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| Jan-08-13 | | Kikoman: Okay both <Qxb5+> and <Rh6> are wins for Black. :D |
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| Jan-08-13 | | zb2cr: Okay, my thinking was as follows: If White's Queen were not threatening Qxf8+, then 40. ... Rh6 would threaten unstoppable mate. How can we deflect the White Queen? This gave 40. ... Qxb5; 41. Qxb5, Rh6. |
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| Jan-08-13 | | David2009: M Turner vs Hector, 1998 Black 40...? As <FSR, gofer and LTJ> have pointed out, 40...Rh6 and 40...Qb5+ both win. Black could also have played Rh6 at move 38 (try the Crafty link below starting 38.Qe8 as in the game):
http://www.chessvideos.tv/endgame-t.... The position seems lost by then: for example 38.Rd2 runs into 38...f4 39.Qxf4 Rf6 mating. |
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| Jan-08-13 | | TheBish: M Turner vs Hector, 1998 Black to play (40...?) "Easy", Black is up two pawns. I guess "easy" is a relative term. Not easy for the average club player, I'm guessing, but not too hard for regulars here. It took me awhile to see it (about 5 minutes maybe), because I wasn't expecting to see a queen sac on an easy problem. That shows that I've been away for awhile -- Tuesday is normally queen sac day! Here Black would like to play ...Rh6 and ...Rh1#, but of course 40...Rh6 is met by 41. Qxf8+. Actually, that wins too, but not as cleanly because of spite checks by White after 41...Kh7 42. Qxg7+ Kxg7 43. Re7+. So let's stop White from taking the knight... 40...Qxb5+! 41. Qxb5
It's either that or resignation; not 41. Re2 fxe2+ 42. Kxg2 Qxe8. 41...Rh6 followed by 42...Rh1#, as there is no spite check or way to even interpose the queen on g1! |
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| Jan-08-13 | | mistreaver: Tuesday. Black to play. 40...? Easy
Black has completely won position. I think that even a quiet move would be sufficient.
However, glancing at the position, i quite like the sudden:
40...Qxb5
with the sequence:
41 Qxb5 (what else) Rh6 and white cant' prevent mate on h1
Time to check
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Yep, that's it, 2/2 , but of course, only the ruthless survive till the end of the week. |
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| Jan-08-13 | | Chesschatology: I'm ashamed to admit I had to google GOOT to find out what it meant. A great concept <Once>!
I think my GOOT OAT is Karpov vs Taimanov, 1977
Karpov vs. Taimanov '77.
After 39 … Ra8!! (really the "!!"s belong to 38 … Ng3, but I'd like to share them out) Black's languorous circumnavigation of the board, and White's complete helplessness, combine geometry, comedy, tragedy, brilliance and beauty. GOOT Anatoly! |
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| Jan-08-13 | | viking78: I googled GOOT also, but what I found that it's a verb which I can write here what it means :)
On the second search i found it: Get Out Of There, for those who don't know (I also didn't knew, but as long we live we must learn). |
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| Jan-08-13 | | Widsith: Huh. 40 ... Qxb5+ doesn't seem like a quicker mate than 40 ... Rh6, if for example after Qxb5+ White plays 41 Re2 instead of taking the queen. Maybe I'm missing something? I suppose it doesn't really matter, Black's mating however you play it. |
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| Jan-08-13 | | karnak64: Well, if nothing else, the name "Jonny Hector" sounds like it belongs to some cinematic super-spy or comparable action-film hero. So with such a swashbuckling, inspiring name I'm not surprised he went for the shock sacrifice rather than the mundane and mechanical ... Rh6. Pretty cool (both the name and the move). Totally missed this one and flubbed yesterday's at first. Either the early-week puzzles are getting harder or I'm getting dumber (or someone has slipped me decaf). |
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Jan-08-13
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| Jan-08-13 | | vinidivici: Good puzzle for Tuesday!.
Its easier than yesterday. |
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| Jan-08-13 | | JG27Pyth: I believe the immediate Rh6 works too even if it takes a bit longer (and you still end up needing to sac the queen.) |
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| Jan-08-13 | | JG27Pyth: Actually, I believe 39...Rh6! was the move. |
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Jan-08-13
 | | FSR: <viking78: I googled GOOT also, but what I found that it's a verb which I can write here what it means :) On the second search i found it: Get Out Of There> <Once> originated this term. It means "Get Out of That" - i.e. when you play a move that contains a strong, difficult (maybe impossible) to meet threat, thus challenging your opponent to "Get Out of That!" |
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Jan-08-13
| | FSR: <Chesschatology: ... my GOOT OAT is Karpov vs Taimanov, 1977> Yes, that is a beauty, especially in its geometry. The rook moves from one corner (a1) to another (a8), with the unstoppable threat of moving to a third corner (h8) to checkmate White's king in the fourth corner (h1). |
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| Jan-08-13 | | eyalbd: A sacrifice then a quiet move sequence is always pretty. 40..♕xb5 then 41..♖h6 do the trick. And I found it! |
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Jan-08-13
 | | LoveThatJoker: <SuperPatzer77> Yeah, man. I'm looking forward to see how GM Carlsen plays in his first tournament after officially surpassing Kasparov's highest ELO mark. I know WC Anand will be in form. He has too much to prove: to himself! LTJ |
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| Jan-08-13 | | kevin86: A nice finish:the queen sac diverts the enemy queen and the rooks can force a steamroller mate. |
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| Jan-08-13 | | snakebyt: I thought about this for quite a while. King is pinned in. I knew h file was the black win and went straight away with 40 ...Rh6 41. QXN# Qg8. Of course after 40...Rh6 the rest is superfluous. |
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| Jan-08-13 | | BlackSheep: I didnt even check Qxb5 as material doesnt seem to be the order (although the deflection really spells out to white his impending doom)as Rh6 threatens an unstoppable checkmate , white can pinch your knight on f8 but Kh7 and now what , white can do nothing to prevent Rh1 . (suicide computer moves dont help , even the interesting Qxf5 setting up a skewer on d3 after QxQ) |
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| Jan-08-13 | | ajax333221: I must confess this puzzle was not that easy. |
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| Jan-08-13 | | Patriot: Black is up two pawns.
40...Rh6 41.Qxf8+ Qg8 and I don't see how white stops mate. 42.Qxg8+ Kxg8 43.Re8+ Kh7  41...Kh7 is probably simpler. |
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| Jan-08-13 | | Mendrys: There is nothing brash about this combination. Sure the queen sac is flashier but maybe this was the first line that was analyzed several moves beforehand. Once it is seen that there is absolutely no way out there is little reason to analyze other, less flashier, lines. |
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| Jan-08-13 | | Jambow: Lost and confused had a great combo if you ignore my Queen was en prise for several moves. Oh well maybe Wednesday will be kinder. ;o] |
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| Jan-09-13 | | viking78: Thanks FSR for explaining to me, cheers to Once. |
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