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Maxim Rodshtein vs Tigran Levonovich Petrosian
Olympiad (2008), Dresden GER, rd 9, Nov-22
Slav Defense: Quiet Variation (D11)  ·  1-0
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May-15-18  saturn2: After 28 Qc7
28..Ke8 gets mated
28..Qe7 looses the queen.
May-15-18  leRevenant: I potted the POTD okay but fell into the trap of confusing the two Tigran Petrosians.
May-15-18  AlicesKnight: 28.Qc7+ more or less forces ....Qe7 (if.... Ke8 the White QR comes on the scene with check and mate to follow), when 29.Rg7+ drags the K away from protecting the Q. Let's see - Rodshtein agrees....
May-15-18  saturn2: <Can a strong player please recommend several master games for me to study to learn how to play against this formation <STONEWALL ATTACK>?>

First I am not very strong. But I like the manouver b6 Ba6 (with the knight still on b8). In this way you can exchange white bishops.

May-15-18
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  malt: 28.Qc7+ Qe7
(28...Ke8 29.Re1+ )
29.Rg7+ K:g7 30.Q:e7+ wins
May-15-18  Cibator: <God how I hate facing these <STONEWALL ATTACKS> as Black.

<<<<Can a strong player please recommend several master games for me to study to learn how to play against this formation <STONEWALL ATTACK>?>>>

Thanks>

Best way is not to get into them in the first place. If you want to play the QP mutual, you do have the option of playing 1. ... Nf6, and delaying ... d5 until white has committed himself to a standard QGD-type set-up.

If he signals early that he's going for a Stonewall formation, don't play ... d5 at all. Keep the QP in reserve and play it to d6 at the right moment, challenging his attempted control of e5.

May-15-18
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  takchess: Im with jith1207
May-15-18  stacase: Patzer sees check - Patzer gives check and in this case it wins the game.
May-15-18
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  Once: The trick when facing stonewall attacks is to work out which of the opponent's pieces are happy and which are not.

With three pawns on one colour squares, there's usually a bad bishop trying to get into the game. We must avoid swapping off our opponent's bad bishop.

A d4-e3-f4 pawn formation has a huge hole on e4 that a black knight can settle into.

White usually wants to punt a knight into e5. It can be worth leaving room for f6 to kick this knight away.

The d4-e3-f4 formation makes it hard for white to get in the e4 pawn break. That can mean that black can undermine the centre with moves like c5.

White will often want to play a rook lift by 0-0-Rf3-Rg3 (or Rh3). Black can counteract this by not quickly castling kingside or not castling at all. The centre can be quite safe for a while because of the blocked pawns.

Watch out for the greek gift sacrifice - that's often a good motivation not to castle on the kingside too quickly.

Most of all, don't just sit there and let the stonewaller build up his standard attack. Because it is a standard attack it's usually quite easy to predict - as long as you don't give the opponent what he wants.

May-15-18
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  gawain: A nice tactic.
May-15-18
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  Bubo bubo: After 28.Qc7+, Black loses his queen: 28...Qe7 29.Rg7+ or 28...Ke8 29.Bb5+.
May-15-18  drollere: Qc7+ and black loses Q and QB for the R ... or mates in 1.
May-15-18  Pasker: It is considered as a decent tactic because if black block the check 28 Qc7+ by 28...Qe7 then 29. Rg7+ 29...Kxg7 30. QxQ wins the queen. Otherwise a natural check and mate in 2.
May-15-18  DIO: Hey, notyetagm, I am far from a strong player, but look under chesscamp.net/stonewalling. This is IM Larry Evans chesscamp site (not THE Larry Evans, but the IM) and he has a collection of his old articles. In one of them tackles Stonewall attack and how to deal with it. Good Hunting!
May-15-18  BOSTER: < notyetagm >:<Stonewall Attack>. See <Nikki Stonewall Atack>.Among them the game Radjabov vs Avetisian.
May-15-18
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May-15-18
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  cormier:


