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Mateusz Bartel vs Fabiano Caruana
Dortmund Sparkassen (2012), Dortmund GER, rd 9, Jul-22
Gruenfeld Defense: Exchange. Modern Exchange Variation (D85)  ·  0-1

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Jul-22-12  fisayo123: What an incredibly one-sided game.
Jul-22-12  BUNA: <fisayo123: What an incredibly one-sided game.>

Strange game indeed.
The moves up to 17... Rd8 have been played before. And 18. Bb5 threatening Be7 is Houdinis 3rd/4th choice, because the ensuing complications are favourable for black. ??

Jul-22-12  mike1: yes, strange indeed. But white is simply better after 15.e5; a move nearly everybody would choose.
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  perfidious: < mike1: ....white is simply better after 15.e5; a move nearly everybody would choose.>

If your assertion is correct, then why was 15.e5 not played in any of three prior games in this DB, all games in which strong players were White?

Jul-22-12  Eyal: <Strange game indeed. The moves up to 17... Rd8 have been played before>

The fact that they have been played before doesn't mean they are all correct until that point (was it in top-level games?). According to Houdini 15.Rc7 is already dubious and 16.Ng5 is definitely a mistake (better are Rfc1 or Bb4 followed by Rfc1), after which White is inferior - and Caruana apparently thinks so as well (http://www.sparkassen-chess-meeting...). White can indeed do better than 18.Bb5 with 18.Be7 Re8 19.Bb5 Nc6! 20.Bxc6 Bxc6 21.Nxf7(!), but the best he can hope for by this stage, after 21...Ra/ec8, is to fight for a draw.

Jul-22-12  bubuli55: I'm not sure if Bartel is to be commended for mixing it up with Caruana. This game is something he could have done home prep. But he seemed short of moves to finish it up and he knows Caruana is 2700 in combo/tactics.

Audacious?

Jul-22-12  Eyal: <The moves up to 17... Rd8 have been played before>

Checking the chessbase db out of curiosity, I've found a game from the 80s between two 2300 players (Belotti-Sokolowsky) where White actually managed to win - it went 18.Rfc1 e5? 19.Be7 Re8 20.Bb5 etc.; the right play for Black in such a case is pointed out by Caruana in the round report to which I gave the link earlier - 18...Nc6! 19.R1xc6 Bxc6 20.Rxc6 Rac8! 21.Rxc8 [21.Rc3 a5] 21...Rxc8 and with the rook penetrating to c1 or c2 and the weakness of White's pawns Black should be winning. Funnily enough, there are two correspondence games which this game followed up to move 22 (well, starting from 18...a6 the line is rather forcing) - one of them was won by Black and the other ended in a draw, the Black player's technique not being good enough to convert the advantage.

Jul-23-12  BUNA: Just to clarify these sentences of mine <Strange game indeed. The moves up to 17... Rd8 have been played before ...>.

I simply don't unterstand Bartels game preparation here. He employs a (forced) line where he is clearly worse. In the "tournament of his life" (so far) against a top ten player.

Maybe his just forgot his preparation?

Jul-23-12  JoergWalter: <BUNA: Maybe his just forgot his preparation? >

You are assuming that he

a. had prepared
b. had not overlooked / misjudged something

As his tournament result shows he had not done both of the above.

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