chessgames.com
Members · Prefs · Laboratory · Collections · Openings · Endgames · Sacrifices · History · Search Kibitzing · Kibitzer's Café · Chessforums · Tournament Index · Players · Kibitzing

(If you register a free account you won't see all these ads!)
Hikaru Nakamura vs Vladimir Kramnik
"Olympic Mettle" (game of the day Sep-08-2012)
Chess Olympiad (2012), Istanbul TUR, rd 9, Sep-06
King's Indian Attack: Symmetrical Defense (A05)  ·  1-0
ANALYSIS [x]

FEN COPIED

explore this opening
find similar games 49 more Nakamura/Kramnik games
PGN: download | view | print Help: general | java-troubleshooting

TIP: Premium members can see a list of all games that they have seen recently at their Game History Page.

PGN Viewer:  What is this?
For help with this chess viewer, please see the Olga Chess Viewer Quickstart Guide.
PREMIUM MEMBERS CAN REQUEST COMPUTER ANALYSIS [more info]

Kibitzer's Corner
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 5 OF 5 ·  Later Kibitzing>
Sep-12-12  sushijunkie: I'm too lazy (great attribute for a chess "player"!) to read all of the posts: Has anyone ever underpromoted simply and purely for tempo like this before? I'm too lazy to research, too. Thankfully, some of you folks are OCD and can leave no question unanswered.
Sep-12-12  Jacob Arnold: <Thankfully, some of you folks are OCD and can leave no question unanswered.> ROFL
But to answer the question, I'm sure of it. If the tempo you gain from this under promotion gives you a winning position, then why not do it?
Sep-13-12  sushijunkie: <<Jacob Arnold>:But to answer the question, I'm sure of it. If the tempo you gain from this under promotion gives you a winning position, then why not do it?>

Thanks for answering, but I didn't say "winning position"; we've all seen these either in games or puzzles. Naka underpromoted here to a Knight for the sole reason that it gave check where no other piece could, therefore keeping tempo and maintaining the attack. I guess I'm just not used to seeing an underpromotion to a Knight when the King has no shield. Sorry if I wasn't clearer.

C'mon, kibs, surely someone knows...

I have never seen this before. I was just wondering if anyone has.

Sep-13-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: To answer my own question, yes you can play out bishop and knight against lone king against Crafty: http://www.chessvideos.tv/endgame-t... The site also has an instructional video on how to win that ending, and lets you play out many other endings against Crafty (for example, K+Q v. K+R). Great stuff!

btw, it turns out I have mad skillz with B+N. I mated in 31 from the bad starting position it gives you. (In the worst-case scenario - well, apart from the positions where the defender has an immediate draw - B+N+K v. K can take 33 moves to win. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bishop... )

Sep-14-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  Naniwazu: Amazing.. an underpromotion by Nakamura! Never seen one of those in an actual grandmaster game.
Sep-14-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  pawn to QB4: Karpov vs Timman, 1986 was another example we looked at a few months back, but they are very rare.
Sep-14-12  micartouse: This game is awesome, I hope it bubbles up higher on his top 10 games list; right now his number 1 is a game against Krasenkow.

The endgame makes me think of all those games he played against Rybka, tormenting it with minor pieces. That skill actually came in handy here - he was in his element.

Sep-14-12  sushijunkie: <<pawn to QB4>: Karpov vs Timman, 1986 was another example we looked at a few months back, but they are very rare.>

That answers my question. I like Naka's game better, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised this has been done before (a naked or nearly naked King being checked by an underpromoted Knight to preserve tempo).

