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|Apr-13-05|| ||Marvol: Great game (always nice to see Dutch players highlighted) with great commentary that gives us an insight in the planning of a master.|
The position at white's move 14 makes for an excellent puzzle, too.
|Apr-13-05|| ||Marco65: I like the variation 10...gxh5?? 11.Qxh5 Re8 12.Qxf7+ Kh8 13.Qg8+! R(N)xg8 14.Nf7# |
|Apr-13-05|| ||mymt: thanks for the commentary Eric,its makes a good game better. |
|Apr-13-05|| ||patzer2: NM Schiller may wish to make a change to his note about 13...dxc3, which states "This loses by force. Again it was necessary to harrass the bishop at c4 by ... Na5." |
Appears to me, and Fritz 8, that 10... Bh8? is the move that "loses by force" to 11. Qf3! Black loses no matter what move he makes for his 13th. If 13...Na5, then 14. Nxh7! Kxh7 (14... Nxc4 15. Bh6 mates quickly) 15. Qh4+ Kg8 16. Bh6 (e.g. 16...Qd8 17. Qf6 ) is decisive.
|Apr-13-05|| ||patzer2: In addition to 10...Na5! 11. Nxg7 Kxg7 12. Nxf7 Rxf7 13. Bxf7
Kxf7 14. O-O =, Fritz 8 indicates Black can also equalize with the defensive move 10...b5!|
The analysis goes 10... b5 11. Nxf7 (11. Bxb5? gxh5! 12. Qxh5 h6 13. Nxf7 Rxf7 14. Bc4 Qf8 ) 11... Rxf7 12. Bxf7+ Kxf7 13. Qf3+ Kg8 14. Nxg7 Kxg7 = (-0.25 @ 14 depth).
|Apr-13-05|| ||kevin86: Could it be said that 1 ♘c3 would be "Geeting off to a good start?" I see it as a slightly unorthodox,but good move. While not a pawn move,it is strong and at the whim of the mover,can be transformed into a regular opening.|
The final position is instructive,black can only survive at the loss of the queen.--and even that for one more move.
|Apr-13-05|| ||Shams: I meet the scandinavian with 1.e4 d5 2.Nc3 d4 3.Nce2 and if 3...e5, as in this game, then the immediate 4.f4. For me, it works out better than the text. |
I would think Black should play 4...c5 instead of the 4...g6. If white gets in Bc4 before d3, he has solved his opening problems. with the black pawn already on c5 it's easier to harass the bishop on c4. Of course, now that I look the line up there aren't any games with 4...c5. The overwhelming choice is 4...Be6. I guess that makes more sense. Please, ignore me if you want to learn anything at all about this line.
Here's a game with 4...g6 and black wins:
Van Linde Paul (NED) vs A Stefanova, 1996
|Apr-13-05|| ||Shams: It looks like 1...c5 is the most testing response to this opening-- provided, that is, that black is a sicilian player. |
|Apr-13-05|| ||Ezzy: Guyt called him a lucky Geet!! |
|Apr-13-05|| ||reprizent: This attack iz za booomb :) |
|Apr-13-05|| ||Rocafella: I Love this game, excellent attack, made to look so easy |
|Apr-13-05|| ||WannaBe: 1. Nc3, Geet-y up horsie... 8-)) |
|Apr-13-05|| ||kugely: If you can add appropriate comments on each game of the day, it will make chessgames.com a much more valuable and enjoyable website.
Please consider doing that!!! |
|Apr-13-05|| ||Shams: <kugely> are you speaking to anyone in particular? |
|Apr-13-05|| ||soberknight: van Geet got Guyt's goat! (Say it three times fast.) |
|Apr-13-05|| ||kugely: I was referrig to Notes by Eric Schiller. The fact that they appear as you unfold the game is very helpful. |
|Apr-13-05|| ||al wazir: : Does accepting the sacrifice lose by force? If 10...gxh5 11. Qxh5 h6 12. Nxf7 (12. Bxf7+ is answered by 12...Kh8. Not 12...Rxf7 13. Qxf7+ Kh8 14. Qh5 Kg8 15. Nf7 Qf8 16. Nxh6+ Bxh6 17. Bxh6, which leaves black a pawn worse off than in the main line.) Rxf7 13 Qxf7+ Kh7. Now what? |
|Apr-13-05|| ||patzer2: <al wazir> Fritz 8 rates it even at the end of your analysis, which would indicate that after 10. Nh5!?, Black can equalize with 10...gxh5, 10...b5 or 10...Na5. Black wasn't busted until after 10...Bh8? 11. Qf3! |
|Apr-13-05|| ||patzer2: I'm adding 14. Nxf7! to my pinning collection because of how 15. Bh6! utilizes the other Bishop's pin on f7 as the key tactical element in supporting White's winning attack. Note that 14. Nxf7! Qxf7 also allows 15. Bh6!, with a mate to follow. |
|Jan-18-09|| ||WhiteRook48: 15. Bh6!! exploits a PIN on the Rook, which does not control g7.|
|Mar-02-09|| ||WhiteRook48: people playing their own opening!!|
|Oct-19-10|| ||chesschampion11: 13.Qh3!|
|Dec-03-10|| ||Winston Smith: lol Geet vs. Guyt|
|Dec-03-10|| ||mastermind7994: Nice short game in this strange, unorthodox opening as described above who was played in 1967.|
|Dec-28-10|| ||whiteshark: <10...Na5 11.Nxg7 Nxc4! 12.dxc4 Kxg7 is necessary>|
Position after <10.Nh5>:
click for larger view
The upgraded* silicon department objects against the above assessment:
1) <10...b5> 11.Bb3 dxc3 12.Nxg7 cxb2 13.Bxb2 Kxg7 14.0–0 f6 15.Nf3 Qd6 16.Rc1 Nb4 17.Ba3 Nec6 18.Bd5 Bd7 -1.06/22
2) <10...dxc3> 11.Nxg7 cxb2 12.Bxb2 Kxg7 13.0–0 f6 14.Nf3 Qd6 15.Bc3 Be6 16.Qb3 Bxc4 17.Qxc4 b6 18.a4 Rac8 19.a5 -0.97/22
3) 10...Na5 11.Nxg7 Kxg7 12.Bb5 dxc3 13.bxc3 Bd7 14.Qa4 Nec6 15.0–0 a6 16.Bxc6 Bxc6 17.Qa3 b6 18.c4 Qd6 -0.23/22
4) 10...h6 11.Nxf7 Rxf7 12.Nxg7 Kxg7 13.Bxf7 Kxf7 14.Bxh6 Ng8 15.Bc1 dxc3 16.bxc3 c4 17.dxc4 Qxd1+ 18.Kxd1 Nf6 -0.27/21
* F11, see <Patzer2>'s previous analysis
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