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Ian Nepomniachtchi vs Ivan Salgado Lopez
18th Pamplona International (2008), Pamplona ESP, rd 7, Dec-29
French Defense: Classical. Burn Variation (C11)  ·  1-0


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Oct-05-10  jussu: Oh, 45. Qe3 is cool; much nicer and harder to find than the banal 45. Qxc8.
Oct-05-10  ttigue: 45. Qe3 Qxe2+ 46. Qxe2...and the white Q is pulled off the mating diagonal. Of course, this only delays the inevitable. Better is Qxc8+ which I didn't see so no points for me.
Oct-05-10  turbo231: <whiteshark: Easier than y'days one.>

Yes I missed yesterday's, Nd2 got me, but got today's puzzle. But it took a good 5 minutes to figure it out. The continuation is neat.

Oct-05-10  turbo231: <Patriot:But for practice, it can be a different matter. For example, I now go to two different chess tactics websites to practice different areas of my thought process. One forces me to make quick decisions and therefore look for best moves in a short time span, while the other allows me to analyze before making any moves in more complex positions and helps more in the area of board vision and decision making.>

Care to share those two chess tactics websites?

Oct-05-10  Formula7: 45.Qxc8+ and now either Kb6 46.Qb8# or Kxc8 46.Re8+ Kb7 47.Rb8#. Time to check.
Oct-05-10  Patriot: <turbo231> <Care to share those two chess tactics websites?>

No problem. "Chess Tactics Server" ( for practicing pattern recognition where you are expected to solve in about 3 seconds, and "Chess Tempo" ( which gives a lot more time to solve before it detracts from rating points.

I think that making use of both of these sites covers several major areas of problem solving. Both are free. Chess Tempo is free for practicing standard tactics, but I bought a membership to mostly see where my weaknesses are tactically. It groups them based on tactical theme and success rate and allows you to only practice tactics that you wish to focus on. This is a very powerful feature to help you improve.

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  kevin86: Amazing twin Arabian Mates:

If the right one won't get you- 45♕xc8+ ♔xc8 46 ♖e8+ ♔d7 47 ♖d8#

then the left one will...46...♔b7 47 ♖b8#

Oct-05-10  MiCrooks: Any win suffices but it is a puzzle so Qxc8+ with a quick mate is clearly better than Qe3 where Black would also resign but can delay things with QxR. Not only that but Black has other ways of delaying things as well like moving the Bishop off c8 perhaps after QxR.

Pattern recognition is a key to better chess play. This is a key mating pattern that every player should be familiar with. I find the power of the R+N combo quite elegant and a model of efficiency.

Oct-05-10  scormus: <SamAtoms1980> my sort of commentary
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  chrisowen: Nep I tuned fragrant seek one bullish checking queen. It wreak try dent spears TN im 11..bd7 fish 15.d5 cagey OE. Go graph eel cleric Lopez arch for pawn displacement. Pain bred Na5: get after shave kb8 blacking out. Dollup white has him in a lather. Tore dust 30..Bb7 toxic armada rook crossedover.
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  chrisowen: <SamAtoms> particular details third is owing for cup aired, it sho king white ammass black and a prayer after sac?
Oct-05-10  turbo231: <Patriot: <turbo231> <Care to share those two chess tactics websites?>

No problem. "Chess Tactics Server" for practicing pattern recognition where you are expected to solve in about 3 seconds, and which gives a lot more time to solve before it detracts from rating points.>


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  YouRang: I saw 45.Qxc8 Kxc8 46.Re8+ right away, realizing that 46...Kb7 loses to 47.Rb8#, but at first glance I somehow assumed that black could escape after 46...Kd7.

However, on my second go-around, I realized that the knight and pawn nicely sealed off any escape to the e-file. So 47.Rd8# is just as mateish as 47.Rb8# was.

