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Koneru Humpy vs Yifan Hou
Hou - Koneru Women's World Championship (2011)  ·  Catalan Opening: Closed Variation (E06)  ·  1/2-1/2
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Nov-14-11
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  haydn20: Is there at least a psychological reason they're still playing? Seems to be no chess reason.
Nov-14-11  nuwanda: 68...Rxg3 would have been a clear cut draw...
Nov-14-11
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  talisman: i don't know <haydn> but i'm gone...
Nov-14-11
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  Gypsy: <watwinc: ... The true explanation seems to be that people didn't know what we know now ...>

Right.

Nov-14-11
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  watwinc: Are we in blitz territory now? I can't imagine anyone besides RJFisher playing on here ...
Nov-14-11  Ulhumbrus: One justification for playing on is that none other than Carlsen once went wrong in a Rook and pawn ending, in the game Aronian vs Carlsen, 2006
Nov-14-11  paap: just won myself $40 with chessbookie :)
Nov-14-11
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  chessgames.com: Thanks to everybody for participating in today's live chess broadcast. We'll be showing round #2 tomorrow morning at the same time (9:00am USA/Eastern). Hope to see you then!
Nov-14-11
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  talisman: thank you chessgames!
Nov-14-11
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  Gypsy: <watwinc: Back in the last century, I was taught that 4-3 wins while 3-2 draws. ...>

Thinking about this now, perhaps the teaching was about 5-4 and 4-3?

Nov-14-11  xanadu: Between moves 18-22 Hou was going down. The plan starting with 18...Ba6 lead to: - centralization of Whites pieces.
- difficuties to hold a bad pawn structure in the Queen side for Black.

I think Koneru played more strategically and a positional game. Hou, as always, tried to find complications, but in that process made mistakes (by about move 18). Koneru had no time troubles, as it happened to her in the past, and could improve her position. Although Hou saved the end, "psycologically" was a victory for Koneru.

Nov-14-11
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  beenthere240: Houdini's suggestion of 22. Bf3 (protecting the e pawn) maintains the tension and keeps Hou in time pressure. Liquidating the center with Nxd5 etc. took black off the hook.
Nov-14-11  xanadu: To choose the Catalan, avoiding Nimzo Indian (and of course, never play e4, which will be responsed with a Sicilian), was also a clever decition. With Black, Koneru should play Petroff (assuming Hou is going to play e4...), waiting patiently her opportunity. But I think Koneru will not follow that plan: she will play the Ruy, which gives better chances to Hou, but she canŽt avoid it! WeŽll see...
Nov-14-11
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  HeMateMe: Humpy played on just a little too long, trying to drag a full point out of nothing, perhaps trying to send a message?
Nov-14-11  xanadu: HeMateMe: yes, I thought that during the game. And agreed!
Nov-14-11
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  twinlark: <perhaps trying to send a message?>

Looks like it. Seems like she's considering that Koneru considers Hou to be prey likely to make a mistake. Hou has been out of form for a long time.

Nov-14-11
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  shakespeare: taking with the pawn was maybe a little bit better - but in any case white emerges with a pawn ahead and a Philidor position - so draw in both cases
Nov-14-11
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  talisman: why is she called "Humpy"?
Nov-14-11
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  tamar: <Note that this girl's first name is Humpy, her surname is Koneru. In her home state of Andhra Pradesh, and in many parts of South India the surname is written first (in Austria too, by the way).

Her father Koneru Ashok, a chess player himself, derived the name from the word "Champion", with a vision that one day she would become the World Chess Champion. Subsequently, he has changed it to Humpy, to sound it as a Russian name.> from a 2002 chessbase article http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail...

Nov-14-11  I play the Fred: <and in many parts of South India the surname is written first (in Austria too, by the way>

"I too remember the name Steinitz Wilhelm" - David Bronstein, <200 Open Games>.

Nov-14-11
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  haydn20: I tried to find something after 26. Qe4, but came to nothing. Someone suggested earlier 22. Bf3, practically forcing Bb7 with advantage. Maybe worth a look? P.S. add Hungary as in "Bartok Bela" to surnames first.
Nov-14-11
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  twinlark: China also.
Nov-15-11
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  HeMateMe: How's the internet access is China, theses days? I know they have filter software that blocks a lot of topics, but for pure vanilla stuff, like this chess match, can most people in urban areas log on to watch/get the results?
Dec-14-11  Penguincw: One pawn not enough to win.
Aug-08-14
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  perfidious: <watwinc: Ah yes, Botvinnik won a couple of 4v3 R+P before the need for h4/h5 was discovered ...>

There was also the well-known antecedent Duras vs Capablanca, 1913.

<Gypsy....(unopposed) f+h pawns also are a theoretical draw....>

In most positions, if the defender exercises due care.

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