Igor Lysyj vs Emil Sutovsky (2008)

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Igor Lysyj vs Emil Sutovsky
Russian Team Championship (2008), Dagomys RUS, rd 8, Apr-10
Gruenfeld Defense: Exchange Variation (D85) · 1-0

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Jul-28-21		Refused: 41.Kf5 +- The point is that the Bishop on c4 is taboo because of 42.Kg6 otherwise Bb5 and the a-pawn is simply too much.

Jul-28-21		Walter Glattke: A) 41.Kf5 Rxc4 42.Kg6 Bg7 43.Ra8+ Bf8 44.Rxf8# B) 41.Kf5 Kg7 42.d6 Rxc4 43.dxe7 Rf4+ 44.Ke6 Re5+ 45.Kd6 Kf7 (41.Kh7?) 46.d8Q++ Kxd8 47.Ra8+ Kf7 48.a7 Rd5+ 49.Kc6 Ke7 50.Re8+ Kxe8 51.a8Q+ Looks draw C) 41.Kf5 Kg7 42.Bb5 (Brenin) Rf5+ 43.Kd7 c4 44.Rc7 c3 45.a7 ++- D) 43.-Rd4 44.Bc6 (Brenin) c4 45.Ba8 c3 46.Rc7 Rd2 47.a7 c2 48.Bb7 Bb2 49.Rxc2 Rxc2 50.a8Q ++-

Jul-28-21		Walter Glattke: E) the match: 50.-c2 51.a8Q b1Q pending

Jul-28-21		Breunor: Is the score wrong? 50 Ke4? Gives black advantage. Kc2 wins easily, stopping the black c pawn while the white a pawn can't be stopped. Computer says best is queening on move 50, but Ke4 probably draws and maybe loses and black resigned?

Jul-28-21		offramp: Lysyj syzygy.

Jul-28-21		mel gibson: The first 2 plies are obvious. Stockfish 14 says: 41. Kf5 (41. Kf5 (♔e4-f5 ♔h8-g7 ♗c4-b5 ♖a4-d4 ♔f5-e6 ♖d4-e4+ ♔e6-d7 ♖e4-e3 ♖a7-b7 ♔g7-g6 a6-a7 ♖e3-a3 ♗b5-d3+ ♔g6-h5 ♗d3-c4 g5-g4 ♔d7-c6 ♔h5-h4 ♔c6-b6 ♖a3xa7 ♖b7xa7 h6-h5 ♔b6-c6 ♔h4-h3 ♖a7-a2 ♗f6-e5 ♗c4-f1+ ♔h3-h4 ♖a2-e2 ♗e5-d6 ♔c6-d7 ♔h4-g5 ♖e2xe7 ♗d6xh2 ♔d7-c6 ♔g5-f6 ♖e7-h7 ♔f6-g6 ♗f1-d3+ ♔g6-g5 ♗d3-c4 ♔g5-g6 ♖h7-h8 ♗h2-e5 ♖h8-e8 ♗e5-f4 ♖e8-g8+ ♔g6-f6 ♖g8-f8+ ♔f6-g5 ♖f8xf4 ♔g5xf4 d5-d6) +5.04/36 147) score for White +5.04 depth 36

Jul-28-21		GerMalaz: <Breunor> Possibly arbiter putting the winner's king in e4. Happens to be a legal move so maybe registered.

Jul-28-21		Brenin: <Breunor>: 50 Ke4 must be a typo: even a beginner would play Kc2 or a8=Q in that position.

Jul-28-21		drollere: does anyone else find that 41. Kd3 freezes all black's pieces on the puzzle board?

Jul-28-21		MissScarlett: It’s a software glitch - a threefold repetition of position disables the move input facility.

Jul-28-21		Teyss: Can't believe I flubbed this. Went for 41.Kf5 all right but after 41...Kg7 thought <42.d6?> was smart. Then 42...Rxc4 43.d7? (dxe7 still holds) 43...Rd4 44.Rc7 Kf7 45.a7?? and wins... NOT. Overlooked 45...Rf4# and e6#. Missing one mate is bad enough, but two is pathetic. (For info White still loses after 45.d8=Q to deflect the Rook, Rxd8.) Lesson: in a "winning" line always beware the opponent's counterattack.