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  Once: <YouRang: So 47.Rd8# is just as <mateish> as 47.Rb8# was.>

Now that just has to be the word of the day! I am mating, you are mated, it is mateish. I like. Lots.

Oct-05-10  scormus: <Once .... mate(ish)> Ah yes, one of those irregular verbs.

I was marginally outplayed

you got beaten

he got stuffed (I mean mated)

Oct-05-10  rapidcitychess: <dzechiel> Makes me feel so much better when I missed Monday! And I got this one?

Must be some people's blind spot. Me, it pops up so much on that I can't not (Bad grammer!) know it.

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  perfidious: <Patriot> Thanks for posting those websites!

For all my experience, there are some patterns which come very easily and others which don't. This problem is a case in point: 45.Qe3 was the first move which came to mind, and I didn't consider the concluding combination.

Oct-05-10  twin phoenix: i dared not make the move because the position was rather mateish...
Oct-05-10  wals: Of course, way to go, but sob, I didn't. It's always so clear after I see the solution.

Rybka 4 x 64 analysis.

Black. depth 21 : 6 min :
A little better,
1. (1.26): 31...Qf4 32.Qg4 Qxg4 33.Rxg4 e4 34.Ne3 Bc5 35.Rg3 Rf8 36.b4 Bd6 37.Rg6 Rf2+ 38.Kb1 Bf4 39.Re1 Bg5 40.Re6 Bxe3 41.Rxe3 Bxd5 42.Rxh6 Rxg2 43.Rxa6 c6 44.a4 bxa4 45.Rxa4 Kc7 46.Ra8 Kd6

2. (1.26): 31...Qh4 32.Qg4 Qxg4 33.Rxg4 e4 34.Ne3 Bc5 35.Rg3 Rf8 36.b4 Bd6 37.Rg6 Rf2+ 38.Kb1 Bf4 39.Re1 Bg5 40.Re6 Bxe3 41.Rxe3 Bxd5 42.Rxh6 Rxg2 43.Rxa6 c6 44.a4 bxa4 45.Rxa4 Kc7 46.Ra8 Kd6

Black. depth 18 : 4 min :
Only move,
1. (1.79): 33...Qb5 34.Qxb5 axb5 35.Rd4 bxa3 36.Rgxe4 Rxe4 37.Rxe4 Bxd5 38.Re8+ Kb7 39.g4 b4 40.Rh8 Be4 41.Nd4 Be5 42.Re8 Bxd4

Black. depth 20 : 4 min :
(+3.16):36...Bc8. Progress is downhill.
Only move,
1. (2.53): 36...Ka7 37.Qe1 Qb6 38.Qd2

(+4.89):38...h5. Best, Kb7. +3.01.

Black: (+#4):43...Qf1. Best, Qf5, +4.12.

A sorry game for Black.

Oct-05-10  SetNoEscapeOn: This is one of those where the tactical rule "always look at all checks and captures" really does the trick.
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  Breunor: I was also in the Qe3 crowd....
Oct-05-10  M.Hassan: <jamboree>: Thanks so much for your comments. I also thought that 45.Qe3 "wins" while not being an outstanding move. My line goes to mate in 5 moves and did not catch why you mention in 10 moves. Anyway, i sure appreciate half a credit point you have considered that I have earned!
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  gawain: Marvelous. The rook and knight (protected by that pawn) are just enough to deliver the mate after the queen gives herself up.
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  ChessCoachClark: Continuation 45. ... Kb6 46. Qb8# gives us an example of the Hook Mate at longer range, using the Queen rather than the Rook. Elegant and beautiful.

Continuation 45. ... Kxc8 46. Re8+ Kd7 47. Rd8# gives us a classical Hook Mate.

Continuation 45. ... Kxc8 46. Re8+ Kb7 47. Rb8# gives us a classical Hook Mate.

Jun-22-16  Alexandro: In 43th move Lopez made a mistake he should've noved queen c8 and he wouldn't lose!
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