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Analysis by Houdini 4
26.Nxf6+ Qxf6 27.Rxg5+ Kf7 28.Qc7+ Qe7 29.Rg7+ Kxg7 30.Qxe7+ Rf7 31.f6+ Kg8 32.Qe6 Rd8 33.Bg6 Rdf8 34.Bxf7+ Rxf7 35.Qe8+ Kh7 36.Qxf7+ Kh6 37.g4 Kg5 38.Kg3 Ba8 39.Qg7# +- (#14) Depth: 26

May-15-18
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  cormier:


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Analysis by Houdini 4
25.hxg5 fxg5 26.Qd6 Qh8 27.Qe6+ Rf7 28.Nd6 Raf8 29.Nxf7 Rxf7 30.Re1 Qf6 31.Rh3 Qxe6 32.fxe6 Re7 33.Rxh6 Bc6 34.Rg6+ Rg7 35.Rxg7+ Kxg7 36.Rf1 a5 37.Kg3 d4 38.e7 Bd7 39.Rf8 b5 40.e8Q Bxe8 41.Rxe8 a4 42.Rd8 Kf6 43.Rxd4 axb3 44.axb3 Ke5 45.Rg4 Kf6 46.Bxb5 Kg6 47.Rc4 Kf7 48.Kg4 Ke7 49.Kxg5 Ke6 50.g4 Ke5 51.Kg6 Ke6 52.Bc6 Ke5 53.g5 Ke6 +- (15.74) Depth: 27

May-15-18
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  cormier:


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Analysis by Houdini 4 Pro w32: d 22 dpa

1. + - (9.57): 24...dxe4 25.f6 Qc5 26.Rc1 Qa5 27.Bc4 Bc8 28.Qxe4 Qf5 29.Qxa8 Be6 30.Qxa7 Bxc4 31.Rxc4 Qxf6 32.Rb4 Qg7 33.Qxb6 Rc8 34.Qd4 Qxd4 35.Rxd4 f6 36.a4 Kf7 37.hxg5 fxg5 38.a5 Rc6 39.b4 Ra6 40.Rf3+ Ke6 41.Re3+ Kf5 42.g4+ Kf6 43.Kg3 Kf7 44.Rd7+ Kf6

2. + - (12.16): 24...f6 25.hxg5 ...

May-15-18
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  cormier: Analysis by Houdini 4

23...dxe4 24.Bc4 Rfd8 25.hxg5 Qd6 26.gxh6+ Kh8 27.Rg8+ Kh7 28.Rg7+ Kh8 29.Qxd6 Rxd6 30.Rxf7 Bc6 31.d5 Be8 32.Rf8+ Kh7 33.Re1 b5 34.Bxb5 Rdd8 35.Bc6 Bxc6 36.Rf7+ Kxh6 37.dxc6 Rac8 38.c7 Rd4 39.Kf2 Kg5 40.Ke3 Rd3+ 41.Kxe4 Rc3 42.Rg7+ Kf6 43.Rg6+ Kf7 44.Rh1 R3xc7 45.Kf4 a5 46.g4 a4 47.bxa4 Rc6 48.Rh7+ Kf8 49.Rgg7 Rh6 50.Rf7+ Kg8 51.Rhg7+ Kh8 52.a5 Rg8 53.Rxg8+ Kxg8 54.Ra7 Rh2 55.a3 Ra2 56.f6 Rxa3 57.g5 Kf8 58.g6 Ra4+ 59.Ke5 + - (5.72) Depth: 22

May-15-18
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  cormier: Analysis by Houdini 4

22...Qc3 23.hxg5 Qxa1+ 24.Kh2 Nh5 25.Qg4 Rae8 26.Qxh5 Re1 27.gxh6+ Kh8 28.Bf1 Qxd4 29.Qg5 Ree8 30.Nf3 Qb2 31.Qg7+ Qxg7 32.hxg7+ Kg8 33.gxf8Q+ Kxf8 34.f6 Re4 35.Ng5 Rh4+ 36.Rh3 Rxh3+ 37.Kxh3 Bc6 38.Kg4 d4 39.Kf4 Ke8 40.Ke5 +- (5.24) Depth: 18

