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Nov-04-09
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| Ulhumbrus: <Bob726: 12.Nxd7 for black is by far the main move, none of the top super grandmasters have ever played Qxd7 and there must be a reason for that, unless Ulhumbrus is a secret GM we don't know about.> I can give you one reason: Bacrot's innovation 17 f4! has not been played before this game. If this move ends up convincing the Grandmasters that Black loses after White's thirteenth move 13 Bd6, they may start trying earlier alternatives such as the move 12...Qxd7 instead of 12...Nxd7. |
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| Nov-07-09 |
| Bob726: f4 is nothing really, just a one-shot, if you anaylaze it with any top computer it is at best white struggling for equality. |
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Nov-10-09
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| Eyal: <12...Nxd7/Qxd7> From Larry Christiansen commentary at ICC on Anand vs Leko, 2009: <Black practically has to play Nxd7, because 12...Qxd7 13.e5 Nd5 14.Ne4 is extreeeeemely unpleasant - those dark squares c5 and d6 are very weak and ripe for exploitation>. |
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| Nov-10-09 |
| 310metaltrader: is this game for real? |
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Jan-27-10
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| RandomVisitor: After 19.Qe2, Eyal's earlier comment about 23...Rg7 holding for Black seems justified:
click for larger view [+0.25] d=19 19...Bxd6 20.exd6+ Kf8 21.fxg5 hxg5 22.Be6 Rh7 23.Qc2 <Rg7> 24.Qf5 Nf6 25.Qxf6 Qxf6 26.Rxf6 Rd8 27.Raf1 Rxd6 28.Rxf7+ Rxf7 29.Rxf7+ Ke8 30.Rxb7 Rxe6 31.axb5 axb5 32.Rxb5 Re5 33.Kf2 Kd7 34.Rb6 Rf5+ |
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| Jan-27-10 |
| emunk96: why not 16 ... dxNc3 |
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Jan-27-10
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| tpstar: <rogge> 1/13/10: "I like a good home prep." Great game by Bacrot. |
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| Jan-27-10 |
| eaglewing: I don't see the White answers to the defenses:
16. e5 Nxe5 (it is bad due to theory, I suppose, but why?) and 25. Rf1 Ne5 (I suppose, it is too late to be saved, but again why?). |
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Jan-27-10
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| Jimfromprovidence: <eaglewing> <25. Rf1 Ne5 (I suppose, it is too late to be saved, but again why?)> There is no answer to 26 Rxf7 (seeing Qh7#).
click for larger viewIf 26...Nxf7, then 27 Qg6+ begins a mate.
click for larger viewIf 26...Be4, then 27 Rc7 or Rd7 wins. |
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Jan-27-10
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| RandomVisitor: After 18.bxc3, other choices for black:
click for larger view Rybka 3:
<[+0.22] d=17 18...Nf8> 19.Bh5 Ng6 20.f5 Nxe5 21.Re1 Qd7 22.f6 Bxf6 23.Bxe5 Qxd1 24.Raxd1 Bxe5 25.Rxe5+ Kf8 26.Rd7 Rb8 27.axb5 axb5 28.Rxc5 Be4 29.Rxf7+ Kg8 30.Re7 Bd3 31.Bf3 Rh7 32.Re6 Rf8 33.h3 Rb8 [+0.62] d=17 18...gxf4 19.e6 Nf6 20.Bh5 Nxh5 21.Qxh5 Qxd6 22.Qxf7+ Kd8 23.Qxg7 Re8 24.Qxb7 Rb8 25.Qh7 Re7 26.Rad1 Rxh7 27.Rxd6+ Ke8 28.Rxa6 b4 29.Rc6 b3 30.Rxc5 |
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Jan-27-10
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| tatarch: <Jimfromprovidence> <If 25. Rf1 Ne5 26.Rxf7 Nxf7, then 27 Qg6+ begins a mate.> I'm a little slow today. What is the mate continuation? |
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Jan-27-10
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| Jimfromprovidence: <tatarch> <I'm a little slow today. What is the mate continuation?> After 25. Rf1 Ne5 26.Rxf7 Nxf7 27 Qg6+, one way white mates is the following: 27...Kh8 28 Qh5+ Kg7 29 Qxf7+ Kh8 30 Bf5 (seeing Qh7#) Qd7 31 Qxd7 Kg8 32 Qh7+ Kf8 33 Be6 (seeing Qf7#) Ke6 34 Qg8#. 