Sep-16-12  Eduardo Bermudez: Kramnik lost his unbeaten record of 64 games in Olympics, Congrats for Naka !!
Sep-16-12  Olavi: Szabo vs Ivkov, 1964
Sep-16-12  Eduardo Bermudez: Most longer series of chess games unbeaten at Chess Olympiads

1) Tigran Petrosian: 94
2) Boris Spassky: 86
3) Vasily Ivanchuk: 84
4) Paul Keres: 76
5) Vladimir Kramnik: 64
6) Mikhail Tal: 62
7) Borislav Ivkov: 51
8) Julio Bolbochán: 50
9) Svetosar Gligoric: 46
10) Aleksandar Matanovic: 46

Sep-17-12  Abulherar: 62.c8=N is AWESOME!!!
Sep-17-12  eric the Baptist: what a game! must be one the most complicated, high-level games of the year.
Sep-17-12  RookFile: Great game.
Apr-12-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  SuperPatzer77:


click for larger view

Instead of Kramnik's 78th move - 78...Kh2, 78...Ba7, 79. Ng5+! Kh2, 80. Bg4! Bb6, 81. Ne4 Bd8, 82. Nd4 Bb6, 83. Nf3+ Kh1 - See diagram below:


click for larger view

Now Black has defense against 84. Nf2# or Ng3# but White finds a winning move - 84. Bh3! (Black has no defense against 85. Bg2#)

SuperPatzer77

May-14-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  samsloan: Why did Kramnik sacrifice the exchange with 27. ... Rxc5 ? The game seems dead drawn without that but Kramnik has a high percentage of draws.
Nov-01-13  avidfan:


click for larger view

From the final position, a possible ending might be: 80...Bc7 or Bd8 81.Nxf3+

(80...f2 81.Nf3+ Kh1 82.Ng3#)
(80...Kh1 81.Nxf3 and now Black loses no matter what he does ---- 81...Bf2 82.Nxf2#

81...Bc7 82.Nf2#)

All White's pieces are on white squares.


click for larger view

81... Kh1 82.Nf2#
The White bishop is now redundant in the final mating position, having prevented the Black king from escaping through h3..

Dec-31-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  Jambow: Forgot how great this game was, a creative masterpiece.
Jan-08-14  MarkFinan: What a game! It's just brilliant! I really didn't see that knight promotion coming, in fact I just lost track and had to stop the game more times than I've ever stopped any other game here. I like Nakamuras chess because he always seems to play for the win, or at least with white anyway.
May-12-15  ToTheDeath: Colossal struggle between two heavyweights. The initiative kept changing hands and the result seemed in doubt until Nakamura underpromoted to a knight with CHECK. Outstanding effort.
Jul-19-15  SpiritedReposte: Any under-promotion collection would be incomplete without this gem.
Sep-09-16
Premium Chessgames Member
  SirRuthless: Just as fresh as the day it was played.
Feb-12-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  cormier:


click for larger view

Analysis by Houdini 4

30...Qxc3 31.Rad1
= / + (-0.44) Depth: 25

...


click for larger view

Analysis by Houdini 4

31...Bg7 32.Ng4
⩱ (-0.42) Depth: 25

...


click for larger view

Analysis by Houdini 4

32...h5 33.Rc1 Qd4 34.Nf6+ Bxf6 35.exf6
= (-0.16) Depth: 26

...


click for larger view

Analysis by Houdini 4

35...Nc4 36.Qf3 Rd6 37.Red1 Qb6 38.Rb1 Qc5 39.Qc3 Rb6 40.Qc1 b4 41.Qh6 Qf8 42.Qf4 Bb5 43.Qc7 a5 44.Rbc1 Rc6 45.Qe7 Rc8 = (-0.22) Depth: 23/55 00:00:49 28939kN
35...Nc4 36.Qf3
= (-0.15 --) Depth: 24

35...Qxf6 36.Rc7 Nc4 37.Rxa7 Bc8 38.Rd1 Kg7 39.Qe1 Nb2 40.Rd2 Rd7 41.Rxd7 Bxd7 42.Qa1 Nc4 43.Qxf6+ Kxf6 44.Rd1 Ke5 45.f4+ Kd6 46.Kf2 b4 47.Bf1 Ba4 48.Rc1 Kc5 49.Be2 Be8 = (-0.21) Depth: 26

Feb-12-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  cormier:


click for larger view

Analysis by Houdini 4

23...Nc4 24.Bc1
= / + (-0.47 --) Depth: 10

23...Bg7 24.Bb4 Nc4 25.Nd2 Nb2 26.Qf3 Nd3 27.Re3 Nxb4 28.cxb4 Qe7 = / + (-0.48) Depth: 10