22...g4 23.Nf3
+- (4.52 --) Depth: 20

22...Ba6 23.Bxa6 Rfe8 24.a3 Qf8 25.Qf2 Nh5 26.Rc3 Nf6 27.hxg5 hxg5 28.Bb5 Rec8 29.Bc6 Qg7 30.Qg3 Rab8 31.Re1 g4 32.Qe5 Rd8 33.b4 Rbc8 34.Ree3 a5 35.b5 Qh6 36.a4 Qg5 37.g3 Qh6 + - (4.53) Depth: 22

May-15-18
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  cormier: Analysis by Houdini 4: d 24 dpa

1. + / - (0.83): 21...g4 22.Qf4 Kh7 23.Re3 Qb4 24.Nf1 Qc3 25.Rae1 Rae8 26.Kh2 Rxe3 27.Rxe3 Re8 28.Rxe8 Nxe8 29.Be2 Qc7 30.Qxc7 Nxc7 31.h5 Ba6 32.Bxa6 Nxa6 33.Ne3 Nb4 34.a3 Nc6 35.Nc2 Ne7 36.Kg3 Nxf5+ 37.Kxg4 Ne7 38.Kf4 f6 39.a4 Kg7 40.Ne3 Kf7 41.Nf5 Nxf5 42.Kxf5 a6 43.b4 b5 44.axb5 axb5 45.g4 Ke7

2. + - (1.82): 21...Ne4 22.Bxe4 dxe4 23.Qh5 f6 24.Qxh6 Rf7 25.hxg5 Qd6 26.g6 Qxg3 27.Nf1 Qg5 28.gxf7+ Kxf7 29.Qxg5 fxg5 30.Rc1 Kf6 31.Rc7 Ba6 32.Ne3 Bb5 33.d5 Bd3 34.Kf2 Bb1 35.a3 Ba2 36.b4 Bb3 37.Rb7 Ba4 38.d6 Ke5 39.Re7+ Kxd6 40.Re6+ Kd7 41.Rxe4 Bc6 42.Re6 Re8 43.Rg6 b5 44.Rxg5

May-16-18
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  cormier: Analysis by Houdini 4: d 30 dpa

1. + / = (0.55): 20...Ne4 21.f6 Qxf6 22.Qxf6 Nxf6 23.Rxg5+ Kh8 24.Rf5 Ne4 25.Nf1 Rac8 26.Ne3 Rc3 27.Rd1 Ba6 28.Bxa6 Rxe3 29.Re5 Rg8 30.Re7 Rc3 31.Bd3 Rg4 32.Bxe4 dxe4 33.g3 f5 34.Rxa7 e3 35.d5 Rc2 36.d6 Rd2 37.Re1 f4 38.Ra4 Rxd6 39.Rxf4 Rxf4 40.gxf4 Rd2 41.Rxe3 Rxa2 42.Rg3 b5 43.Rg5 b4 44.Rb5 Kg7 45.Rxb4 Kf6 46.Rb5 Rb2 47.b4

2. + / = (0.66): 20...Kh8 21.Qf2 g4 22.Re1 Qd6 23.Rge3 Rae8 24.Rxe8 Rxe8 25.Rxe8+ Nxe8 26.Qe3 Nf6 27.Qh6 Ne4 28.f6 Nxf6 29.Bxh7 Qe7 30.Bf5+ Kg8 31.Qg5+ Kf8 32.Nf1 Ba6 33.Qh6+ Kg8 34.Qe3 Qxe3+ 35.Nxe3 g3 36.hxg3 Kg7 37.Ng4 Nxg4 38.Bxg4 Kf6 39.Bf3 Ke6 40.Kf2 Bd3 41.g4 a5 42.g5 Bb1 43.a3 Bg6 44.Ke3 Bc2

