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Feb-14-12 | | notyetagm: Bartel vs Caruana Aeroflot Open 2012 22 Bd2-g5! 1-0 threatens INTERFERENCE 23 Bg5-e7+! |
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Feb-14-12 | | APatzer: Of late, I have seen too many slav / semi slav losses. |
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Feb-14-12 | | cormier: by transposition: Anand vs Aronian, 2009 |
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Feb-14-12 | | cormier: with 6...Bxf3 |
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Feb-14-12 | | hedgeh0g: Despite the uncharacteristically poor play by Caruana, I think White played a very strong game. A rare example where the <threat> of an interference is decisive. 22.Bg5! is indeed a <Sexy Last Move>. |
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Feb-15-12 | | syracrophy: And 22...♖e8 is not much better, since it loses to the simple 23.♖xe8+ ♔xe8 24.♖e1+ ♔f8 <24...Kd7 25.Qf5# is a cute mate> and the same idea revealed before: 25.♖e7! is a brilliant interference move which wins the ♕ after the ▢ 25...♕xe7 26.♗xe7+ ♔xe7 27.♕xf7+ ♔d8 28.♕xg7 and white wins easily |
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Feb-15-12 | | Nostrils: 14 ... kf8 ?
Everything follows from that. |
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Feb-16-12
 | | tamar: Question is, how could Black hang on at move 18?
if 18...Rd8 19 Ng3 Rhd5 20 Bb1!  click for larger viewBlack has a nice optical attack on d4, but cannot take the pawn right now because of 20...Rxd4 21 Bxa5 with a White attack on b6. So what should Black play here? Worth investigating further. |
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Feb-16-12 | | kia0708: Bartel outplayed Caruana the same way AC Milan trashed yesterday <Arsenal London> 4:0 |
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Apr-03-12 | | sevenseaman: Caruana's moves starting from 16...exd4 until the end have little to recommend.
He seems to be playing into the Pole's hands every time. I cannot make out what his h R came up for. By playing 20...Nxa4 he completely ignores the possibility of Bxg6. Perhaps he never saw it. Bartel was mesmerising! |
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Apr-17-12
 | | tarek1: 7.Qc7 ? I thought Qb6 was automatic in this kind of position |
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Jan-13-14
 | | FSR: 14...Kf8 is a weird-looking move. If my opponent played it in an online game, I'd assume it must have been a mouse-slip in place of the intended 14...0-0. |
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Jul-30-14 | | Rob Morrison: I agree about 14...Kf8. It looks a lot more sensible to just castle and let go of the temptation of keeping the rook on the h-file where it can dream of an attack on the white king but really just butts up against h3. |
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Jun-18-24 | | vajeer: d5 wins too, although Bg5 is stronger |
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Jun-18-24 | | FM David H. Levin: I came up with 22. Ra1, which might not be as elegant or efficient as the text but seems to work. For example, 22. Ra1 Nxb2 23. Bxa5 Qd7 24. Bb4! Rxa1 25. Rxa1, with the dual threats of 26. Ra8+ or 26. Bxd6+. No better for Black seems 22...b5 23. b3 Nb6 24. Bxa5 or 22...Nb6 23. Bxa5. After 22. Ra1, the silicon analyst gives 22...Kg8 23. Bc2 and considers Black to be busted, having to lose a queenside pawn shortly and probably a second one not long after that. |
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Jun-18-24 | | mel gibson: I failed a Tuesday.
The solution is not trivial.
Stockfish 16.1 says:
22. Bg5
(22. Bg5 (1.Bg5 Re8 2.Rxe8+ Kxe8 3.Re1+ Kf8 4.Be7+ Qxe7 5.Rxe7 Kxe7 6.Qxf7+ Kd8 7.Qxb7 Rf8 8.Qxc6 Rf6 9.Qa8+ Kc7
10.Qxa5+ Nb6 11.Qa7+ Kc8 12.Qxg7 Rf8 13.Bf5+ Kd8 14.g4 Re8 ) +11.16/41 713) score for White +11.16 depth 41. |
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Jun-18-24
 | | Check It Out: I did not get this one. I knew there was an interference motif, so looked at 22. Re7, 22.d5, 22.Bxa4, 22.Rxc6; the last move I considered was 22.Bg5 go figure, but I wasn't sure and gave up. |
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Jun-18-24
 | | scormus: I looked at the same possibilities as <Check It Out> and 22 Re6 as well, but missed Bg5! Went for d5?! which is sort of winning but leaves W with more work to finish the job. Re6 would have been a better choice. Should have made a better effort |
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Jun-18-24 | | newzild: I also missed <22.Bg5>, looking at the same candidate moves as <scormus> and <Check It Out>. Tough Tuesday! |
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Jun-18-24 | | TheaN: CG, not Tuesday level! Don't blindly look at the single move and +7, there are a lot of candidates and potential Black replies to consider. It is also a setup move rather than execution which is generally post-Wednesday. I went with <22.Ra1 +-> which works fine as the defenders of a5 are overloaded. If b5 b3, and after 22....Nxb2 23.Bxa5 +-. Black needs to play 22....Kg8 moving away from danger but after 23.Bc2 +- Black his back rank still allows White to take on a5. |
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Jun-18-24 | | mel gibson: Some members chose 22. Ra1
Let's try it.
Stockfish 16.1 says it's not as strong:
22. Ra1
(22. Ra1 Kg8 (1. ... Kg8 2.Be4 Nxb2 3.Qb3 Rh5 4.Qxb2 Bf8 5.Qc2 Qd8 6.Be3 Qe7 7.g3 Qd7 8.h4 Be7 9.Qe2 Rb5 10.d5 Rxd5
11.Bxd5 Qxd5 12.Rad1 Qf5 13.g4 Qe4 14.Rd4 Qe6) -4.44/43 437) Score for Black -4.44 depth 43 |
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Jun-18-24 | | saturn2: yeah found 22 Bg5 after some thinking. The idea is to block the quen away from f7. Black has ...Re8 but white exchanges rooks and gets the e file again so he can finally play the desired Be7. |
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Jun-18-24
 | | chrisowen: I grob c its hut its wave fend like q up Bg5 its ha its ie arrived its odd its aoe jet Bg5 its and |
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Jun-18-24
 | | benveniste: I got to ♗g5 eventually, but only becaue it was presented as a puzzle. OTB I would have played d5. |
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Jun-19-24 | | tibone: After 22. b3 Nb6 23. Be4 White would be threatening Bxc6 |
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