23...Qc6 24.Bc1 Bxc1 25.Qxc1 Rd7 26.Re3 Qa4 27.Nd2 Rdc7 28.Qb2 Nc4 29.Nxc4 Bxc4 30.Rf3 Kg7 = / + (-0.35) Depth: 12

23...Qd7 24.Bc1 Bf8 25.Re3 Rc6 26.Rf3 Rdc8 27.Bg5 b5 28.a3 Nc4 29.Qc1 Qc7 30.Bf1 Bb7 31.Nd2 h6 32.Bf6 Nxd2 33.Qxd2 Rxc3 34.Rxc3 Qxc3 35.Qxc3 Rxc3 36.Bxb5 Rxa3 37.Rxa3 Bxa3 = / + (-0.38) Depth: 21

23...Rd7 24.Bc1 Bf8 25.a4 Qd8 26.h4 Rdc7 27.Bg5 Qd7 28.Re3 h6 29.Bf6 h5 30.Bg5 Bb4 31.Bf6 Rc6 32.Rf3 Be7 33.Bxe7 Qxe7 34.Rf6 Nc4 35.Ra2 Bb7 36.Rc2 Qc7 37.Bf1 Qd7 = / + (-0.41) Depth: 25

Feb-14-18  tonsillolith: Kramnik has somewhat of a reputation for successfulling passed pawns to fruition, but he did not manage it in this case.
Jump to page #    (enter # from 1 to 5)
search thread:   
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 5 OF 5 ·  Later Kibitzing>
NOTE: You need to pick a username and password to post a reply. Getting your account takes less than a minute, totally anonymous, and 100% free--plus, it entitles you to features otherwise unavailable. Pick your username now and join the chessgames community!
If you already have an account, you should login now.
Please observe our posting guidelines:
  1. No obscene, racist, sexist, or profane language.
  2. No spamming, advertising, or duplicating posts.
  3. No personal attacks against other members.
  4. Nothing in violation of United States law.
  5. No posting personal information of members.
Blow the Whistle See something that violates our rules? Blow the whistle and inform an administrator.


NOTE: Keep all discussion on the topic of this page. This forum is for this specific game and nothing else. If you want to discuss chess in general, or this site, you might try the Kibitzer's Café.
Messages posted by Chessgames members do not necessarily represent the views of Chessgames.com, its employees, or sponsors.
Spot an error? Please submit a correction slip and help us eliminate database mistakes!
This game is type: CLASSICAL (Disagree? Please submit a correction slip.)

Featured in the Following Game Collections [what is this?]
Enjoyable Endgames
by Bubo bubo
A knight to remember...underpromotion
from Dble Fio either color, Reti/Zukertort & GB Games by fredthebear
catfishcore's favorite games
by catfishcore
Brilliant attacks
by Jaredfchess
DrChopper's good games 2
by DrChopper
September 8: Olympic Mettle
from Game of the Day 2012 by Phony Benoni
Great end game!
from MJCB likes those games by MJCB
KIA Symmetrical (A05) 1-0 A kNight to remember...underpromotion
from 2008+ Fredthebear knows of Barry Soetoro by fredthebear
More favorite games
by Fluxcapacitor
willy tanner greatest hits
by alcoholkhine
Jigsaw42's favorite games
by Jigsaw42
Kartagener's favorite games
by Kartagener
2012#3
from Jaredfchess' favorite games by Jaredfchess
Game collection: Kia
by Mirfak
Best of Olympiad 2012
from nikkiurbz's favorite games by nikkiurbz
62.c8=N+
from Promotion: Knight (after 2000) by Penguincw
Nakamura
by akatombo
LuisHarrouch's immortal games 2
by LuisHarrouch
Gottschalk's favorite games
by Gottschalk


home | about | login | logout | F.A.Q. | your profile | preferences | Premium Membership | Kibitzer's Café | Biographer's Bistro | new kibitzing | chessforums | Tournament Index | Player Directory | Notable Games | World Chess Championships | Opening Explorer | Guess the Move | Game Collections | ChessBookie Game | Chessgames Challenge | Store | privacy notice | contact us
Copyright 2001-2018, Chessgames Services LLC