3. + / - (0.91): 20...h6 21.h4 g4 22.Qf4 Kh7 23.Nf1 Rac8 24.Qxg4 Nxg4 25.f6+ Qe4 26.Bxe4+ dxe4 27.Rxg4 Rc3 28.Rd1 Rd3 29.Rxd3 exd3 30.Rg7+ Kh8 31.Rg3 Ba6 32.Nd2 Re8 33.d5 Rd8 34.a3 Rd6 35.Re3 Rxf6 36.Re7 Kg7 37.Rxa7 Bc8 38.Ra4 Rd6 39.Rd4 Bb7 40.Rxd3 Rxd5 41.Rxd5 Bxd5 42.Kf2 Kf6 43.b4 Ke6 44.g3 Bb7 45.a4 Kd5 46.Ke3 Ba6 47.Kf4 Kd4 48.b5 Bc8 49.Nf3+

May-16-18
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  cormier: Analysis by Houdini 4: d 26 dpa

1. + / = (0.33): 19...Ne4 20.Qe3 Qg5 21.Nxe4 Qxe3+ 22.Rxe3 dxe4 23.Bxe4 Rae8 24.Rae1 Bxe4 25.Rxe4 Rxe4 26.Rxe4 gxf5 27.Re7 Rd8 28.Rxa7 Rxd4 29.Rb7 Rd1+ 30.Kf2 Rd2+ 31.Kf3 Rxa2 32.Rxb6 Kg7 33.b4 Ra3+ 34.Kf4 Ra2 35.g3 Rxh2 36.Kxf5 Rf2+ 37.Ke4 Re2+ 38.Kf3 Rb2 39.g4 f6 40.Kf4 h6 41.Kf5 Rf2+ 42.Ke4 Kg6 43.b5 Rg2 44.Kf4 Rb2

2. + / = (0.43): 19...a5 20.Qf4 Ba6 21.Bxa6 Rxa6 22.Nf3 Qe4 23.Qd2 Ra7 24.Rf1 Rc7 25.fxg6 fxg6 26.Ng5 Qg4 27.Rhf3 Rc6 28.h3 Qd7 29.Qd3 Qc8 30.Rf4 Qc7 31.Qe3 Qd6 32.Qe5 h6 33.Qxd6 Rxd6 34.Nf3 g5 35.Rf5 Re6 36.Ne5 Kg7 37.R5f3 Rc8 38.R3f2 b5 39.Kh2 Ne4

3. + / = (0.48): 19...g5 20.Rg3 Kh8 21.Qf2 g4 22.Re1 Qd6 23.Rge3 Rae8 24.Re5 Qb4 25.Rxe8 Rxe8 26.Rxe8+ Nxe8 27.Nf1 Qc3 28.Qe3 Bc6 29.Be2 Qxe3+ 30.Nxe3 h5 31.h3 gxh3 32.Bxh5 Kg7 33.gxh3 Nd6 34.Be2 Kf6 35.Bd3 Kg5 36.Kf2 Kf4 37.h4 f6 38.a4 Bb7 39.h5 Kg5 40.Be2

May-16-18
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  cormier: Analysis by Houdini 4: d 20 dpa done

<1. = (0.00): 18...Ne4> 19.Nxe4 Bxd4 20.exd4 dxe4 21.Qe3 Qf6 22.Bc4 gxf5 23.Rh6 f4 24.Rxf6 fxe3 25.Raf1 e2 26.Bxe2 Rad8 27.Kf2 Rxd4 28.Ke3 Rd7 29.Bb5 Rc7 30.Bc4 Kg7 31.g4 h6 32.h4 Rd7 33.Bb5 Rd5 34.Bc4 Rd7 35.Bb5

2. + / = (0.35): 18...Bxd4 19.exd4 Qb4 20.Qf2 Rac8 21.Rd1 Qa3 22.Nb1 Qd6 23.Qh4 Rc7 24.Rf1 Bc8 25.g4 b5 26.fxg6 fxg6 27.Rhf3 Rcf7 28.g5 Nh5 29.Rxf7 Rxf7 30.Rxf7 Kxf7 31.Bxb5 Kg7 32.Nc3 Qb4

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