Mar-14-11
 | | HeMateMe: white had three pawns for the exchange. It seems as though he should have won this game. |
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| Mar-14-11 | | Hovik2009: count again!
rook and three pawns for two minor pieces, so Carlsen was lucky to get away from this. |
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Mar-14-11
| | HeMateMe: No, Carlsen was winning, but couldn't get his material organized. |
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| Mar-14-11 | | haydn20: On move 21 after the bloodletting: with R and 7 well-connected P's vs. N & B plus 4 P's, two of which are rancid, I'd rather be White. Fritz gives White +1.25. |
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| Mar-14-11 | | Sleeping kitten: After move 20, Carlsen just looks better with 3 pawns and a rook for two minor pieces. I'm wondering whether he missed something or whether I'm overestimating White's advantage. |
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| Mar-14-11 | | Hovik2009: run your Fritz again on move 35, if black had played 35...Nd1! he could have been winning, and again instead of 41...Bc4?, he would have played 41...Bd5, he could fare much better than draw which Carlsen took hastily after exchanging on c4. In my opinion Carlsen was never winning after fancy but dubious 18.Nxf7?!, but before that I agree he had much better position but not obviously winning. I know it is really hard to convince you Carlsen fans, but I tried anyway! |
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| Mar-14-11 | | haydn20: 26 Be5 may be a tactical error; maybe 26 Rc5 keeps an edge. <Hovik2009> I only ran Fritz thru move 20, and was not commenting on anything after that. |
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| Mar-14-11 | | haydn20: 35...Nd1; 36 Re5 Kf6; 37 Raa5 h6; 38 h4 Rc3; 39 hxg5 hxg5; 40 Rxg5 Rxa3 and Black has chances. 41...Bd5; 42 Rd4 e6; 43 Rd2 Rc1+; 44 Kf2 Nd1+; 45 Kg2 and Black is better, but winning? From 18-25, the position is unclear until somebody finds a convincing line. |
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| Mar-14-11 | | Hovik2009: <haydn20>
now that I have looked over the game again, I agree with you that 26.Be5 wasn't that strong of a move resulting in exchange of the last white minor piece, I guess White was worried about retreat of the knight to e8 hitting the rook and white's undefendable d-pawn twice in the mean time, but as you mentioned 26.Rc5 seems to refute that powerful knight move. |
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Mar-14-11
 | | Penguincw: Endgame Statistics:
♔♖♙♙♙ vs. ♔♖♙♙♙
A side wins 41.4% of the time.
A draw occurs 58.6% of the time. |
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| Mar-14-11 | | jmboutiere: According to Rybka 3 ,after 11 moves Carlsen has + 0.69
After 14.Qb3 + 0.82
17.Qb7 + 1.18
20.Bb7 + 1.25
26.e3 + 0.90
26.Be5 - 0,03 with this move Carlsen lost, for the first time in the game his advantage. |
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| Mar-14-11 | | jmboutiere: 41.Bd5 - 0.49
41.Bc4 - 0.20, the same Rybka score in the final position.
I wouldn't say Aronian had a real advantage in this game.
And I think it was a great fight between two grand champions. |
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| Mar-14-11 | | jmboutiere: And yes I'm a Carlsen fan, but I respect Aronian too. |
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| Mar-15-11 | | jmboutiere: Magnus Carlsen`s Blog
Amber 2011, 3rd round
Two draws today. I am not going to say much about the blindfold game, cause there is not much to say. With black I arrived from the opening with a very solid position, and not much happened until the draw was agreed on move 37. The rapid game was a completely different affair. I got a very pleasant position from the opening, and soon won a pawn. I could then consolidate my extra pawn, but incredibly I went for another, more complicated continuation, which led to an imbalanced, unclear position which I had earlier though was much better for white. It was still probably better for white, but I continued to drift, even blundering two pawns in one move at some point ("quite an achievement"- Aronian). I was then lost, but contrary to my rapid game with him in 2009, where I proceed to lose a completely winning position, Aronian could not finish me of this time, and the game ended with a draw on move 37. Thus, I am still sharing the lead with Aronian with 4.5/6. Since Grischuk lost 1.5-0.5 today, he is now sharing 3rd place with Anand. Perhaps fittingly, the three highest rated players in the world are the only ones who have not lost a game yet. My opponent tomorrow is the 16 year old Giri, and I will certainly be eager to gain revenge from my dreadful (I cannot think of a nicer word :) loss against him in Wijk aan Zee earlier this year Magnus Carlsen, Monaco 14.03.2011 |
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| Mar-15-11 | | jmboutiere: http://www.arcticsec.no/index.php?b... |
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| Mar-15-11 | | jmboutiere: Consolidating the extra pawn, I suppose, means 17.Qf3. |
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| Mar-15-11 | | wordfunph: game quote..
"Which idiot spurns the possibility to get a position with a healthy extra pawn?" - GM Magnus Carlsen
http://www.chess.co.uk/twic/chessne... |
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| Mar-15-11 | | fab4: After 26.Rc5 .. 26...Nd5 still looks good for black.The Kt is still on the right circuit e3/c4 ect.. |
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