soundness of 15...Ne8!? over the safer 15...Qxd1 =. An alternative is the Fritz suggestion 16. Be4! when play might go 16. Be4! Nxe3 (16... Nxb2 17. Qc2  ) 17. Rxe3 Qxd1+ 18.
Rxd1 Rd8 19. Nd5 Rd7 20. h3 Be6 21. Nxe7+ Rxe7 22. Ng5 g6 23. Nxe6 Rxe6 24. f4 Re7 25. b3 Nc7 26. Rd6  (+0.46 @ 22 depth). <16...Nc7?> This not-so-obvious mistake allows White a comfortable advantage. Instead, Black can equalize with 16... Nxe5 when play might continue 17. Rad1 Qc8 18. Nd5 Bd8 19. Bf4 Ng6 20. h3 Be6 21. Be3 Nf6 22. Nxf6+ Bxf6 23. Be4 Ra7 = (-0.23 @ 24 depth). <17. Rad1 Qc8 18. Bc1 Re8 19. Qe4 g6 20. Qf4 h5?> This might be the decisive mistake. Instead, White appears to hold after 20... Bxf3 21. Qxf3 Ne6 22. Qg3 Ra7 23. b3 Nb6 24. Bf5 Rd7 25. Bxe6 fxe6 26. h4 Rxd1 27. Rxd1 Rd8 28. Rxd8+ Qxd8 = (+0.11 @ 22 depth). <21. h3 Ne6 22. Qg3 Bxf3 23. Qxf3 Nd4 24. Rxd4!!> This wins and solves our Friday puzzle, but it's complicated. Fritz doesn't realize it's decisive until its search reaches 18 depth. <24...cxd4 25. e6!> To assure the win, this strong move is an essential follow-up. <25...f5>
If 25... fxe6, White wins with 26. Bxg6  with Fritz announcing mate-in-18. If 25... Rf8, White wins with 26. Nd5 (+ 3.43 @ 21 depth) or 26. Qg3 (+3.93 @ 21 depth) <26. Bxf5 1-0>
Black resigns in lieu of possibilities like 26...gxf5 27. Qxf5 Qc5 28. Qg6+ Kh8 29. b4! Qxb4 30. Qxh5+ Kg8 31. Qg6+ Kh8 32. Re4 Ne3 33. Re5 (mate-in-19, Deep Fritz 14 @ 26 depth). |
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| Jul-03-15 | | garrido: Rook x Knight, following of e6 treathing exf7+. |
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Jul-03-15
 | | Jimfromprovidence: One interesting alternative is 24.Rxd4 cxd4 25.e6 Rf8 26. Nd5 Bh4.
click for larger viewBlack threatens both 27...fxe6 and 27...Ne5! (seeing 28...Qxc2). White to play and win. |
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| Jul-03-15 | | Shoukhath007: castling with the 3rd rook ,watch the amazing puzzle mate in 3
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mcmtC... |
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Jul-03-15
 | | chrisowen: Mr i d4 dids won up have in blew away am,
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Jul-03-15
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| Jul-03-15 | | wooden nickel: <aragorn69: Lubosh Kavalek's analysis of this game, as always instructive about both the opening and the tactics, is to be found at>
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...
... from 2005, but it still works! |
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| Jul-03-15 | | mel gibson: I would never have seen the winning move.
24 RxN.
It sacs a Rook,
threatens a Knight on c3 &
sacs a bishop on f5 to win on the game.
I can't believe all those people who claim it was so obvious. I probably would have played 24 Q e4
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| Jul-03-15 | | morfishine: <Jimfromprovidence> In your line, I like <27.e7> followed by 27...Re8 28.Nf6+ Bxf6 29.Qxf6 (threatening 30.Bh6) Black can now give material back shutting down both the e-file and c1-h6 diagonal with <29...Ne3> but White ends up ahead in material and wins after 30.Bxg6 Qe6 31.Qxe6 fxe6 32.fxe3 Rxe7 33.exd4 Nice post, as usual
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| Jul-03-15 | | CHESSTTCAMPS: <mel gibson: <...I can't believe all those people who claim it was so obvious.>> One reason that it gets primary consideration is that the knight is attacking the queen. Unless white has a better move with the queen, it is necessary to sac the exchange to avoid losing time. |
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| Jul-03-15 | | CHESSTTCAMPS: Try playing the puzzle position against Crafty:
http://www.chessvideos.tv/endgame-t... Crafty shows quickly why 26.Bxf5 is superior to 26.Qg3. |
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| Jul-04-15 | | mel gibson: Jul-03-15 CHESSTTCAMPS: <mel gibson: <...I can't believe all those people who claim it was so obvious.>> One reason that it gets primary consideration is that the knight is attacking the queen. Unless white has a better move with the queen, it is necessary to sac the exchange to avoid losing time. True but I still say that it wasn't easy to see the best move. |
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sac: 24.Rxd4