Jul-28-21		saturn2: Got 41.Kf5 the bishop is tabu and a black king move is forced. Then white lets Bb5 Bc6 follow and the a pawn runs through.

Jul-28-21		chrisowen: Rapport ivories Kf5 ebullient abracadabra ivories mob it so rapport i timids ivories mighty carp it on warp winkle its bled its dole its ouzo vendum jovially its emanate ivories its zog its prinz its how its lufted its backrank ivories wintry totadd divebomb iotas its cinch able its oblong ivories keyims its wc hello its footed its payback Kf5 vibrant!

Jul-28-21		alussinan: <Brenin> : agreed ! As a casual player, I would have played 50. Kc2 ...

Jul-28-21		chrisowen: And info t f5 is x no?

Jul-28-21		TheaN: I'm with <Teyss>, even though I would have probably reconsidered 42.d6? before playing the line definitely. I actually pictured the Black king further out than he is, after 41.Kf5 Kg7 42.d6? Rxc4 43.Rxe7+? Bxe7 44.dxe7 Kf7 -+. Were Black to play 41....Kh7? this does work, as now there's no 44....Kf7: click for larger view 42.d6! Rxe4 (else d7 +-) 43.Rxe7+! Bxe7 (else Kxf6) 44.dxe7 Rf4+ 45.Ke5! Rf1 46.a7! click for larger view Beautiful position. Alas, Black has Kg7 and it's all futile.

Jul-28-21		Cheapo by the Dozen: The first move (the unpin) is obvious, and so is the point that Black is likely to allow his f-pawn to be pinned in response. But I did not calculate any clear win from there.

Jul-28-21		chrisowen: No bullrushy with deaf fade go awooga elbow team victor :)

Jul-28-21		Teyss: <TheaN> Thank you, I feel less lonely. And thanks in general for your very pertinent posts. I looked at the same line as you did on <41...Kh7> (agreed, beautiful) then for <41... Kg7> kept 42.d6 and wondered how to tweak it a bit to make it work. Now 43.Rxe7 is useless because the BK is closer (43...Bxe7 44.dxe7 Kf7) so I thought I was smart with 43.d7? not realising the closer K is also a threat. Lesson 1: on a different line, rethink all the moves from the start, don't work it out backwards. Lesson 2: first evaluate the best line for the opponent (41...Kg7) before looking at suboptimal moves (41...Kh7).

Jul-28-21		agb2002: White is one pawn down. Black threatens Rxf5+. The first idea that comes to mind is 41.Kf5: A) 41... Rxc4 42.Kg6 and mate in two. B) 41... Kg7 42.Bb5 B.1) 42... Rb4 43.Rb7 (43.Rxe7+ Bxe7 44.a7 Rf4+ 45.Ke6 Rf8) B.1.a) 43... Kf7 (threatens Rf4#) 44.Be8+ Kxe8 45.Rxb4 cxb4 46.a7 b3 47.a8=Q+ Kf7 48.Qb7 b2 49.d6 wins. B.1.b) 43... Rb2 44.a7 Ra2 45.d6 looks winning. For example, 45... Ra3 (45... Kf7 46.Bc4+ and 47.Bxa2) 46.dxe7 Bxe7 47.Rxe7+, etc. B.1.c) 43... Rf4+ 44.Ke6 only seems to improve the position of the white king. B.2) 42... Rf4+ 43.Ke6 as in B.1.c. For example, 43... Re4+ 44.Kd7 Re1 45.a7 Ra1 46.d6 exd6 47.Ke6+ Kg6 48.Be8#! B.3) 42... Ra5 43.Rb7, followed by d6, looks similar to previous lines.

Jul-28-21		chrisowen: Lecture at hand if king model star no?

Jul-28-21		chrisowen: No I think fat chance no?

Jul-28-21		raymondhow: Sad to say, I completely missed the attacking power of the white king. Goes to show, in any position one should always ask if there is checkmating potential.

Jul-28-21		Jimfromprovidence: I went the other way to break the pin with 41 Kd3, seeing 41...Ra3+ 42 Kd2. click for larger view Now if 42...Ra4, then 43 Bb5, below, allowing Rb7 next move or after a couple of checks. click for larger view

Jul-28-21		chrisowen: No hmm like to nip off f5 that's oil no?

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