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Jan-27-10
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| Brandon plays: Why not 23. Rg7 for black? |
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| Jan-27-10 |
| moi: <Brandon plays> if 23...Rg7, 24 Qf5 and in view of the menace Bxf7 (menacing Be8+ Qf8 mate or after ...Qxd6, Bd5+ Bxb7 followed by rook checks wining the queen), black has to give the knight back leaving white with the mighty d pawn and the most active bishop (  I guess, or is it decisive?). |
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Jan-27-10
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| tatarch: <Jimfromprovidence> <After 25. Rf1 Ne5 26.Rxf7 Nxf7 27 Qg6+, one way white mates is the following: 27...Kh8 28 Qh5+ Kg7 29 Qxf7+ Kh8 30 Bf5 (seeing Qh7#) Qd7...> Why not 30...Qg8 here to defend h7 and block more queen checks? E.g. 31.Qf6+ Qg7, and if 31.Qh5+ Kg7 32.Qg6+ Kf8 33.Qf6+ Qf7 etc. White still looks like he can win by taking the b7 bishop and advancing the d pawn, I just don't see a quick mating pattern. Unrelated question -- how do you insert the image of the board in a comment? |
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Jan-27-10
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| tatarch: <Brandon plays>
Re: 23...Rg7, check out some of the earlier comments from a few months ago |
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Jan-27-10
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| Eyal: <tatarch> 30...Qg8 31.Qh5+ Kg7 32.Qxg5+! (rather than Qg6+?) and after Kf8/f7 there's mate on e7. For how to insert diagrams, see FEN Help Page |
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Jan-27-10
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| Jimfromprovidence: <tatarch> <Unrelated question -- how do you insert the image of the board in a comment?> In addition to the FEN help link <Eyal> provided, you can also employ the CG game board to create diagrams. You can manipulate the position you want to display on the game board, then right-click anywhere on the board and copy the position to the kibitz box. It displays as a FEN string. Once you hit the Kibitz! button, the position appears. |
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Jan-27-10
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| Shams: <You can manipulate the position you want to display on the game board, then right-click anywhere on the board and copy the position to the kibitz box. It displays as a FEN string.> Using which viewer, Jim? |
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Jan-27-10
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| tatarch: <Jimfromprovidence> <Eyal> Thanks guys |
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Jan-27-10
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| tatarch: And if 25. Rf1 Ne5 26.Rxf7 Nxf7 27.Qg6+ Kh8 28.Qh5+ Kg7 29.Qxf7+ Kh6, then 30.Bf5 Qg8 31.Qf6+ Kh5 32.g4+ Kh4 33.Qh6#
click for larger viewJust testing it out .... cool |
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Jan-27-10
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| Jimfromprovidence: <Shams> <Using which viewer, Jim?> It is a Java viewer.
See link below:
Chess Viewer Deluxe Quickstart |
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Jan-27-10
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| Shams: <Jim> hmm, that's the one I use but it only right-click copies PGN or "EPD" (whatever that is, it looks just like PGN.) Mac issue? |
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Jan-27-10
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| Jimfromprovidence: <Shams> <Mac issue?> Not my area of knowledge.
I get a menu with 6 choices when I right-click on the board. The first one-"Copy Position (EPD)" enables me to copy positions to the Kibitz box. |
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Jan-28-10
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| kevin86: Though black is ahead in material,the second queen discourages him highly. |
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