| Oct-09-07 |
| John Marcel: nice tittle for this one |
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| Oct-09-07 |
| CapablancaFan: 3...Bd6? 3...Nf6 or d6 far more superior than the move played. Hell even 3...a6 was better. What was this guy thinking? |
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| Oct-09-07 |
| oxxo: if 12 ...BxQ?? 13. Nf6+ and Bh6# |
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| Oct-09-07 |
| patzerboy: It's called an opening "innovation." I think it's called the "Sky is Falling" variation of the Spanish game. |
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Oct-09-07
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| Infohunter: <CapablancaFan: 3...Bd6? 3...Nf6 or d6 far more superior than the move played. Hell even 3...a6 was better. What was this guy thinking?> There is another game with 3...d6 in the <cg> database:
G Mehmet-Kaan vs B Abdulwahid, 2007
As you will see, Black loses this one as well, though not so quickly. In both cases this is well-deserved, as I see it: 3...Bd6 is bad on its face, needlessly blocking the d-Pawn as it does, not to mention striking at h2 without even knowing for certain that White will castle on that side. <patzerboy: It's called an opening "innovation." I think it's called the "Sky is Falling" variation of the Spanish game.> I've looked at every chess opening nomenclature source I know, and can only conclude that Black's third move is so bad that it doesn't even have a name. (Not that I fail to appreciate your tie-in the today's pun, patzerboy--I'm not THAT literal-minded.) |
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Oct-09-07
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| An Englishman: Good Evening: We could call it the Little Defense, since that what it offers. |
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Oct-09-07
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| al wazir: 8...Qe7 looks interesting. In the only game in the database with 3...Bd6, G Mehmet-Kaan vs B Abdulwahid, 2007, black played 4...Qe7. |
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| Oct-09-07 |
| jdoliner: My this is devastating isn't |
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| Oct-09-07 |
| sanyas: Love how the KB hangs for the whole duration of the combination. It adds to the sense of urgency. |
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| Oct-09-07 |
| wouldpusher: Black lacked the needed defense mostly because his QB and QR remained undeveloped. Thanks to 3. ...  d6? |
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| Oct-09-07 |
| psmith: Fritz 5.32 thinks Black can hold (and indeed get the better game) with 12...Qc7 13. Nf6+ Kd8. It's ugly, but I don't see how to break through. Any ideas? |
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Oct-09-07
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| whiteshark: Little's efforts avail to little. |
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Oct-09-07
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| kevin86: Black looked in trouble from the start-beginning with his third move. Why send a bishop to do a pawn's job? Torre was able to throw a bishop and later a queen out to take in exchange for a mate in two. Later he is able to execute same without black having the honor of taking a stray piece. |
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Oct-09-07
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| Chessmensch: Maybe this is the Patzer variation of the Ruy Lopez. Black's play is truly awful. The only saving grace is that he didn't fall for the trap that <Oxxo> pointed out. But, I wonder if that's because he didn't know what was up but figured something must be. |
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| Oct-09-07 |
| twin phoenix: wow Q-g3 is as great move. wish we could have had more Torre games! |
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| Oct-09-07 |
| psmith: Here's the position after Fritz 5.32's suggested defense of 12... c7 13.  f6+  d8 14. d5 d6. Any suggestions as to how White might break through?
click for larger view |
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Oct-09-07
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| whiteshark: <psmith: <Fritz 5.32's suggested>> Time to update your engine straight away!!!
http://www.superchessengine.com/ Try Toga or Glaurung |
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| Oct-09-07 |
| pawnofdoom: Typical game of the day. A short game where black plays an irregulary opening, doesn't castle, is too greedy with material grabbing, and gets checkmated |
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| WannaBe: Funny thing... looking at the main link from the home page, <Torre vs. Little> first thing came to my mind was Joe Torre vs. Grady Little. =) |
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| Oct-09-07 |
| darth pawn: <pawnofdoom: Typical game of the day. A short game where black plays an irregulary opening, doesn't castle, is too greedy with material grabbing, and gets checkmated> Well, what did you expect? A boring rook endgame that ends in a draw after 50 moves? YAWWN! D.P. |
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| Oct-09-07 |
| zb2cr: Black plays 11. ... bxe5 to defend against the threat of 12. Nf6+, Kf8; 13. Bh6#. White then offers the Queen to sucker the Bishop away--as pointed out by <oxxo>.
Black doesn't fall for it.
<psmith>, 12. ... Qc7 may be a viable defense. After 13. Nd5, Qd6; 14. Bxe7+, Qxe7; 15. f4, Qe6; 16. Bc4, Bg7; 17. f5 looks strong. a. 17. ... gxf5?; 18. Qxg7, Re8; 19. Rfe1 and Black has to give up his Queen, since 19. ... Qxe1+; 20. Rxe1, Rxe1+; 21. Kf2, Re6; 22. Qh8+, Re8; 23. Qf6+, Re7; 24. Qxe7#. b. 17. ... Qc6; 18. fxg6. Now three variations:
b1. 18. ... Qxg6; 19. Qc7+, Ke8; 20. Rae1+ and again Black must give up his Queen. b2. 18. ... fxg6; 19. Qg5+, Bf6 ( ... Ke8; 20. Rae1+ ); 20. Rxf6, and Black's Queen is again a goner. b3. 18. ... hxg6; 19. Rxf7, Bh6; 20. Re1 with a threat of 21. Qe5. c. 17. ... Qe5. This seems to hold. I can't find anything better than 18. Qa3. |
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| Oct-09-07 |
| psmith: <psmith> <zb2cr>
I think I have refuted my own line (with assistance from Fritz)
12...c7 13. f4! g7 14.  ae1!  :
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(a) 14...O-O 15. xe7 axb5 16. d6 c6 17. f5
(b) 14...axb5 15. xe7 xe7 16. g5+ f6 17. xf6+ leading to mate. |
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